EPTOn February 23 2016 13:29 A_Scarecrow wrote:
shame its single elim again really hope they think about going double elim later on.
shame its single elim again really hope they think about going double elim later on.
Yes please.
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Nuclease
United States1049 Posts
Gonna be hype! | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
Sick losers bracket runs can be some of the most hype things ever. | ||
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Hoofit
United Kingdom128 Posts
It's not perfect, true (and I dont mean the lack of all korean quarter/semi finals some lament in tournamen threads). The days/times are hardly great and with decidedly harder games in the first round the lack of a group stage/losers bracket seems quite brutal. But I don't see the need to try to turn threads like this into where are the Koreans, not going to watch, this sucks etc. I can appreciate you might not like or agree with the changes but I just don't see what this accomplishes. | ||
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Ensiferum8
Canada103 Posts
Im a huge sc2 fan, but like a lot of people, i want to see the best, not the best of the scrubs. This new WCS to me is downright racist, and the person who thought about that rule should be fired. I encourage every people that doesnt like this new system to simply not watch at all the tournament. I still watch every ProLeague, GSL and SSL, and will continue to support the koreans, since they clearly put more time and effort to be good at this game, and get punish for that in the most unfair way possible. But, i understand some people might prefer seeing foreigner over quality level of play, and i respect your opinion. So i hope you will all have a wonderfull WCS and watch great games even with this lower caliber of player, im just gonna pass my turn on this WCS. GLHF  | ||
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Celepharn
Mexico60 Posts
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Prodigy311
United States4 Posts
keep those tears coming, they're icing on the cake of finally figuring out who the best is in each region! | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany15959 Posts
On February 24 2016 10:19 Prodigy311 wrote: i love that all the sc2 elitists that probably play at a diamond level that are boycotting wcs because it doesn't have koreans. i don't think i've ever seen such a senseless crusade, almost as if you actually want the game to die so you can be the only one in the world who cares about it. why should a bunch of a koreans shit on america and eu when the vast majority of americans and europeons want to know who the best american and eu players are? please feel free to miss all the incredible games. you do realize we will get to see WORLDS at blizzcon and w/e wcs events are global. get your panties unbundled and appreciate the fact that we're not watching some korean b teamers win dreamhacks and iems pushing away loads of casual viewers. honestly we were over saturated with global play and it takes away from how special it really is. there's a reason why the world cup isn't played for every 3 months. keep those tears coming, they're icing on the cake of finally figuring out who the best is in each region! If a korean b teamer is better than the other players participating in DH/IEM they fucking deserve to win it. How is it fair that a worse player has more success than a better one because of the country they were born in? edit: the bolded quote sounds incredibly racist. | ||
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Ensiferum8
Canada103 Posts
On February 24 2016 10:45 Charoisaur wrote: yep, thats the problem with these plebs. Yeah it might but fun for some to have ''local'' heroes.If a korean b teamer is better than the other players participating in DH/IEM they fucking deserve to win it. How is it fair that a worse player has more success than a better one because of the country they were born in? edit: the bolded quote sounds incredibly racist. But why should people that are better, put more efforts and time in a game be punished because they are born in the wrong country? Thats like saying ''we will ban team canada from hockey olympics, simply because France, japan etc cant compete with them!'' | ||
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Ensiferum8
Canada103 Posts
On February 24 2016 10:19 Prodigy311 wrote: Im maybe ''elitist'' but what casual plebs like you dont understand is that what we want is something fair.i love that all the sc2 elitists that probably play at a diamond level that are boycotting wcs because it doesn't have koreans. i don't think i've ever seen such a senseless crusade, almost as if you actually want the game to die so you can be the only one in the world who cares about it. why should a bunch of a koreans shit on america and eu when the vast majority of americans and europeons want to know who the best american and eu players are? please feel free to miss all the incredible games. you do realize we will get to see WORLDS at blizzcon and w/e wcs events are global. get your panties unbundled and appreciate the fact that we're not watching some korean b teamers win dreamhacks and iems pushing away loads of casual viewers. honestly we were over saturated with global play and it takes away from how special it really is. there's a reason why the world cup isn't played for every 3 months. keep those tears coming, they're icing on the cake of finally figuring out who the best is in each region! As far as i know, korean are not born with 6 fingers, 3 hands, or other stuff that would gave them a natural advantage. They just work harder, train harder, pratice harder and consequently, become better at the game. Its completly unfair to ban someone from a tournament because he is better. THATS senseless. Doing a local tournament only is fine exemple: only america. Or only people from europe can participate, thats fine too. But banning 1 country, 1 single country from every tournament simply because they are too good? Thats outright stupid. But yeah, fun fact, im quite sure the game will die way faster with the new rule, since a lot of hardcore that support the game since forever will not watch these tournaments, and casual will come and go, like they often always do. But yeah, keep calling us elitist, while showing no sign of understanding at all whats unfair in all of that. | ||
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SinO[Ob]
France897 Posts
On February 24 2016 11:16 Ensiferum8 wrote: Im maybe ''elitist'' but what casual plebs like you dont understand is that what we want is something fair. As far as i know, korean are not born with 6 fingers, 3 hands, or other stuff that would gave them a natural advantage. They just work harder, train harder, pratice harder and consequently, become better at the game. Its completly unfair to ban someone from a tournament because he is better. THATS senseless. Doing a local tournament only is fine exemple: only america. Or only people from europe can participate, thats fine too. But banning 1 country, 1 single country from every tournament simply because they are too good? Thats outright stupid. But yeah, fun fact, im quite sure the game will die way faster with the new rule, since a lot of hardcore that support the game since forever will not watch these tournaments, and casual will come and go, like they often always do. But yeah, keep calling us elitist, while showing no sign of understanding at all whats unfair in all of that. Korean training environement vs foreigners training environement. Which is the best? When every player will be equal on that I will consider the unfair part. Until then maybe its a bit too harsh but come on let the foreigner scene develop itself for 1 or 2 years and old system will be back. Just let the foreigners players gaigning some confidence with BIG titles. Its good for the players/team/scene. | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On February 24 2016 11:24 SinO[Ob] wrote: Korean training environement vs foreigners training environement. Which is the best? When every player will be equal on that I will consider the unfair part. Until then maybe its a bit too harsh but come on let the foreigner scene develop itself for 1 or 2 years and old system will be back. Just let the foreigners players gaigning some confidence with BIG titles. Its good for the players/team/scene. And even if we were willing, which we're not, when the EXACT same thing happens in two years and whoever is left in Korea is destroying every foreigner again, what then? | ||
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SinO[Ob]
France897 Posts
On February 24 2016 11:37 showstealer1829 wrote: And even if we were willing, which we're not, when the EXACT same thing happens in two years and whoever is left in Korea is destroying every foreigner again, what then? Then its a failure. But to see if it works you have to try it. I dont understand that you people really think thats the last move of Blizzard. WCS is changing season after season. Why would it be different here? So let foreigners and their team having visibility/titles/money for some times if the scene dont grow up then it will be korean again or not. Rules will change let hem make their proof before speculating. | ||
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oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/ogamingsc2/v/40157880 starting at the 39 minute mark. It's casted in french tho, sorry ^^ Basically it's a super back and forth, low-eco game with super cute micro moves from both players, and action all around the map. Highly untertaining all game long | ||
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mikumegurine
Canada3145 Posts
isnt this the main official WCS season 1? uhh..why single elim for the WCS main season... | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
On February 24 2016 13:18 mikumegurine wrote: wait this is single elim? isnt this the main official WCS season 1? uhh..why single elim for the WCS main season... Its simple, we ban koreans. Problem solved. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
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starslayer
United States696 Posts
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Nakajin
Canada8989 Posts
On February 24 2016 09:53 Ensiferum8 wrote: I have watched since the first WCS ( stephano vs MVP <3 was epic), but this is the first WCS i will not watch, and might never watch again if things dont change. Im a huge sc2 fan, but like a lot of people, i want to see the best, not the best of the scrubs. So 2013 Stephano and MVP were the best player in the world? WCS has never been the best player, I don't mean that I totally agree with the new rules, but saying that WCS was the best player and now is "the best of the scrub" is just not true, hell it is like 80% the same players! Outside of MMA, Taeja, Hyun, MC at the start and mabye DuckDuck or Yoda their were no big tournament winner in WCS that are not there now. | ||
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starslayer
United States696 Posts
On February 24 2016 13:44 ZAiNs wrote: A single-elim bracket with more than 16 players is a joke. IDK about a joke but i do think they maybe need bo7 not bo5 or double elims, LOTV games are rather short. Even my mech games I play are at most 25-30 mins long, and a lot of them dont even get there. | ||
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