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oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
On February 24 2016 02:24 `sawyer wrote: Maybe you should try finding some silver league replays for download. I'm sure you would have a blast watching those do you absolutely have to be a dick ? | ||
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Branch.AUT
Austria853 Posts
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
On February 24 2016 00:28 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: Is this the tournament that will have the winner get roflstomped by a Korean in a showmatch afterwards? Oh lord this is the tournament where top finishers will get to play against Koreans in a showmatch. I am not going to bash this WCS system, because I think it will do more good than harm. However, this showmatch is a horrible horrible idea. It will just reinforce the fact that Koreans are still leagues ahead of the pack. I don't mind watching slightly lesser grade games being played, but I don't think it is necessary to cater to the hardcore elitist fans that want to watch the best participate also with this inane showmatch. | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On February 24 2016 03:06 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote: Oh lord this is the tournament where top finishers will get to play against Koreans in a showmatch. I am not going to bash this WCS system, because I think it will do more good than harm. However, this showmatch is a horrible horrible idea. It will just reinforce the fact that Koreans are still leagues ahead of the pack. I don't mind watching slightly lesser grade games being played, but I don't think it is necessary to cater to the hardcore elitist fans that want to watch the best participate also with this inane showmatch. What showmatch? Blizzcon? | ||
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BaneRiders
Sweden3630 Posts
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pNRG
United States333 Posts
How about the fact that most of the tournament takes place on Weds + Thurs. Now that's the ridiculous part. | ||
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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
Actually I was talking about the WCS circuit in Shanghai http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/503540-wcs-circuit-shanghai-announced This is not the same. This new WCS system is a bit confusing | ||
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Hotshot
Canada184 Posts
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ClaudeSc2
United States73 Posts
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oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
On February 24 2016 03:33 Hotshot wrote: Top 16 gets $6000.. So really their first Bo5 set is worth a nice $6000 vs going home with $0. brutal | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17624 Posts
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Koromon
United States304 Posts
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Curufinwe Feanor
Brazil91 Posts
Kelazhur already got this tourney! Just wish it had a lower bracket =/ | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On February 24 2016 02:21 oGoZenob wrote: I dont get the hate. You know that it's posible to have a good show even when not at the very best level ? i mean, i'll be super excited to see maru vs life, and i'm also super excited about drogo vs dayshi. I just love this game, not only players that wins GSLs. I mean, the more exciting game i saw this past month is a RO128 qualifier game between Bly and a mid-gm french guy named Masterbonsai This game was amazing. | ||
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Kaeque
22 Posts
I get that it's a bit rough that it is single elimination, however, it is also BO5 from the start, right? Can someone explain the massive amounts of salt to me? | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
On February 24 2016 05:06 Kaeque wrote: Why are people whining so much? I don't see the problem here. I get that it's a bit rough that it is single elimination, however, it is also BO5 from the start, right? Can someone explain the massive amounts of salt to me? Some people would prefer Koreans and the highest level of gameplay over foreigners. | ||
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stardog
556 Posts
On February 24 2016 05:06 Kaeque wrote: Why are people whining so much? I don't see the problem here. I get that it's a bit rough that it is single elimination, however, it is also BO5 from the start, right? Can someone explain the massive amounts of salt to me? If you're talking about tournament format, it's because lack of seeding causes good players face each other in very early stages. If you're talking about WCS system, I'm out. | ||
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
What happened there? VOD? :D | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On February 24 2016 01:45 alukarD wrote: Ok you're right its not a team game and I don't know how tennis works, tournaments-wise. This system sure it doesn't benefit Koreans, but it does benefit a ton more of people. Many fans will go away with system, but I believe way more fans will come to the scene having locals players, regional players or national players to support. Koreans will always have their fans all around the world, but some people, I would say most of the people, want to cheer for a national champ and see them beat the rest of the world and be happy and relate with their triumph. Also, having this type of more local heroes and more players representing more parts of the world its good for investment, its good for esports, attracting more companies and big brands on supporting this game; and this obviously is good for the scene, for the fans, for the players, having bigger tournaments and bigger prize-pools; and this results on attracting more players to the scene. Before the system, how many Koreans were making a profit? Compare that number with how many players making a profit from USA, Canada, France, Germany, etc. Ok, now, with the new system, that numbers gets more even. More people get more chances. Sad for Koreans, yeah, but very happy for the rest of the world. Its a new system! Try to enjoy it. Yes, this system benefits foreigners and is bad for Koreans, that's a fact. Yes, there are more foreigner "pro" players than Korean pros, I think that's a fact too, thus it does benefit a ton more people if you look at raw numbers. If this is a good thing, or a bad thing, is up for individual interpretation. It may or may not attract new viewers, the fact that most people want to cheer for their countrymen may or may not be real. The fact that it is better for investment may or may not be real, as we currently have no evidence going for either side. But independently of that, the potential increase in investment in foreign SC2 will be compensated by a potential decrease in investment in Korean SC2. Thus we can make the bold conclusion that this new system seems good for the foreign scene, and bad for the Korean scene. Unsurprisingly, this is what he was designed to achieve. This conclusion may or may not be a good thing, depending on each individual's desires, ideas and ideals. It's the same arguments over and over again, and it's pointless to argue over and over again (don't get me wrong, it's not directed at you specifically, but at everyone arguing about the system by now). We won't know who's right and who's wrong until... never? So yeah I was just saying that no one should make comparisons between football/soccer and SC2. Comparing real sports with eSports is something that must be done with caution, and comparing team sports with team eSports and individual eSports with individual sports is a step in the right direction. | ||
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