EPTLife arrested on match-fixing charges - Page 68
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On February 14 2016 08:59 Seeker wrote: Starting from this page on, I will be moderating more harshly toward any mention of MarineKing's name. This thread has NOTHING to do with MarineKing. Do not talk about MarineKing even if you are defending him. Just don't do it. Please no match-fixing accusations on MarineKing or any other player if it has not officially been confirmed. This goes for other players too. -The_Templar | ||
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RoomOfMush
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Yrr
Germany804 Posts
On February 14 2016 04:51 RoomOfMush wrote: Damn. All the haters are right, SC2 has no more life. We are still aLive though. | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On February 14 2016 04:30 chipmonklord17 wrote: The only good that could come from this Life mess is that people actually start respecting MK again because he either didn't do it or is literally the greatest match fixer of all time. And something tells me its not that second one. MK just made a diamond league mistake. In other words, he went full MarineKing | ||
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necrosexy
451 Posts
On February 14 2016 04:55 showstealer1829 wrote: MK just made a diamond league mistake. In other words, he went full MarineKing he went full Matchfix, MK apologist User was warned for this post | ||
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Hider
Denmark9433 Posts
The only good that could come from this Life mess is that people actually start respecting MK again because he either didn't do it or is literally the greatest match fixer of all time. And something tells me its not that second one. The only way you get to that conclusion is if your already biased in favor of Marineking being innocent. Because the news of an additional Starcraft player matchfixing certainly doesn't make it less likely that MK did't do it. | ||
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Mistakes
United States1102 Posts
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
On February 14 2016 06:15 Mistakes wrote: If they can find incriminating evidence against Life, it would be absurd that they couldn't find similar evidence against MarineKing. Therefore MarineKing getting off the hook, and Life being arrested does (to me) point to MarineKing being innocent. agreed  | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On February 14 2016 05:47 Hider wrote: The only way you get to that conclusion is if your already biased in favor of Marineking being innocent. Because the news of an additional Starcraft player matchfixing certainly doesn't make it less likely that MK did't do it. How doesn't it exactly? Marineking was confirmed investigated and unlike Life hasn't been arrested. So he either A) Didn't do it B) Is so fucking good at it that they couldn't catch him Now which of those things seems more logical? | ||
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riotjune
United States3394 Posts
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hansonslee
United States2027 Posts
On February 14 2016 06:26 chipmonklord17 wrote: How doesn't it exactly? Marineking was confirmed investigated and unlike Life hasn't been arrested. So he either A) Didn't do it B) Is so fucking good at it that they couldn't catch him Now which of those things seems more logical? Guess that means MarineKing occassionally has low SC2 IQ! Awesome  | ||
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Hurricaned
France126 Posts
On February 14 2016 06:26 chipmonklord17 wrote: How doesn't it exactly? Marineking was confirmed investigated and unlike Life hasn't been arrested. So he either A) Didn't do it B) Is so fucking good at it that they couldn't catch him Now which of those things seems more logical? Or it is very possible the investigators never got enough proof that he did in fact receive money. If they can't find any trace of the cash he made, especially if it was spot cash, and if they can't get any mails or messages they just can't incriminate him based on a single game he lost. However I just can't believe he played this game to win it makes no sense. -First of all : he scouts the spine. At this level of play they can notice a drop on the minimap even if if shows for only a quarter of second so a building over creep so close to his base at a moment of the game where there is absolutely nothing else to do it is completely unrealistic that he didn't notice it -That said, let's say he didn't see it. Or let's pretend the reaper never went close to it and he never watched it. He didn't scout a damn 2nd base. In a TvZ. A. Freaking. TvZ. How often in your life do you see a 1 base zerg in a TvZ? For the terran perspective it means : sweet, I make 2 bunkers, I hold for a few minutes and it is free win. What does marineking do? Go 3 cc and do hellion reaper. Like... what? Seriously? And on top of that you keep the reapers in your base doing nothing. I mean you can like the guy, it's tough to admit it, but there's so much wrong in this game. I mean even a diamond player would have put up a better fight. I know marineking is known to be greedy and stuff but I mean there's just no reason at all here with everything scouted. It was intentional throw. There is no other explanation. Unfortunately you can hardly argue over this in court so investigators were probably asked to provide some physical evidence, which they never (or at least not yet) found because mkp probably took some caution when he did his little business. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
On February 14 2016 06:26 chipmonklord17 wrote: How doesn't it exactly? Marineking was confirmed investigated and unlike Life hasn't been arrested. So he either A) Didn't do it B) Is so fucking good at it that they couldn't catch him Now which of those things seems more logical? We all watched that game and i have no idea what could appear more like matchfixing. Sure Life vs Solar is sketchy but if MK got off the hook im sure Life can go 'oh pls spare me i didn't do anything' aswell. Right? | ||
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DonDomingo
504 Posts
On February 14 2016 07:13 Hurricaned wrote: Or it is very possible the investigators never got enough proof that he did in fact receive money. If they can't find any trace of the cash he made, especially if it was spot cash, and if they can't get any mails or messages they just can't incriminate him based on a single game he lost. However I just can't believe he played this game to win it makes no sense. -First of all : he scouts the spine. At this level of play they can notice a drop on the minimap even if if shows for only a quarter of second so a building over creep so close to his base at a moment of the game where there is absolutely nothing else to do it is completely unrealistic that he didn't notice it -That said, let's say he didn't see it. Or let's pretend the reaper never went close to it and he never watched it. He didn't scout a damn 2nd base. In a TvZ. A. Freaking. TvZ. How often in your life do you see a 1 base zerg in a TvZ? For the terran perspective it means : sweet, I make 2 bunkers, I hold for a few minutes and it is free win. What does marineking do? Go 3 cc and do hellion reaper. Like... what? Seriously? And on top of that you keep the reapers in your base doing nothing. I mean you can like the guy, it's tough to admit it, but there's so much wrong in this game. I mean even a diamond player would have put up a better fight. I know marineking is known to be greedy and stuff but I mean there's just no reason at all here with everything scouted. It was intentional throw. There is no other explanation. Unfortunately you can hardly argue over this in court so investigators were probably asked to provide some physical evidence, which they never (or at least not yet) found because mkp probably took some caution when he did his little business. What defies logic, though, is that - assuming MK were actually throwing on purpose - MK couldve done so sooooooo much more elegantly and soooooo much less suspicious all of which obviously leaves us no wiser; theres no way for us to determine whether he was actually losing on purpose. | ||
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
On February 14 2016 07:14 Skynx wrote: We all watched that game and i have no idea what could appear more like matchfixing. Sure Life vs Solar is sketchy but if MK got off the hook im sure Life can go 'oh pls spare me i didn't do anything' aswell. Right? Bad games are hardly evidence of matchfixing. Evidence would be chat/voice recordings and/or exchange of money. Keep your speculations to yourself if you're going to be so wrong. | ||
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DonDomingo
504 Posts
On February 14 2016 07:43 Deathstar wrote: Bad games are hardly evidence of matchfixing. Evidence would be chat/voice recordings and/or exchange of money. Keep your speculations to yourself if you're going to be so wrong. Chat/voice recordings/money transfers wouldnt even be evidence. What if Life or whoever were just teasing about matchfixing? | ||
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Grizvok
United States711 Posts
On February 14 2016 07:14 Skynx wrote: We all watched that game and i have no idea what could appear more like matchfixing. Sure Life vs Solar is sketchy but if MK got off the hook im sure Life can go 'oh pls spare me i didn't do anything' aswell. Right? I'm sure the evidence they have is substantially more tangible than a game where things seem weird. | ||
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Grizvok
United States711 Posts
On February 14 2016 07:45 DonDomingo wrote: Chat/voice recordings/money transfers wouldnt even be evidence. What if Life or whoever were just teasing about matchfixing? Voice recordings of match fixing being planned plus money transfers between parties is a little more than "teasing about match fixing." | ||
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cheekymonkey
France1387 Posts
On February 14 2016 07:45 DonDomingo wrote: Chat/voice recordings/money transfers wouldnt even be evidence. What if Life or whoever were just teasing about matchfixing? "Teasing" about matchfixing is pretty stupid, and I can't see how anyone would do that. | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On February 14 2016 06:50 hansonslee wrote: Guess that means MarineKing occassionally has low SC2 IQ! Awesome We've known that since 2011. | ||
Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37067 Posts
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