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Jett.Jack.Alvir
Canada2250 Posts
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dr3am_b3ing
Canada188 Posts
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alukarD
Mexico396 Posts
We don't get to see play the best against the best in the world at every tournament, actually, its more occasionally, happening for some sports once a year (say Champions league), or even once every four years (say World Cup). I never see my soccer team (Mexico) play against the best of the world (for example, Germany or Spain), but when I do, I get really excited. Same here. When the best foreigners clash against the best Koreans at some tournaments a year, that is going to be super hype, with more story-lines and more players people can cheer for. Try to be supportive. So far so good. | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
This should be the prime product of WCS 2016... and is handled really professional like we are used to with all WCS Events. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12134 Posts
On February 24 2016 00:36 alukarD wrote: SC2 needed a drastic change. Blizzard made drastic changes. For me, it makes sense. We don't get to see play the best against the best in the world at every tournament, actually, its more occasionally, happening for some sports once a year (say Champions league), or even once every four years (say World Cup). I never see my soccer team (Mexico) play against the best of the world (for example, Germany or Spain), but when I do, I get really excited. Same here. When the best foreigners clash against the best Koreans at some tournaments a year, that is going to be super hype, with more story-lines and more players people can cheer for. Try to be supportive. So far so good. I won't be supportive about some shit I hate. What many WCS haters want is some global events to be announced. Right now the only global event is Blizzcon! If the season will follow the same schedule as the last one, we are passed 20 % of it and we haven't had 1 fucking global event. (Blizzcon in November, the last tourney in October) I am trying to ignore WCS threads and just read them to point out some stupid shit(like "geez, foreigners will go deep in this tournament!"), but when people write something like you I really cannot control myself. And again, don't use football analogy, for the love of me, do not use this fucking idiotic analogy. The analogy is so far from showing what is happening in SC2 that it's not even funny. Oh, and you know what is funny? The last year I could choose several tournaments to see the top players who travels(sOs, herO, Innovation, soO etc.). Now I have NOTHING. Yay, I should be supportive? Are you fucking kidding me?! I was supportive before when I was visiting those, now fuck them. Anyway, I don't have the money to travel to Korea every now and then to see these players. Hey, but it's OK, I should be supportive... really?! | ||
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alukarD
Mexico396 Posts
On February 24 2016 00:59 deacon.frost wrote: I won't be supportive about some shit I hate. What many WCS haters want is some global events to be announced. Right now the only global event is Blizzcon! If the season will follow the same schedule as the last one, we are passed 20 % of it and we haven't had 1 fucking global event. (Blizzcon in November, the last tourney in October) I am trying to ignore WCS threads and just read them to point out some stupid shit(like "geez, foreigners will go deep in this tournament!"), but when people write something like you I really cannot control myself. And again, don't use football analogy, for the love of me, do not use this fucking idiotic analogy. The analogy is so far from showing what is happening in SC2 that it's not even funny. Oh, and you know what is funny? The last year I could choose several tournaments to see the top players who travels(sOs, herO, Innovation, soO etc.). Now I have NOTHING. Yay, I should be supportive? Are you fucking kidding me?! I was supportive before when I was visiting those, now fuck them. Anyway, I don't have the money to travel to Korea every now and then to see these players. Hey, but it's OK, I should be supportive... really?! Well I'm sorry to hear that. Sadly, the system won't change because an angry fan. Rather than pointing out the things you're sad/mad about, why not find solutions or ways to improve the scene in the actual system? The system is not perfect. Which system is? But I'm willing to give it a chance. This systems brings out talent from smaller places from all around the world. If the game was only for the very best and all koreans could play at all the tournaments, how could these new talents arise or even show themselves to the world? The scene needs more local heroes. You can choose who to support, and if that's koreans well so be it, GSL and Proleague are happening, and if you want to see them live, well sorry it got more difficult. Its always been like this in all sports. I've wanted to see the Superbowl live for several years now, be part of the yelling crowd. Do you think it is easy to do it? Well, no. But overall, if you're that unhappy, just cut yourself from the scene, and stop being a dragger. Scene is doing good so far. | ||
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Advantageous
China1350 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On February 24 2016 00:36 alukarD wrote: SC2 needed a drastic change. Blizzard made drastic changes. For me, it makes sense. We don't get to see play the best against the best in the world at every tournament, actually, its more occasionally, happening for some sports once a year (say Champions league), or even once every four years (say World Cup). I never see my soccer team (Mexico) play against the best of the world (for example, Germany or Spain), but when I do, I get really excited. Same here. When the best foreigners clash against the best Koreans at some tournaments a year, that is going to be super hype, with more story-lines and more players people can cheer for. Try to be supportive. So far so good. SC2 is not a team game. Better comparison would be with tennis, and WCS being the equivalent of ATP. And oh, guess what? ATP doesn't lock out certain players from participating in lower-tier tournaments for the sake of "developing the local scene", though I admit it would be pretty fun to see the Dubai Tennis Championships being reserved to tennismen from the Arabic peninsula. I'm sure local tennismen would love to share a $2,000,000 prizepool. | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
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NasusAndDraven
359 Posts
On February 23 2016 15:20 OSCEWiNtER wrote: (T)Polt vs (Z)Lambo (P)PtitDrogo vs (T)Dayshi (Z)Serral vs (Z)FireCake (T)Bunny vs (P)Has (P)MaNa vs (P)PiLiPiLi (P)HuK vs (Z)PiG (P)ShoWTimE vs (Z)Nerchio (P)Lilbow vs (Z)SortOf (P)puCK vs (T)MarineLorD (Z)XiGua vs (Z)viOLet (T)MaSa vs (P)Harstem (T)MajOr vs (Z)Snute (T)Happy vs (Z)Hydra (T)Kelazhur vs (P)Neeb (Z)VortiX vs (Z)Elazer (Z)iAsonu vs (Z)TLO (T)Polt vs (P)PtitDrogo (Z)Serral vs (T)Bunny (P)MaNa vs (Z)PiG (Z)Nerchio vs (P)Lilbow (T)MarineLorD vs (Z)viOLet (P)Harstem vs (Z)Snute (Z)Hydra vs (P)Neeb (Z)Elazer vs (Z)iAsonu (T)Polt vs (T)Bunny (P)MaNa vs (Z)Nerchio (Z)viOLet vs (Z)Snute (P)Neeb vs (Z)Elazer (T)Polt vs (Z)Nerchio (Z)Snute vs (P)Neeb (T)Polt vs (P)Neeb This is what people from NA actually believe. Neeb is not going past 2nd round. Even thou HuK is an inferior player, he actually might reach round 3 because of brackets. | ||
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SinO[Ob]
France898 Posts
Im really tired to see comments like "This korean deserve more cause he dedicate more to the game." And when you answer foreigners dedicate as much, you still have the look at stephano/lilbow case going right in your face. Like theres two players in the scene... Stop being so mad that we have now diversity in SC... Let some of foreigners have some hope for their progamming carrer. TY. | ||
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alukarD
Mexico396 Posts
On February 24 2016 01:19 OtherWorld wrote: SC2 is not a team game. Better comparison would be with tennis, and WCS being the equivalent of ATP. And oh, guess what? ATP doesn't lock out certain players from participating in lower-tier tournaments for the sake of "developing the local scene", though I admit it would be pretty fun to see the Dubai Tennis Championships being reserved to tennismen from the Arabic peninsula. I'm sure local tennismen would love to share a $2,000,000 prizepool. Ok you're right its not a team game and I don't know how tennis works, tournaments-wise. This system sure it doesn't benefit Koreans, but it does benefit a ton more of people. Many fans will go away with system, but I believe way more fans will come to the scene having locals players, regional players or national players to support. Koreans will always have their fans all around the world, but some people, I would say most of the people, want to cheer for a national champ and see them beat the rest of the world and be happy and relate with their triumph. Also, having this type of more local heroes and more players representing more parts of the world its good for investment, its good for esports, attracting more companies and big brands on supporting this game; and this obviously is good for the scene, for the fans, for the players, having bigger tournaments and bigger prize-pools; and this results on attracting more players to the scene. Before the system, how many Koreans were making a profit? Compare that number with how many players making a profit from USA, Canada, France, Germany, etc. Ok, now, with the new system, that numbers gets more even. More people get more chances. Sad for Koreans, yeah, but very happy for the rest of the world. Its a new system! Try to enjoy it. | ||
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alukarD
Mexico396 Posts
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`sawyer
210 Posts
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On February 24 2016 01:42 SinO[Ob] wrote: I dont understand why people still complaining about Korean not there in internationnal events :/. You can watch SSL GSL Proleague, and a BUNCH of tournaments who are not in WCS system. (BasetradeTV, Showmatches, ONline cups) Maybe its just about the love of complain... And Im really tired to see comments like "This korean deserve more cause he dedicate more to the game." And when you answer foreigners dedicate as much, you still have the look at stephano/lilbow case going right in your face. Like theres two players in the scene... Stop being so mad that we have now diversity in SC... Let some of foreigners have some hope for their progamming carrer. TY. How about no? | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
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oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
I mean, the more exciting game i saw this past month is a RO128 qualifier game between Bly and a mid-gm french guy named Masterbonsai | ||
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`sawyer
210 Posts
On February 24 2016 02:21 oGoZenob wrote: I dont get the hate. You know that it's posible to have a good show even when not at the very best level ? i mean, i'll be super excited to see maru vs life, and i'm also super excited about drogo vs dayshi. I just love this game, not only players that wins GSLs. I mean, the more exciting game i saw this past month is a RO128 qualifier game between Bly and a mid-gm french guy named Masterbonsai Maybe you should try finding some silver league replays for download. I'm sure you would have a blast watching those | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
On February 23 2016 19:24 boxerfred wrote: rather uninteresting lineup, not gonna tune in. What if we had naniwa instead of nerchio?  | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
On February 24 2016 01:18 Advantageous wrote: tournament isn't the same without an all korean line-up.... Seriously, its an IEM...where are parting hero sos san soo inno etc... | ||
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