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On February 14 2016 08:59 Seeker wrote:
Starting from this page on, I will be moderating more harshly toward any mention of MarineKing's name. This thread has NOTHING to do with MarineKing. Do not talk about MarineKing even if you are defending him. Just don't do it. Please no match-fixing accusations on MarineKing or any other player if it has not officially been confirmed.


This goes for other players too. -The_Templar
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
February 17 2016 22:43 GMT
#1581
On February 18 2016 07:42 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 07:27 InfCereal wrote:
On February 18 2016 07:02 Spyridon wrote:
On February 18 2016 06:32 bduddy wrote:
On February 18 2016 06:30 Dumbledore wrote:
On February 18 2016 06:29 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Just curious, can anyone be arrested elsewhere for similar charges to Life? Or is it only in South Korea you can be arrested because gambling is entirely illegal there?

I know matchfixing is prevalent in other sports/franchises, but is it actually illegal? Or do you just get perma-banned from participating?

edit: trying to stay on topic



It's illegal in most places, just like how stock trading with inside info is illegal.
In the US, fixing any kind of televised competition (including game shows, reality shows, etc.) is illegal. That law was created after there were a bunch of fixed game shows in the 50's. I don't think there are similar laws everywhere, though...


Reality shows should be illegal then.


Reality shows aren't real...

but if the showing of reality isn't real, then the showing of reality isn't the showing of reality, thus the showing of reality is the showing of fiction, and reality is fiction
what is this world we live in

In the end what is real? Lets kick in all the matrix theories.
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Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
February 17 2016 22:54 GMT
#1582
I am very much missing whatever part of this makes sense. In my experience, people do things that make sense - to them, at least. If something seems insane, it's almost always because some jigsaw piece is hidden.

Life is the guy in SC2. If you were going to pick someone to be in Starcraft, it would probably be him. There are a lot of talented players, but when all's said and done, nobody has subverted the idea of what a race should play like more profoundly than him. Zergs don't love Life because he wins, they love him because WHEN he wins, he makes it look like his opponents have completely missed the point.

If he has done this terrible thing, then I flat out don't get it. It's like James Dean going down for tax evasion. I think I mostly don't want it to be true because whatever jigsaw piece completes this picture, I lose.
The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
Spyridon
Profile Joined April 2010
United States997 Posts
February 17 2016 23:05 GMT
#1583
On February 18 2016 07:23 phodacbiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 07:02 Spyridon wrote:
On February 18 2016 06:32 bduddy wrote:
On February 18 2016 06:30 Dumbledore wrote:
On February 18 2016 06:29 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Just curious, can anyone be arrested elsewhere for similar charges to Life? Or is it only in South Korea you can be arrested because gambling is entirely illegal there?

I know matchfixing is prevalent in other sports/franchises, but is it actually illegal? Or do you just get perma-banned from participating?

edit: trying to stay on topic



It's illegal in most places, just like how stock trading with inside info is illegal.
In the US, fixing any kind of televised competition (including game shows, reality shows, etc.) is illegal. That law was created after there were a bunch of fixed game shows in the 50's. I don't think there are similar laws everywhere, though...


Reality shows should be illegal then.


Reality shows are fake and scripted...


Exactly. But most of them are treated as game shows. What makes them any different from a fixed game show from the 50's? Especially considering some of them have you call in or vote and crap on it... Has viewers spending real money on them.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 17 2016 23:10 GMT
#1584
On February 18 2016 07:54 Umpteen wrote:
I am very much missing whatever part of this makes sense. In my experience, people do things that make sense - to them, at least. If something seems insane, it's almost always because some jigsaw piece is hidden.

Life is the guy in SC2. If you were going to pick someone to be in Starcraft, it would probably be him. There are a lot of talented players, but when all's said and done, nobody has subverted the idea of what a race should play like more profoundly than him. Zergs don't love Life because he wins, they love him because WHEN he wins, he makes it look like his opponents have completely missed the point.

If he has done this terrible thing, then I flat out don't get it. It's like James Dean going down for tax evasion. I think I mostly don't want it to be true because whatever jigsaw piece completes this picture, I lose.

Well there are tons and tons of hypothetical reasons that would make sense to explain his potential matchfixing :
-Him feeling that he wasn't as dominant as before, thus it was the right time to gain money through matchfixing
-Him having spent all his $$$ in gambling/parties/whatever, thus being in need for money
-Even worse, him having actually contracted debts doing the forementioned activities, leading to him being really in need for money
-Simple, pure greed (ie more money is always better), as is common in human beings
-Him being blackmailed by criminal organizations into matchfixing
-Him having developed an habit of using opportunities, whether they are legal or not
-Him being persuaded that the Korean scene was going to die soon, thus that he had to make big money in a short time frame
-Him having decided to retire in less than two years, thus that he had to make big money in a short time frame
-etc
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28475 Posts
February 17 2016 23:13 GMT
#1585
This thread is just plain weird
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
February 17 2016 23:38 GMT
#1586
On February 18 2016 08:10 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 07:54 Umpteen wrote:
I am very much missing whatever part of this makes sense. In my experience, people do things that make sense - to them, at least. If something seems insane, it's almost always because some jigsaw piece is hidden.

Life is the guy in SC2. If you were going to pick someone to be in Starcraft, it would probably be him. There are a lot of talented players, but when all's said and done, nobody has subverted the idea of what a race should play like more profoundly than him. Zergs don't love Life because he wins, they love him because WHEN he wins, he makes it look like his opponents have completely missed the point.

If he has done this terrible thing, then I flat out don't get it. It's like James Dean going down for tax evasion. I think I mostly don't want it to be true because whatever jigsaw piece completes this picture, I lose.

Well there are tons and tons of hypothetical reasons that would make sense to explain his potential matchfixing :
-Him feeling that he wasn't as dominant as before, thus it was the right time to gain money through matchfixing
-Him having spent all his $$$ in gambling/parties/whatever, thus being in need for money
-Even worse, him having actually contracted debts doing the forementioned activities, leading to him being really in need for money
-Simple, pure greed (ie more money is always better), as is common in human beings
-Him being blackmailed by criminal organizations into matchfixing
-Him having developed an habit of using opportunities, whether they are legal or not
-Him being persuaded that the Korean scene was going to die soon, thus that he had to make big money in a short time frame
-Him having decided to retire in less than two years, thus that he had to make big money in a short time frame
-etc

Some maybe, some no, but regardless, it's going to have to be major to make this add up.
The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 17 2016 23:39 GMT
#1587
On February 18 2016 08:13 Penev wrote:
This thread is just plain weird


Agreed. It has basically turned into a general discussion. Keep getting my hopes up that there's news.
Jusba
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland189 Posts
February 17 2016 23:54 GMT
#1588
GIVE ME NEWS OR RUMORS I DONT CARE
swissman777
Profile Joined September 2014
1106 Posts
February 18 2016 00:19 GMT
#1589
On February 18 2016 08:54 Jusba wrote:
GIVE ME NEWS OR RUMORS I DONT CARE

I do
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
February 18 2016 06:30 GMT
#1590
On February 18 2016 08:54 Jusba wrote:
GIVE ME NEWS OR RUMORS I DONT CARE


Fresh news: He is still in his cell.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
February 18 2016 07:06 GMT
#1591
On February 18 2016 15:30 WrathSCII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 08:54 Jusba wrote:
GIVE ME NEWS OR RUMORS I DONT CARE


Fresh news: He is still in his cell.

thx for the update
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Mekare
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany393 Posts
February 18 2016 08:36 GMT
#1592
On February 18 2016 08:39 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 08:13 Penev wrote:
This thread is just plain weird


Agreed. It has basically turned into a general discussion. Keep getting my hopes up that there's news.


Yupp. Basically a discussion about life in general... and Life in prison in particular.
;p
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
February 18 2016 08:53 GMT
#1593
On February 18 2016 15:30 WrathSCII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 08:54 Jusba wrote:
GIVE ME NEWS OR RUMORS I DONT CARE


Fresh news: He is still in his cell.


You don't know that! Could be on the loose!
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 18 2016 09:42 GMT
#1594
On February 18 2016 17:53 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 15:30 WrathSCII wrote:
On February 18 2016 08:54 Jusba wrote:
GIVE ME NEWS OR RUMORS I DONT CARE


Fresh news: He is still in his cell.


You don't know that! Could be on the loose!

What if he managed to get a doppelganger in jail instead of him and he's currently partying like a madman in Taiwan
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
February 18 2016 11:29 GMT
#1595
what happend to the mods on tl :/

this thread is disgraceful
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Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
February 18 2016 12:42 GMT
#1596
On February 18 2016 15:30 WrathSCII wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 08:54 Jusba wrote:
GIVE ME NEWS OR RUMORS I DONT CARE


Fresh news: He is still in his cell.

Is he alone there? Or is it just Kespa jail?
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
February 18 2016 13:08 GMT
#1597
On February 18 2016 21:42 Diabolique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 15:30 WrathSCII wrote:
On February 18 2016 08:54 Jusba wrote:
GIVE ME NEWS OR RUMORS I DONT CARE


Fresh news: He is still in his cell.

Is he alone there? Or is it just Kespa jail?

He's reading The Count of Monte Cristo there, gathering knowledge and inspiration
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
February 18 2016 13:31 GMT
#1598
Locking this thread for now. Will reopen additional info is available.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
February 18 2016 14:19 GMT
#1599
On February 18 2016 22:31 KadaverBB wrote:
Locking this thread for now. Will reopen additional info is available.

Oh snap. Is it time finally?!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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