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On February 23 2016 20:12 Thax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 20:09 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 20:06 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:04 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 18:18 deacon.frost wrote:On February 23 2016 18:06 Cinek357 wrote:
It's actually the first tournament since a looong time that I am planning to watch quite a lot matches. Not all of them, as I get bored of Starcraft after a while, but having a chance of foreigners going deep in an important tournament is really exciting to me and I want to watch this. Well yeah, that's for sure, foreigners will go deep. That's like watching Europe Championship in football and celebrating the fact, that some European team will go deep in the tournament  Come on, you know, this is the "World Championship with the 32 best players in the world" :-) Actually a pretty nice welfare vacation with all inclusive for several non European players ... The RO32 does not look so great with quite many seriously weak players ... Even RO16 does not look so great. But RO8 could be very interesting. I hope Polt, Hydra and Violet will become "the best foreigners" :-) From RO32, I look forward only to Showtime / Nerchio, as both are quite good and one big supporter of the welfare system could get out in the first round. And PiG / HuK as both are my favorite players. From RO16, I would like to see Serral vs. Has, but although Has is a funny and entertaining player, he has probably no chance and will be lucky if he gets into RO16 at all. The best matches could be MarineLord / Violet. And I hope, Snute does well and gets far. But unfortunately, he is in the same part as MarineLord / Violet. Could you kindly just piss off and go shitpost your salt in some Kespa thread or something? Well, I think, you should actually piss off my friend. I'm not the one trolling and shit stirring for no reason.
You are. I actually believe, you deserve a two day ban for your post. I hope, you get it. My post was on point and about the matches. Your post is just idiotic trolling.
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On February 23 2016 20:13 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 20:12 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:09 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 20:06 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:04 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 18:18 deacon.frost wrote:On February 23 2016 18:06 Cinek357 wrote:
It's actually the first tournament since a looong time that I am planning to watch quite a lot matches. Not all of them, as I get bored of Starcraft after a while, but having a chance of foreigners going deep in an important tournament is really exciting to me and I want to watch this. Well yeah, that's for sure, foreigners will go deep. That's like watching Europe Championship in football and celebrating the fact, that some European team will go deep in the tournament Come on, you know, this is the "World Championship with the 32 best players in the world" :-) Actually a pretty nice welfare vacation with all inclusive for several non European players ... The RO32 does not look so great with quite many seriously weak players ... Even RO16 does not look so great. But RO8 could be very interesting. I hope Polt, Hydra and Violet will become "the best foreigners" :-) From RO32, I look forward only to Showtime / Nerchio, as both are quite good and one big supporter of the welfare system could get out in the first round. And PiG / HuK as both are my favorite players. From RO16, I would like to see Serral vs. Has, but although Has is a funny and entertaining player, he has probably no chance and will be lucky if he gets into RO16 at all. The best matches could be MarineLord / Violet. And I hope, Snute does well and gets far. But unfortunately, he is in the same part as MarineLord / Violet. Could you kindly just piss off and go shitpost your salt in some Kespa thread or something? Well, I think, you should actually piss off my friend. I'm not the one trolling and shit stirring for no reason. You are. I actually believe, you deserve a two day ban for your post. I hope, you get it. My post was on point and about the matches. Your post is just idiotic trolling.
There is nothing "on point" about your post. It's one big condescending passive aggressive troll so you can demonstrate your misguided sense of superiority.
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Pretty hyped for the matches. Been a while since I've been excited about the game but this year with LOTV is gearing up.
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On February 23 2016 20:17 Thax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 20:13 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 20:12 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:09 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 20:06 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:04 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 18:18 deacon.frost wrote:On February 23 2016 18:06 Cinek357 wrote:
It's actually the first tournament since a looong time that I am planning to watch quite a lot matches. Not all of them, as I get bored of Starcraft after a while, but having a chance of foreigners going deep in an important tournament is really exciting to me and I want to watch this. Well yeah, that's for sure, foreigners will go deep. That's like watching Europe Championship in football and celebrating the fact, that some European team will go deep in the tournament Come on, you know, this is the "World Championship with the 32 best players in the world" :-) Actually a pretty nice welfare vacation with all inclusive for several non European players ... The RO32 does not look so great with quite many seriously weak players ... Even RO16 does not look so great. But RO8 could be very interesting. I hope Polt, Hydra and Violet will become "the best foreigners" :-) From RO32, I look forward only to Showtime / Nerchio, as both are quite good and one big supporter of the welfare system could get out in the first round. And PiG / HuK as both are my favorite players. From RO16, I would like to see Serral vs. Has, but although Has is a funny and entertaining player, he has probably no chance and will be lucky if he gets into RO16 at all. The best matches could be MarineLord / Violet. And I hope, Snute does well and gets far. But unfortunately, he is in the same part as MarineLord / Violet. Could you kindly just piss off and go shitpost your salt in some Kespa thread or something? Well, I think, you should actually piss off my friend. I'm not the one trolling and shit stirring for no reason. You are. I actually believe, you deserve a two day ban for your post. I hope, you get it. My post was on point and about the matches. Your post is just idiotic trolling. There is nothing "on point" about your post. It's one big condescending passive aggressive troll so you can demonstrate your misguided sense of superiority.
Sorry boy. You are the one who started non on point attacking.
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On February 23 2016 20:23 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 20:17 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:13 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 20:12 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:09 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 20:06 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:04 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 18:18 deacon.frost wrote:On February 23 2016 18:06 Cinek357 wrote:
It's actually the first tournament since a looong time that I am planning to watch quite a lot matches. Not all of them, as I get bored of Starcraft after a while, but having a chance of foreigners going deep in an important tournament is really exciting to me and I want to watch this. Well yeah, that's for sure, foreigners will go deep. That's like watching Europe Championship in football and celebrating the fact, that some European team will go deep in the tournament Come on, you know, this is the "World Championship with the 32 best players in the world" :-) Actually a pretty nice welfare vacation with all inclusive for several non European players ... The RO32 does not look so great with quite many seriously weak players ... Even RO16 does not look so great. But RO8 could be very interesting. I hope Polt, Hydra and Violet will become "the best foreigners" :-) From RO32, I look forward only to Showtime / Nerchio, as both are quite good and one big supporter of the welfare system could get out in the first round. And PiG / HuK as both are my favorite players. From RO16, I would like to see Serral vs. Has, but although Has is a funny and entertaining player, he has probably no chance and will be lucky if he gets into RO16 at all. The best matches could be MarineLord / Violet. And I hope, Snute does well and gets far. But unfortunately, he is in the same part as MarineLord / Violet. Could you kindly just piss off and go shitpost your salt in some Kespa thread or something? Well, I think, you should actually piss off my friend. I'm not the one trolling and shit stirring for no reason. You are. I actually believe, you deserve a two day ban for your post. I hope, you get it. My post was on point and about the matches. Your post is just idiotic trolling. There is nothing "on point" about your post. It's one big condescending passive aggressive troll so you can demonstrate your misguided sense of superiority. Sorry boy. I am not going to fight wars with idiots.
And this would not be a 2 day ban by your rules? Your sig isn't really on the up and up either.
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On February 23 2016 20:09 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 20:06 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:04 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 18:18 deacon.frost wrote:On February 23 2016 18:06 Cinek357 wrote:
It's actually the first tournament since a looong time that I am planning to watch quite a lot matches. Not all of them, as I get bored of Starcraft after a while, but having a chance of foreigners going deep in an important tournament is really exciting to me and I want to watch this. Well yeah, that's for sure, foreigners will go deep. That's like watching Europe Championship in football and celebrating the fact, that some European team will go deep in the tournament Come on, you know, this is the "World Championship with the 32 best players in the world" :-) Actually a pretty nice welfare vacation with all inclusive for several non European players ... The RO32 does not look so great with quite many seriously weak players ... Even RO16 does not look so great. But RO8 could be very interesting. I hope Polt, Hydra and Violet will become "the best foreigners" :-) From RO32, I look forward only to Showtime / Nerchio, as both are quite good and one big supporter of the welfare system could get out in the first round. And PiG / HuK as both are my favorite players. From RO16, I would like to see Serral vs. Has, but although Has is a funny and entertaining player, he has probably no chance and will be lucky if he gets into RO16 at all. The best matches could be MarineLord / Violet. And I hope, Snute does well and gets far. But unfortunately, he is in the same part as MarineLord / Violet. Could you kindly just piss off and go shitpost your salt in some Kespa thread or something? Well, I think, you should actually piss off my friend.
Why do you keep spreading so much negativity, you won´t achieve your goal and affect the hype of others unfortunatly.
I know so many of you hate this changes, how about you make an own thread and show your disgrace towards the new WCS system. No matter which thread, everywhere are this salty posts, it really doesn´t contribute anything. 
If I don´t enjoy an event/anything, guess what, yeah i don´t watch it. But i am to old to go around and tell everyone
how i am not watching, simply because nobody fk cares mate.
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happy got hydra in the first round? really? T_T
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Dear Hydra:
Happy Independence Day !!
Signed,
Happy
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On February 23 2016 20:23 Diabolique wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 20:17 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:13 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 20:12 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:09 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 20:06 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:04 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 18:18 deacon.frost wrote:On February 23 2016 18:06 Cinek357 wrote:
It's actually the first tournament since a looong time that I am planning to watch quite a lot matches. Not all of them, as I get bored of Starcraft after a while, but having a chance of foreigners going deep in an important tournament is really exciting to me and I want to watch this. Well yeah, that's for sure, foreigners will go deep. That's like watching Europe Championship in football and celebrating the fact, that some European team will go deep in the tournament Come on, you know, this is the "World Championship with the 32 best players in the world" :-) Actually a pretty nice welfare vacation with all inclusive for several non European players ... The RO32 does not look so great with quite many seriously weak players ... Even RO16 does not look so great. But RO8 could be very interesting. I hope Polt, Hydra and Violet will become "the best foreigners" :-) From RO32, I look forward only to Showtime / Nerchio, as both are quite good and one big supporter of the welfare system could get out in the first round. And PiG / HuK as both are my favorite players. From RO16, I would like to see Serral vs. Has, but although Has is a funny and entertaining player, he has probably no chance and will be lucky if he gets into RO16 at all. The best matches could be MarineLord / Violet. And I hope, Snute does well and gets far. But unfortunately, he is in the same part as MarineLord / Violet. Could you kindly just piss off and go shitpost your salt in some Kespa thread or something? Well, I think, you should actually piss off my friend. I'm not the one trolling and shit stirring for no reason. You are. I actually believe, you deserve a two day ban for your post. I hope, you get it. My post was on point and about the matches. Your post is just idiotic trolling. There is nothing "on point" about your post. It's one big condescending passive aggressive troll so you can demonstrate your misguided sense of superiority. Sorry boy. You are the one who started non on point attacking.
Lol at your panic edit. And no I wasn't. That entire post, including your sig, is an attack to everyone who disagrees with your elitist snobbery and just wants to have fun with this WCS season. You don't like it? Fine. But stop coming into these threads with your pissy attitude then.
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Has is gonna humiliate bunny so hard.
Probably gonna be painful to watch.
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On February 23 2016 21:13 Thax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 20:23 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 20:17 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:13 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 20:12 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:09 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 20:06 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:04 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 18:18 deacon.frost wrote:On February 23 2016 18:06 Cinek357 wrote:
It's actually the first tournament since a looong time that I am planning to watch quite a lot matches. Not all of them, as I get bored of Starcraft after a while, but having a chance of foreigners going deep in an important tournament is really exciting to me and I want to watch this. Well yeah, that's for sure, foreigners will go deep. That's like watching Europe Championship in football and celebrating the fact, that some European team will go deep in the tournament Come on, you know, this is the "World Championship with the 32 best players in the world" :-) Actually a pretty nice welfare vacation with all inclusive for several non European players ... The RO32 does not look so great with quite many seriously weak players ... Even RO16 does not look so great. But RO8 could be very interesting. I hope Polt, Hydra and Violet will become "the best foreigners" :-) From RO32, I look forward only to Showtime / Nerchio, as both are quite good and one big supporter of the welfare system could get out in the first round. And PiG / HuK as both are my favorite players. From RO16, I would like to see Serral vs. Has, but although Has is a funny and entertaining player, he has probably no chance and will be lucky if he gets into RO16 at all. The best matches could be MarineLord / Violet. And I hope, Snute does well and gets far. But unfortunately, he is in the same part as MarineLord / Violet. Could you kindly just piss off and go shitpost your salt in some Kespa thread or something? Well, I think, you should actually piss off my friend. I'm not the one trolling and shit stirring for no reason. You are. I actually believe, you deserve a two day ban for your post. I hope, you get it. My post was on point and about the matches. Your post is just idiotic trolling. There is nothing "on point" about your post. It's one big condescending passive aggressive troll so you can demonstrate your misguided sense of superiority. Sorry boy. You are the one who started non on point attacking. Lol at your panic edit. And no I wasn't. That entire post, including your sig, is an attack to everyone who disagrees with your elitist snobbery and just wants to have fun with this WCS season. You don't like it? Fine. But stop coming into these threads with your pissy attitude then. Because people aren't allowed to show their disgust with a system that systematically bans all the players from a specific country from all international tournaments for no reason other then being "too good".
Personally I'm pretty hyped for this tournament as I find foreigner starcraft to be very enjoyable sometimes but the current system is just incredibly unfair towards korean players and that has to be mentioned.
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On February 23 2016 21:56 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 21:13 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:23 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 20:17 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:13 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 20:12 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:09 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 20:06 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:04 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 18:18 deacon.frost wrote:[quote] Well yeah, that's for sure, foreigners will go deep. That's like watching Europe Championship in football and celebrating the fact, that some European team will go deep in the tournament Come on, you know, this is the "World Championship with the 32 best players in the world" :-) Actually a pretty nice welfare vacation with all inclusive for several non European players ... The RO32 does not look so great with quite many seriously weak players ... Even RO16 does not look so great. But RO8 could be very interesting. I hope Polt, Hydra and Violet will become "the best foreigners" :-) From RO32, I look forward only to Showtime / Nerchio, as both are quite good and one big supporter of the welfare system could get out in the first round. And PiG / HuK as both are my favorite players. From RO16, I would like to see Serral vs. Has, but although Has is a funny and entertaining player, he has probably no chance and will be lucky if he gets into RO16 at all. The best matches could be MarineLord / Violet. And I hope, Snute does well and gets far. But unfortunately, he is in the same part as MarineLord / Violet. Could you kindly just piss off and go shitpost your salt in some Kespa thread or something? Well, I think, you should actually piss off my friend. I'm not the one trolling and shit stirring for no reason. You are. I actually believe, you deserve a two day ban for your post. I hope, you get it. My post was on point and about the matches. Your post is just idiotic trolling. There is nothing "on point" about your post. It's one big condescending passive aggressive troll so you can demonstrate your misguided sense of superiority. Sorry boy. You are the one who started non on point attacking. Lol at your panic edit. And no I wasn't. That entire post, including your sig, is an attack to everyone who disagrees with your elitist snobbery and just wants to have fun with this WCS season. You don't like it? Fine. But stop coming into these threads with your pissy attitude then. Because people aren't allowed to show their disgust with a system that systematically bans all the players from a specific country from all international tournaments for no reason other then being "too good". Personally I'm pretty hyped for this tournament as I find foreigner starcraft to be very enjoyable sometimes but the current system is just incredibly unfair towards korean players and that has to be mentioned.
And apparently that has to be mentioned over and over again in the most obnoxiously condescending manner possible in *every single thread* on the subject.
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Although I'm a bit hyped for the production value behind this, this new system is to me like a Paralympics Championship.
It's just not a world wide competition if you divide into 2 categories of players: those who have a chance (Korea) and those who don't.
It doesn't make sense and I was wayyyy more hyped for some clash between top foreigners and a korean than this kindergarden crap now.
Sorry for the honesty, but it should be allowed to critisize.
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Looking forward to the inevitable insanity of Has vs Bunny.
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the format is super brutal. The first match you do is worth 6000 dollars. Lose it and you go home empty handed
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On February 23 2016 22:13 africola wrote:
Although I'm a bit hyped for the production value behind this, this new system is to me like a Paralympics Championship.
It's just not a world wide competition if you divide into 2 categories of players: those who have a chance (Korea) and those who don't.
It doesn't make sense and I was wayyyy more hyped for some clash between top foreigners and a korean than this kindergarden crap now.
Sorry for the honesty, but it should be allowed to critisize.
Region locked tournaments happen in any sports and aren't comparable in any way to paralympics.
The only problem right now is that koreans are banned from ALL international tournaments.
Honestly, make a good number of global events and the system would be fine.
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So hyped for this ! D: Those matches looks good ! Cant wait for it to start! :D
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On February 23 2016 14:22 MiniFotToss wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 14:07 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On February 23 2016 13:55 Cricketer12 wrote:
Wait so is this iem or the official wcs tournament? It's both the first of the three WCS Circuit Championships and also IEM Season X. Where's PartinG, INnovation, Classic and soO then, it's not IEM (technically)
you forgot herO and Rain! although, one of them is retired anyways...
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On February 23 2016 22:13 africola wrote:
Although I'm a bit hyped for the production value behind this, this new system is to me like a Paralympics Championship.
It's just not a world wide competition if you divide into 2 categories of players: those who have a chance (Korea) and those who don't.
It doesn't make sense and I was wayyyy more hyped for some clash between top foreigners and a korean than this kindergarden crap now.
Sorry for the honesty, but it should be allowed to critisize.
a bit weird that you call anybody outside korea handicapped.
however, I must agree, there are little to no examples in real sports where the best of the best are excluded from a world cup... then again, a world cup SERIES can have regional events which build up to a truly global event. in sc2 it is traditionally broken down into two regions (inside and outside of korea) and I see no intrinsic problem with that, because the Korean scene is as big as the other (foreign) scenes combined. it has always been like that and now it's simply more restrictive.
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On February 23 2016 21:13 Thax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 23 2016 20:23 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 20:17 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:13 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 20:12 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:09 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 20:06 Thax wrote:On February 23 2016 20:04 Diabolique wrote:On February 23 2016 18:18 deacon.frost wrote:On February 23 2016 18:06 Cinek357 wrote:
It's actually the first tournament since a looong time that I am planning to watch quite a lot matches. Not all of them, as I get bored of Starcraft after a while, but having a chance of foreigners going deep in an important tournament is really exciting to me and I want to watch this. Well yeah, that's for sure, foreigners will go deep. That's like watching Europe Championship in football and celebrating the fact, that some European team will go deep in the tournament Come on, you know, this is the "World Championship with the 32 best players in the world" :-) Actually a pretty nice welfare vacation with all inclusive for several non European players ... The RO32 does not look so great with quite many seriously weak players ... Even RO16 does not look so great. But RO8 could be very interesting. I hope Polt, Hydra and Violet will become "the best foreigners" :-) From RO32, I look forward only to Showtime / Nerchio, as both are quite good and one big supporter of the welfare system could get out in the first round. And PiG / HuK as both are my favorite players. From RO16, I would like to see Serral vs. Has, but although Has is a funny and entertaining player, he has probably no chance and will be lucky if he gets into RO16 at all. The best matches could be MarineLord / Violet. And I hope, Snute does well and gets far. But unfortunately, he is in the same part as MarineLord / Violet. Could you kindly just piss off and go shitpost your salt in some Kespa thread or something? Well, I think, you should actually piss off my friend. I'm not the one trolling and shit stirring for no reason. You are. I actually believe, you deserve a two day ban for your post. I hope, you get it. My post was on point and about the matches. Your post is just idiotic trolling. There is nothing "on point" about your post. It's one big condescending passive aggressive troll so you can demonstrate your misguided sense of superiority. Sorry boy. You are the one who started non on point attacking. Lol at your panic edit. And no I wasn't. That entire post, including your sig, is an attack to everyone who disagrees with your elitist snobbery and just wants to have fun with this WCS season. You don't like it? Fine. But stop coming into these threads with your pissy attitude then.
Waitwaitwait. Disliking WCS has nothing to do with elitism. For me, I hate the new WCS system as it ignores the players that devote the most to the game in disregard of their actual chances. Remember the story of Duckdeok. He came to win a rather weak competition as a rather weak b-teamer from Korea. Without that though he'd have had 2-4 years of being a b-teamer (widely considered as irrelevant by many) without any chance to shine. However he devoted so much to this, to his dream of programing, that it's much more than your average foreign champ will ever do. Compare that devotion to a guy named Lilbow who didn't give a shit about practicing for the tournament that for many is a once-in-a-lifetime-chance (Blizzcon).
Lilbow is probably going to earn more (or has already earned more) money than duckdeok. In which world is that fair.
And yes, while this is a single example that is very much in the favour of what I try to express here, the WCS system is all around based on rewarding the guys that put less effort into the game and have an overall worse skill level than the koreans. If Blizzard insists on making WCS more foreigner friendly by locking out the overall better part of the players, they should create opportunities to push the korean scene as well. They should provide more price money to Korea, fund more tournaments in Korea, support grassroots movements and so on. They should not just say "hey there's WCS global, right?" because the whole idea of a WORLD championship series is that it is global.
From 8 foreign Blizzcon slots, 6, maybe seven, and maybe even all 8 will be stolen from more deserving koreans. This is what I blame WCS for. Pushing a weaker pro scene at the aggressive expense of another is not the way to go.
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