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WSVG still owes up to $20,000 to SC2 players - Page 2

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LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
April 13 2016 21:00 GMT
#21
On April 14 2016 05:48 JonSnow wrote:
They did pay for the flights to Maldives + a week at the hotel resort. It was a really fun trip, and the water was nice. But yeah, if they paid me that'd also be pretty cool.


that glass half full mentality
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Ja.Y.
Profile Joined February 2015
United States253 Posts
April 13 2016 21:02 GMT
#22
On April 14 2016 05:48 JonSnow wrote:
They did pay for the flights to Maldives + a week at the hotel resort. It was a really fun trip, and the water was nice. But yeah, if they paid me that'd also be pretty cool.


Maybe the round trip flight and week at the hotel resort equals $10,000

But all jokes aside, hope you do get paid
MMA will reign supreme once again // MaSa is gawd
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
April 13 2016 21:03 GMT
#23
On April 14 2016 05:48 JonSnow wrote:
They did pay for the flights to Maldives + a week at the hotel resort. It was a really fun trip, and the water was nice. But yeah, if they paid me that'd also be pretty cool.

What if all their money went into getting the best most amazing water ever? You already drank your cash prize away.
ellenpageplss
Profile Joined April 2016
6 Posts
April 13 2016 21:38 GMT
#24
guys why is sc2 dead :/

User was temp banned for this post.
Garuga
Profile Joined June 2015
49 Posts
April 13 2016 21:55 GMT
#25
There must be some legal remedy here, right? Certainly at least a breach of contract claim against the company that owes them money for their performance.
Pseudorandom
Profile Joined April 2010
United States120 Posts
April 13 2016 22:20 GMT
#26
On April 14 2016 06:03 Blargh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2016 05:48 JonSnow wrote:
They did pay for the flights to Maldives + a week at the hotel resort. It was a really fun trip, and the water was nice. But yeah, if they paid me that'd also be pretty cool.

What if all their money went into getting the best most amazing water ever? You already drank your cash prize away.


I was thinking swimming, but your idea is way better.
"This is scissors, paper is fine, paper just needs to learn how to play. Paper needs to stop complaining." - richlol
FLeK0
Profile Joined April 2010
86 Posts
April 13 2016 22:41 GMT
#27
I wouldn't be surprised if WSVG owned prize money from their 2007 tournaments too.
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
April 13 2016 22:50 GMT
#28
I'll never forget when MasterDalk advanced from his qualification round despite not checking in or playing any games. Such a shame he forfeit his spot since he didn't actually want to play.

All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
April 13 2016 22:56 GMT
#29
On April 14 2016 07:50 TechNoTrance wrote:
I'll never forget when MasterDalk advanced from his qualification round despite not checking in or playing any games. Such a shame he forfeit his spot since he didn't actually want to play.

https://twitter.com/WorldGaming/status/647061560058322945


Mouhahahahaha, that is wonderfull
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Ve5pa
Profile Joined December 2014
United Kingdom252 Posts
April 13 2016 23:13 GMT
#30
Feel bad for Jon Snow even if he did get a nice trip out of it, but I seem to remember the vast majority of the community here on TL seemed to think that this was very dodgy indeed when it was announced. It seems we were right, however it is very unfortunate for all those players who are owed money.

Would be interesting to know who the main sponsors were and main players are in regards to who set up the tournament etc.
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1803 Posts
April 14 2016 00:51 GMT
#31
On April 14 2016 05:53 amazingxkcd wrote:
this was the tourney that triforce or 8arc was involved with right? if so, those who went dun goof'ed.

TriForce wasn't involved with this one. That was where we went to DA BEECH (look up VxG).
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ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
April 14 2016 02:02 GMT
#32
How about KESPA instead of suing people over match-fixing they already been punished for, they start suing organizations for robbing the players, without whom, this scene would not exist...
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
April 14 2016 02:53 GMT
#33
amazing
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adnap2
Profile Joined December 2014
France26 Posts
April 14 2016 03:28 GMT
#34
lol
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-14 04:10:49
April 14 2016 04:07 GMT
#35
Well, their island is about to sink... pretty hard to collect debt from an address that no longer exists.

I bet they stiffed the dancers too.
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
April 14 2016 04:13 GMT
#36
On April 14 2016 11:02 ShambhalaWar wrote:
How about KESPA instead of suing people over match-fixing they already been punished for, they start suing organizations for robbing the players, without whom, this scene would not exist...


Probably because it's a hell of a lot easier to do the former, as there is only 1 guilty party, inside their own country, to protect the direct interests of their org.

Plus who would they sue in this case? WSVG? The government of Maldives? G2A? Much more difficult/expensive.

It's pretty silly to place the burden on KESPA to police the whole world of esports.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
ShambhalaWar
Profile Joined August 2013
United States930 Posts
April 14 2016 04:47 GMT
#37
On April 14 2016 13:13 TechNoTrance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2016 11:02 ShambhalaWar wrote:
How about KESPA instead of suing people over match-fixing they already been punished for, they start suing organizations for robbing the players, without whom, this scene would not exist...


Probably because it's a hell of a lot easier to do the former, as there is only 1 guilty party, inside their own country, to protect the direct interests of their org.

Plus who would they sue in this case? WSVG? The government of Maldives? G2A? Much more difficult/expensive.

It's pretty silly to place the burden on KESPA to police the whole world of esports.


It makes much more sense to me to protect the players that actually allow an organization like KESPA to exist than to file a civil suit against people that have already been punished criminally (I get they think it wasn't enough).

Rather this kind of shit goes unpunished, where a player gets completely fucked. Hyunn is another person that comes to mind. Things like this happening to players is what leads them to match-fixing, because when you want to do esports as a "career" you actually need to have a livable income.

Here is someone that plays at the top of the level of the tourney and they get nothing for winning. What's the incentive for competing in a system that doesn't honor its own rules.

The whole scene is a joke when stuff like this happens.

Lets piss away some more money on the match-fixing drama, but when it comes to players getting paid I would actually wager money that this is the last any of us hear about it.

I imagine you would sue the people or organization that organized the event. I would make the argument that suing match fixers doesn't have much to do with protecting your organization in comparison to you players getting 10k stolen from them for winning a tourney.

You lose your players you lose your scene. Take your lawyer money and give some to the players would be better spent. I remember Hyunn and I believe all the viewers had to come up with charity donations for him, Kespa didn't do shit. So really what good is Kespa for the scene?

itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9179 Posts
April 14 2016 05:37 GMT
#38
that tournament was a legitimate as a portmanteau of the words cloud and roof
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
April 14 2016 07:31 GMT
#39
On April 14 2016 13:47 ShambhalaWar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2016 13:13 TechNoTrance wrote:
On April 14 2016 11:02 ShambhalaWar wrote:
How about KESPA instead of suing people over match-fixing they already been punished for, they start suing organizations for robbing the players, without whom, this scene would not exist...


Probably because it's a hell of a lot easier to do the former, as there is only 1 guilty party, inside their own country, to protect the direct interests of their org.

Plus who would they sue in this case? WSVG? The government of Maldives? G2A? Much more difficult/expensive.

It's pretty silly to place the burden on KESPA to police the whole world of esports.


It makes much more sense to me to protect the players that actually allow an organization like KESPA to exist than to file a civil suit against people that have already been punished criminally (I get they think it wasn't enough).

Rather this kind of shit goes unpunished, where a player gets completely fucked. Hyunn is another person that comes to mind. Things like this happening to players is what leads them to match-fixing, because when you want to do esports as a "career" you actually need to have a livable income.

Here is someone that plays at the top of the level of the tourney and they get nothing for winning. What's the incentive for competing in a system that doesn't honor its own rules.

The whole scene is a joke when stuff like this happens.

Lets piss away some more money on the match-fixing drama, but when it comes to players getting paid I would actually wager money that this is the last any of us hear about it.

I imagine you would sue the people or organization that organized the event. I would make the argument that suing match fixers doesn't have much to do with protecting your organization in comparison to you players getting 10k stolen from them for winning a tourney.

You lose your players you lose your scene. Take your lawyer money and give some to the players would be better spent. I remember Hyunn and I believe all the viewers had to come up with charity donations for him, Kespa didn't do shit. So really what good is Kespa for the scene?


So please tell me, which kespa players are not being payed in this scenario?

None because kespa didn't send any players for this exact reason. If the players gets used and fucked over kespa can't do shit about it. Thats why they make sure that their players only go to legit tournaments. Therefore your whole arguement is void.

Kespa got Brains(unlike you), they avoided this whole problem before it even happened =D
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Cool C
Profile Joined November 2011
United States69 Posts
April 14 2016 08:13 GMT
#40
Pay them their money!
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