EPTCommunity Feedback Update - January 15 - Page 3
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Kokujin
United States456 Posts
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Ha_K
United States7 Posts
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Empirimancer
Canada1024 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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adMachine
Australia54 Posts
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BronzeKnee
United States5218 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On January 16 2016 15:19 Empirimancer wrote: Uhhh, please don't nerf sieged tank pickup! It may be bad for mech in TvT, but it's become an essential part of TvZ, and even some TvP. Of course I guess it could work if tanks were buffed to compensate, but it will be hard to think of a buff that makes up for the mobility granted by tankivacs. Dunno, make it so A FUCKING TANK NAILED TO THE GROUND BECAUSE THE RECOIL IS THAT MASSIVE deals more than 35 damage to a tiny zergling or an ugly Ravager. | ||
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HellHound
Bulgaria5962 Posts
On January 16 2016 11:27 A_needle_jog wrote: What I find very strong is Marine+ Marauder + Banshee to easy defend Roach Ravager. I think once terran learn to read drone timings they are getting better at defending roach ravager pushes. Often when I play versus Terran they don't scout and then I am at his doorstep and he is standing in cold shower. Terran build 50 scv, but zerg stopped at 30 and built units to attack. When scout no problem. I always scout as much as possible. Information is power !  Then the game would get very boring and no one will play it. | ||
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mCon.Hephaistas
Netherlands891 Posts
On January 16 2016 11:44 TheWinks wrote: No we don't. Korean terrans are all in-ing against Korean zergs rushing to hive tech. That's the primary relationship right now. It's teetering on the edge a blord/infestor sequel should zergs figure out how to consistently get there. Nerfing the tankivac pretty much removes the ability for terran to be out on the map against roach/ravager. It massively harms the ability to defend against roach/ravager timings and even nydus plays. If the predominant philosophy on TvZ late game is going to be 'don't let them get there' then you have to have ways to prevent them from 'getting there.' The tankivac is a huge part of that. Hmm guess we are seeing different games, either zerg allins or has to rush hive to have a chance of winning, since the midgame is really terran favored and zerg has no reliable way to deal with speedvacs. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
On January 16 2016 15:19 Empirimancer wrote: Uhhh, please don't nerf sieged tank pickup! It may be bad for mech in TvT, but it's become an essential part of TvZ, and even some TvP. Of course I guess it could work if tanks were buffed to compensate, but it will be hard to think of a buff that makes up for the mobility granted by tankivacs. Mom, don't take away our toys!  The siege tank will still be better in Legacy of the Void than it was in Heart of the Swarm even if its synergy with the medivac is dialed down a bit. Of course the game itself has also changed to become more dynamic, which does not play to the unit's strength. Nevertheless, any sort of absurdly strong aspect of a race will quickly become indispensable, but that's no excuse to be circumspect, especially this early in the game. It's better to identify these things now and change them now instead of waiting until balance has stabilized. We already know it's problematic, so why not address it? And if siege tanks are now necessary to deal with disruptors and ravagers, I'd remind you that those units are also still in flux and subject to frequent change / evaluation. This sort of mentality of we need this broken unit to deal with the other broken units, so Blizzard pls don't touch it will just result in the game becoming perpetually worse. On January 16 2016 11:31 TheWinks wrote: In the face of things like ravagers, disruptors, and adepts, this is not the time to nerf tankivacs. There are untouched mech units that can be changed to help mech in both tvt and the other matchups. The hellion, the hellbat, the thor, the viking. If terran were overpowered, we can throw changing the medivac/tank relationship on the table. It's not like we're going to be seeing a lot of tvts anyway  Typically one out of three games you play will be a mirror while balance problems are usually not that significant on the ladder. Do you want to design the game purely around pro level play or is the integrity of the game for the other 99+% of players also relevant? | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
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MockHamill
Sweden1798 Posts
Since mech struggles in all matchups I suggest either a) Increase tank damage in siege mode b) Decrease the cost of factories Adept change is of course necessary,it should have been done a long time ago. | ||
Poopi
France12906 Posts
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
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Nazara
United Kingdom235 Posts
Possible changes maybe week after that. No mention of any other changes at all. That is 2+ weeks of the game still being in piss poor state. Are they still on holiday break or something? | ||
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imre
France9263 Posts
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Killmouse
Austria5700 Posts
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m4ini
4215 Posts
And yes, it makes TvT stupid. Removing it without compensating for the other match ups though is dumb. | ||
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