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On February 14 2016 08:59 Seeker wrote:
Starting from this page on, I will be moderating more harshly toward any mention of MarineKing's name. This thread has NOTHING to do with MarineKing. Do not talk about MarineKing even if you are defending him. Just don't do it. Please no match-fixing accusations on MarineKing or any other player if it has not officially been confirmed.


This goes for other players too. -The_Templar
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
February 14 2016 10:39 GMT
#1381
On February 14 2016 19:37 RoomOfMush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 19:31 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 14 2016 19:01 Phredxor wrote:


I guess that could easily be related.

Isn't going in Casinos illegal for underage people in Europe?

Whether it is or not doesnt matter. He wouldnt be arrested in korea for a crime he did in europe.

He was arrested for receiving money for match fixing. Casino's have nothing (directly) to do with it.
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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 10:51:47
February 14 2016 10:51 GMT
#1382
On February 14 2016 19:39 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 19:37 RoomOfMush wrote:
On February 14 2016 19:31 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 14 2016 19:01 Phredxor wrote:
https://twitter.com/SaintSnorlax/status/698791938045145088

I guess that could easily be related.

Isn't going in Casinos illegal for underage people in Europe?

Whether it is or not doesnt matter. He wouldnt be arrested in korea for a crime he did in europe.

He was arrested for receiving money for match fixing. Casino's have nothing (directly) to do with it.

While going to Casinos over in Europe does not have to do with anything (and from what I hear/see, it was legal for him to do so) and won't get him arrested, if Life within gambled in South Korea then he would be charged for that.
ppp
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 11:08:58
February 14 2016 11:06 GMT
#1383
On February 14 2016 19:51 supernovamaniac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 19:39 Penev wrote:
On February 14 2016 19:37 RoomOfMush wrote:
On February 14 2016 19:31 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 14 2016 19:01 Phredxor wrote:
https://twitter.com/SaintSnorlax/status/698791938045145088

I guess that could easily be related.

Isn't going in Casinos illegal for underage people in Europe?

Whether it is or not doesnt matter. He wouldnt be arrested in korea for a crime he did in europe.

He was arrested for receiving money for match fixing. Casino's have nothing (directly) to do with it.

While going to Casinos over in Europe does not have to do with anything (and from what I hear/see, it was legal for him to do so) and won't get him arrested, if Life within gambled in South Korea then he would be charged for that.

Sure but he was arrested for receiving money for match fixing. It's in the op.

It is NOT legal to do so btw, at least not in the Netherlands but I'm not sure about all European countries.
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Sholip
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
Hungary422 Posts
February 14 2016 11:13 GMT
#1384
On February 14 2016 19:37 RoomOfMush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 19:31 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 14 2016 19:01 Phredxor wrote:
https://twitter.com/SaintSnorlax/status/698791938045145088

I guess that could easily be related.

Isn't going in Casinos illegal for underage people in Europe?

Whether it is or not doesnt matter. He wouldnt be arrested in korea for a crime he did in europe.

Or does it?
On a slightly related note, I recall reading not long ago about a Hungarian woman, who works in Germany, and her work is somehow related to prostitutes. Not that she herself is a prostitute, but does some administration or other stuff for them, which, in Hungary, would count as procurement and would be illegal, but it is legal in Germany.
And I read that she can't come home, because she would be arrested if she did so, because an act of crime by Hungarian standards is punishable even if commited outside of Hungary, even if in a country where it would not be illegal.
Actually, I was pretty shocked to hear that, but if it's truly the case in Hungary, maybe it is possible in Korea, too? Sounds weird, though...

Anyway, I don't think Life was arrested for going to casinos...
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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
February 14 2016 11:15 GMT
#1385
On February 14 2016 20:06 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 19:51 supernovamaniac wrote:
On February 14 2016 19:39 Penev wrote:
On February 14 2016 19:37 RoomOfMush wrote:
On February 14 2016 19:31 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 14 2016 19:01 Phredxor wrote:
https://twitter.com/SaintSnorlax/status/698791938045145088

I guess that could easily be related.

Isn't going in Casinos illegal for underage people in Europe?

Whether it is or not doesnt matter. He wouldnt be arrested in korea for a crime he did in europe.

He was arrested for receiving money for match fixing. Casino's have nothing (directly) to do with it.

While going to Casinos over in Europe does not have to do with anything (and from what I hear/see, it was legal for him to do so) and won't get him arrested, if Life within gambled in South Korea then he would be charged for that.

Sure but he was arrested for receiving money for match fixing. It's in the op.

It is NOT legal to do so btw, at least not in the Netherlands but I'm not sure about all European countries.

Yup. Just stating that he might get charged with gambling on top of what he was arrested for.
ppp
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6209 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 11:37:55
February 14 2016 11:37 GMT
#1386
nvm
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 11:57:54
February 14 2016 11:54 GMT
#1387
On February 14 2016 19:37 RoomOfMush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 19:31 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 14 2016 19:01 Phredxor wrote:
https://twitter.com/SaintSnorlax/status/698791938045145088

I guess that could easily be related.

Isn't going in Casinos illegal for underage people in Europe?

Whether it is or not doesnt matter. He wouldnt be arrested in korea for a crime he did in europe.

Yes, but I was doubting the fact that he lost 20K$ in a European casino if he couldn't (legally) get in said casino in the first place
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iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
February 14 2016 12:54 GMT
#1388
On February 12 2016 21:41 Skynx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 21:38 iNsaNe- wrote:
On February 12 2016 10:07 DonDomingo wrote:
On February 11 2016 20:00 iNsaNe- wrote:
On February 11 2016 17:16 Garnet wrote:
Huge loss the the scene.


Well, if a damaging player is removed from the scene and it sets up an example to others of what can happen if you do wrong, I can only think it's ultimately a huge gain for the scene. If he is found guilty.

Being found guilty and actually being guilty is not necessarily the same thing.


What's your point? Life might be innocent even if he's eventually found guilty?

You know there are people who turn out to be innocent after spending 40 years in prison, mostly in usa tho


Sure.

I still fail to see how that relates to this case at all though
It takes a fool to remain sane.
Juice!
Profile Joined January 2011
Belgium295 Posts
February 14 2016 12:57 GMT
#1389
On February 14 2016 19:33 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 19:31 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 14 2016 19:01 Phredxor wrote:
https://twitter.com/SaintSnorlax/status/698791938045145088

I guess that could easily be related.

Isn't going in Casinos illegal for underage people in Europe?

I thought so as well. Is there any country in Europe you can go to a casino to under the age of at least 18?



AFAIK it's even 21 in Belgium with an electronic ID control.
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 13:43:53
February 14 2016 13:41 GMT
#1390
On February 14 2016 20:54 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 19:37 RoomOfMush wrote:
On February 14 2016 19:31 OtherWorld wrote:
On February 14 2016 19:01 Phredxor wrote:
https://twitter.com/SaintSnorlax/status/698791938045145088

I guess that could easily be related.

Isn't going in Casinos illegal for underage people in Europe?

Whether it is or not doesnt matter. He wouldnt be arrested in korea for a crime he did in europe.

Yes, but I was doubting the fact that he lost 20K$ in a European casino if he couldn't (legally) get in said casino in the first place


I findit funny that you are from France where the gambling age is in fact 18. First hit I got when I googled legal gaming age in Europe.

From what I read Spain Denmark and Finland are all 18 as well. Parts of Germany too.

In the US casinos restrict under 21 because they serve free alcohol, but you can gamble from 18-on as well. Some of the articles Inread explicitly said casinos and others said gambling so it's possible some of those countries have a similar thing going on as the U.S.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
February 14 2016 13:47 GMT
#1391
I love how the difference in age restrictions implies that alcohol is considered more harmful than gambling in the US.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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waiting2Bbanned
Profile Joined November 2015
United States154 Posts
February 14 2016 13:57 GMT
#1392
I love how the difference in age restrictions implies that alcohol is considered more harmful than gambling in the US.


The "under 21" US rule makes little sense to many people; when you can enlist in the army and go kill/get killed in war, be a porn-star, gamble, smoke, get married & divorced, all when you're 18, makes little sense you'd wait an additional 3 years to have a beer.
But, like most stupid laws here, the reason for it is money - states get additional federal funds for traffic/highway safety if they have the 21-yr-old rule.
"If you are going to break the law, do it with two thousand people.. and Mozart." - Howard Zinn
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
February 14 2016 14:02 GMT
#1393
On February 14 2016 22:57 waiting2Bbanned wrote:
Show nested quote +
I love how the difference in age restrictions implies that alcohol is considered more harmful than gambling in the US.


The "under 21" US rule makes little sense to many people; when you can enlist in the army and go kill/get killed in war, be a porn-star, gamble, smoke, get married & divorced, all when you're 18, makes little sense you'd wait an additional 3 years to have a beer.
But, like most stupid laws here, the reason for it is money - states get additional federal funds for traffic/highway safety if they have the 21-yr-old rule.


If it is really so, than saying that the reason is money is rather shortsighted, isn't it? Who gives the money? What is their motivation? There can't be an infinite chain of institution paying the ones below them to enforce the rule, right?

Anyway, this system where the states essentially compete in being the government with the federal structures is really confusing. Americans need to think about it next time they complain that the rest of the world doesn't get their politics
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Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 14:21:29
February 14 2016 14:20 GMT
#1394
On February 14 2016 23:02 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 22:57 waiting2Bbanned wrote:
I love how the difference in age restrictions implies that alcohol is considered more harmful than gambling in the US.


The "under 21" US rule makes little sense to many people; when you can enlist in the army and go kill/get killed in war, be a porn-star, gamble, smoke, get married & divorced, all when you're 18, makes little sense you'd wait an additional 3 years to have a beer.
But, like most stupid laws here, the reason for it is money - states get additional federal funds for traffic/highway safety if they have the 21-yr-old rule.


If it is really so, than saying that the reason is money is rather shortsighted, isn't it? Who gives the money? What is their motivation? There can't be an infinite chain of institution paying the ones below them to enforce the rule, right?

Anyway, this system where the states essentially compete in being the government with the federal structures is really confusing. Americans need to think about it next time they complain that the rest of the world doesn't get their politics


The federal get the money from the federal tax that US citizens have to pay. So basically the federal government use the federal tax money as an incentive for an extra fund if the states enact a law that would prohibit under 18 drinking.

And yes, US government system can be really confusing. I spend the first year living there trying to wrap my head around the system.
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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
February 14 2016 14:22 GMT
#1395
On February 14 2016 22:47 opisska wrote:
I love how the difference in age restrictions implies that alcohol is considered more harmful than gambling in the US.

Well age restrictions will never be 100% logical.
E.g. as soon as the girl is 16 (with consent of course) in the UK you can have rough sex shit on her chest and all is good. But buy her a light beer and you're in trouble.
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
February 14 2016 14:29 GMT
#1396
I honestly feel like the mods should lock this thread and only unlock it once news is received through credible channels.
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Mier19891
Profile Joined May 2015
United States75 Posts
February 14 2016 15:19 GMT
#1397
On February 14 2016 23:22 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 22:47 opisska wrote:
I love how the difference in age restrictions implies that alcohol is considered more harmful than gambling in the US.

Well age restrictions will never be 100% logical.
E.g. as soon as the girl is 16 (with consent of course) in the UK you can have rough sex shit on her chest and all is good. But buy her a light beer and you're in trouble.



Quite true. It wasn't exactly for "money" as posted above. States didn't receive additional funds for traffic maintenance; they were told if they did not raise the drinking age they would receive nothing at all. This actually substantially increased both under age consumption and drunk driving.

Back to the point though, i think the whole concept was that there is in fact a precedence for Lifes gambling inclination, therefore the logic follows that the worst case may in fact be true.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
February 14 2016 16:20 GMT
#1398
When something is forbidden in your country (but not for outsiders like the casinos in Korea are open to all foreigners) and you got a junk of cash and easy opportunity... why not try out gambling. And when you never learned to gamble reasonable and you have no real connection to money (these guys earn decent money, but have no real stuff to buy, as they life for free in teamhouses, dont drive cars in Seoul and all they do is playing the game) you can easily lose large figures of money in casinos. The 20k$ lose is not the only number spinning arround.

And when you once got fixed with gambling outside of korea, who knows if he not went to the underground gambling areas in korea. And lost even more. And was soon desperate for cash and got hit up with shady persons of that buisness.

We have to wait and see, but alot of that makes sense even when everything is just rumor.
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evolsiefil
Profile Joined October 2015
143 Posts
February 14 2016 16:41 GMT
#1399
in b4 thread lock.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28477 Posts
February 14 2016 16:44 GMT
#1400
On February 15 2016 01:41 evolsiefil wrote:
in b4 thread lock.

Already? It's just 70 pages..
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