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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
November 14 2015 22:01 GMT
#41
On November 15 2015 06:59 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Does anyone have a good strategy for beating this without using Kerrigan on hard (for the achievement)? Artanis is a completely useless piece of shit that dies to literally every single attack without my help, so I continuously get spread too thin to build enough defense on any entrance.

I don't follow. The achievement I see is to use Kerrrigan, not to not use her?
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-14 22:28:54
November 14 2015 22:27 GMT
#42
On November 15 2015 07:01 lestye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2015 06:59 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Does anyone have a good strategy for beating this without using Kerrigan on hard (for the achievement)? Artanis is a completely useless piece of shit that dies to literally every single attack without my help, so I continuously get spread too thin to build enough defense on any entrance.

I don't follow. The achievement I see is to use Kerrrigan, not to not use her?


The mastery achievement is to get 15 or less kills with Kerrigan while beating it on hard. I was finally able to do it, but it took umpteen reloads. I ended up with a couple PF's and tanks at Artanis's base until 65% or so, and I used Banshees to help Zagara until the same time frame. Then I just kept throwing up Bunkers and mass-producing Marines, Tanks, and Vikings until the end, where my base was overrun but I had enough time to win.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
A_Scarecrow
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia721 Posts
November 15 2015 00:38 GMT
#43
its odd i found this harder than the last mission on aiur on brutal. i should be able to finish it to night only played it twice so far.
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
November 15 2015 06:19 GMT
#44
This mission is kicking my ass on brutal. Maybe because I've gotten so used to playing Protoss over the past few days and Terran is breaking my brain, but I can only make it to about ~65% before everything goes to crap. I'm just trying to use static defense with a mobile MMM and tanks, but it just doesn't seem to be working for me.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
November 15 2015 12:35 GMT
#45
On November 15 2015 15:19 DinosaurJones wrote:
This mission is kicking my ass on brutal. Maybe because I've gotten so used to playing Protoss over the past few days and Terran is breaking my brain, but I can only make it to about ~65% before everything goes to crap. I'm just trying to use static defense with a mobile MMM and tanks, but it just doesn't seem to be working for me.


Same. My best try is 90%. Allies (Artanis, swarm, etc) are too weak to defend themselves early which is crucial to have a good start.
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
November 15 2015 14:34 GMT
#46
Whoever said "Make ghosts", you're the man. Loaded a save around ~50% and just started pumping out spectres. Completely turned my game around. Didn't even come close to losing a nexus.
Cereal
Nyrr
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands36 Posts
November 15 2015 14:54 GMT
#47
Spectres, Marines, Tanks and Planetaries. Least favorite mission in the entirety of the campaign (although it might have something to do with playing Terran).
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
November 15 2015 15:39 GMT
#48
I won this by using Kerrigan on big units and just pure MMM on brutal.
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
November 15 2015 15:57 GMT
#49
On November 16 2015 00:39 Nerchio wrote:
I won this by using Kerrigan on big units and just pure MMM on brutal.


Haha, we should probably have a special difficulty level meant for progamers.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Reptilia
Profile Joined June 2010
Chile913 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-15 16:42:47
November 15 2015 16:42 GMT
#50
i won this easily without loosing much just by massing tanks and turrets. Use kerrigan to kill battlecruisers, broodlords and carriers. Make sure to use merc tanks as they are op
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
November 15 2015 17:02 GMT
#51
On November 16 2015 01:42 Reptilia wrote:
i won this easily without loosing much just by massing tanks and turrets. Use kerrigan to kill battlecruisers, broodlords and carriers. Make sure to use merc tanks as they are op


Tanks are so hard to mass early that I doubt this works on Brutal mode.
Reptilia
Profile Joined June 2010
Chile913 Posts
November 15 2015 17:21 GMT
#52
On November 16 2015 02:02 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 01:42 Reptilia wrote:
i won this easily without loosing much just by massing tanks and turrets. Use kerrigan to kill battlecruisers, broodlords and carriers. Make sure to use merc tanks as they are op


Tanks are so hard to mass early that I doubt this works on Brutal mode.



it was on brutal, for early game get a few marines to fill bunkers and use kerrigan power to survive. Then you have to be very fast in killing air units specially broodlords carriers and battlecruisers. Obviously you should expand asap and get the gases immediately.
The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
November 15 2015 17:37 GMT
#53
welp, got a full night's rest, and I'm about to try the ghost strat. Let's see!
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
November 15 2015 17:45 GMT
#54
huh you can use kerrigan? I didnt know since we have to protect her.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
DinosaurJones
Profile Joined February 2012
United States1000 Posts
November 15 2015 18:16 GMT
#55
Wow, Ghosts/Spectres busted this mission wide open. I still lost Artanis, because he basically has no defense, but overall, it was actually pretty easy.
cheekymonkey
Profile Joined January 2014
France1387 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-16 02:06:33
November 16 2015 02:04 GMT
#56
BC's are pretty powerful in this mission IMO (brutal difficulty). Lost Artanis base 5 seconds before the end, but I had like 5k minerals in the bank so I'm pretty sure I can load it up at some point and put up some PF's there to delay it.
azzu
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany141 Posts
November 16 2015 13:48 GMT
#57
Small trick: you can destroy your allies assimilators with your units and get that sweet, sweet gas for yourself since you have automated refineries.
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
November 16 2015 17:26 GMT
#58
On November 16 2015 22:48 azzu wrote:
Small trick: you can destroy your allies assimilators with your units and get that sweet, sweet gas for yourself since you have automated refineries.


You are a wondeful asshole!
AkiZenko
Profile Joined November 2015
Canada14 Posts
November 16 2015 18:24 GMT
#59
On November 16 2015 22:48 azzu wrote:
Small trick: you can destroy your allies assimilators with your units and get that sweet, sweet gas for yourself since you have automated refineries.


And now thanks to you, I was able to complete the only mission I couldn't do on brutal. Thanks!
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
November 16 2015 18:28 GMT
#60
Brutal difficulty -

Actually found this mission harder than the last one. My strat was use Kerrigan to kill all the big units (tanks, thors, bcs, colossi, etc). Took a fast expand, 3 bunkers with 6 tanks and 6 SCVs at each ramp, placed PFs with 8 tanks at artanis and then some PFs for backup around kerrigan. Massed Turrets around her also just in case. A roaming mass of 15 banchees and 15 vikings to clean up (mostly to help zerg). Kept all 3 bases up.
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