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Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
May 28 2015 16:05 GMT
#161
On May 29 2015 00:28 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2015 23:34 Shinespark wrote:
I hate to say this, but this is a very bad sign about the state of SC2 right now....
Even if HSC gets twice the money it asked for, the fact that crowdfunding was necessary in the first place is worrisome


This is not exactly a breaking development in SC2. The scene is supported by the rich and generous.

Could you please give me some other examples of this in SC2? I only follow the GSL and sometimes proleague, and as far as I know, they're funded entirely by sponsors and suscription sales and the like.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44461 Posts
May 28 2015 16:24 GMT
#162
$1,200 more gogogo!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44461 Posts
May 28 2015 16:25 GMT
#163
On May 29 2015 01:05 Shinespark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 00:28 Doodsmack wrote:
On May 28 2015 23:34 Shinespark wrote:
I hate to say this, but this is a very bad sign about the state of SC2 right now....
Even if HSC gets twice the money it asked for, the fact that crowdfunding was necessary in the first place is worrisome


This is not exactly a breaking development in SC2. The scene is supported by the rich and generous.

Could you please give me some other examples of this in SC2? I only follow the GSL and sometimes proleague, and as far as I know, they're funded entirely by sponsors and suscription sales and the like.


Didn't Destiny have a tournament where people donated towards the prize pool? Also, general grassroots tournaments don't always need to have sponsors, or else no one would ever take initiative without a huge contributor. This isn't abnormal.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
May 28 2015 16:29 GMT
#164
On May 29 2015 01:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 01:05 Shinespark wrote:
On May 29 2015 00:28 Doodsmack wrote:
On May 28 2015 23:34 Shinespark wrote:
I hate to say this, but this is a very bad sign about the state of SC2 right now....
Even if HSC gets twice the money it asked for, the fact that crowdfunding was necessary in the first place is worrisome


This is not exactly a breaking development in SC2. The scene is supported by the rich and generous.

Could you please give me some other examples of this in SC2? I only follow the GSL and sometimes proleague, and as far as I know, they're funded entirely by sponsors and suscription sales and the like.


Didn't Destiny have a tournament where people donated towards the prize pool? Also, general grassroots tournaments don't always need to have sponsors, or else no one would ever take initiative without a huge contributor. This isn't abnormal.

Now that I think about it, maybe Lone Star Clash was like this kind of thing.
I'm not saying crowdfunding is bad, but I do worry that sponsors are leaving. Besides, living on crowdfunding may not be sustainable, I don't know. I do know sponsors are a tried and true business model.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44461 Posts
May 28 2015 16:30 GMT
#165
On May 29 2015 01:29 Shinespark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 01:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 29 2015 01:05 Shinespark wrote:
On May 29 2015 00:28 Doodsmack wrote:
On May 28 2015 23:34 Shinespark wrote:
I hate to say this, but this is a very bad sign about the state of SC2 right now....
Even if HSC gets twice the money it asked for, the fact that crowdfunding was necessary in the first place is worrisome


This is not exactly a breaking development in SC2. The scene is supported by the rich and generous.

Could you please give me some other examples of this in SC2? I only follow the GSL and sometimes proleague, and as far as I know, they're funded entirely by sponsors and suscription sales and the like.


Didn't Destiny have a tournament where people donated towards the prize pool? Also, general grassroots tournaments don't always need to have sponsors, or else no one would ever take initiative without a huge contributor. This isn't abnormal.

Now that I think about it, maybe Lone Star Clash was like this kind of thing.
I'm not saying crowdfunding is bad, but I do worry that sponsors are leaving. Besides, living on crowdfunding may not be sustainable, I don't know. I do know sponsors are a tried and true business model.


Sure, but it's not like there's a HSC every month Plus, I think that LotV's release will inject new enthusiasm from the community and sponsors. I wouldn't worry too much
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Shinespark
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile843 Posts
May 28 2015 16:34 GMT
#166
On May 29 2015 01:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 01:29 Shinespark wrote:
On May 29 2015 01:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 29 2015 01:05 Shinespark wrote:
On May 29 2015 00:28 Doodsmack wrote:
On May 28 2015 23:34 Shinespark wrote:
I hate to say this, but this is a very bad sign about the state of SC2 right now....
Even if HSC gets twice the money it asked for, the fact that crowdfunding was necessary in the first place is worrisome


This is not exactly a breaking development in SC2. The scene is supported by the rich and generous.

Could you please give me some other examples of this in SC2? I only follow the GSL and sometimes proleague, and as far as I know, they're funded entirely by sponsors and suscription sales and the like.


Didn't Destiny have a tournament where people donated towards the prize pool? Also, general grassroots tournaments don't always need to have sponsors, or else no one would ever take initiative without a huge contributor. This isn't abnormal.

Now that I think about it, maybe Lone Star Clash was like this kind of thing.
I'm not saying crowdfunding is bad, but I do worry that sponsors are leaving. Besides, living on crowdfunding may not be sustainable, I don't know. I do know sponsors are a tried and true business model.


Sure, but it's not like there's a HSC every month Plus, I think that LotV's release will inject new enthusiasm from the community and sponsors. I wouldn't worry too much

We thought the same about HOTS and now look... sponsors leaving, people retiring left and right, teams disbanded, the GSL hasn't had a finals outside the studio in like 5 seasons now, smaller prizes, etc.
"I, for one, welcome our new Korean overlords."
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4135 Posts
May 28 2015 17:02 GMT
#167
On May 29 2015 01:34 Shinespark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 01:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 29 2015 01:29 Shinespark wrote:
On May 29 2015 01:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 29 2015 01:05 Shinespark wrote:
On May 29 2015 00:28 Doodsmack wrote:
On May 28 2015 23:34 Shinespark wrote:
I hate to say this, but this is a very bad sign about the state of SC2 right now....
Even if HSC gets twice the money it asked for, the fact that crowdfunding was necessary in the first place is worrisome


This is not exactly a breaking development in SC2. The scene is supported by the rich and generous.

Could you please give me some other examples of this in SC2? I only follow the GSL and sometimes proleague, and as far as I know, they're funded entirely by sponsors and suscription sales and the like.


Didn't Destiny have a tournament where people donated towards the prize pool? Also, general grassroots tournaments don't always need to have sponsors, or else no one would ever take initiative without a huge contributor. This isn't abnormal.

Now that I think about it, maybe Lone Star Clash was like this kind of thing.
I'm not saying crowdfunding is bad, but I do worry that sponsors are leaving. Besides, living on crowdfunding may not be sustainable, I don't know. I do know sponsors are a tried and true business model.


Sure, but it's not like there's a HSC every month Plus, I think that LotV's release will inject new enthusiasm from the community and sponsors. I wouldn't worry too much

We thought the same about HOTS and now look... sponsors leaving, people retiring left and right, teams disbanded, the GSL hasn't had a finals outside the studio in like 5 seasons now, smaller prizes, etc.

I rather think WCS is the main reason for that, not HotS. Sponsors want their own thing but they cant since WCS points are more relevant than anything else( even weekend tournament itself!) . I also complained about this dependence few years ago. WCS points/tier relevance hurts weekend tournaments.
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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
May 28 2015 17:07 GMT
#168
On May 29 2015 01:05 Shinespark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 00:28 Doodsmack wrote:
On May 28 2015 23:34 Shinespark wrote:
I hate to say this, but this is a very bad sign about the state of SC2 right now....
Even if HSC gets twice the money it asked for, the fact that crowdfunding was necessary in the first place is worrisome


This is not exactly a breaking development in SC2. The scene is supported by the rich and generous.

Could you please give me some other examples of this in SC2? I only follow the GSL and sometimes proleague, and as far as I know, they're funded entirely by sponsors and suscription sales and the like.


Basically a lot of tournaments other than GSL and Proleague. Although, it's likely that Blizzard has been propping up GSL and contributing to its prizepool since the very beginning of SC2. Streamers also depend on subscribers now.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 17:07:57
May 28 2015 17:07 GMT
#169
edit; wrong thread
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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
May 28 2015 19:55 GMT
#170
12,5k achieved just toady. Please 2,5k more at least!
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-28 19:56:49
May 28 2015 19:56 GMT
#171
On May 29 2015 01:34 Shinespark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2015 01:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 29 2015 01:29 Shinespark wrote:
On May 29 2015 01:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On May 29 2015 01:05 Shinespark wrote:
On May 29 2015 00:28 Doodsmack wrote:
On May 28 2015 23:34 Shinespark wrote:
I hate to say this, but this is a very bad sign about the state of SC2 right now....
Even if HSC gets twice the money it asked for, the fact that crowdfunding was necessary in the first place is worrisome


This is not exactly a breaking development in SC2. The scene is supported by the rich and generous.

Could you please give me some other examples of this in SC2? I only follow the GSL and sometimes proleague, and as far as I know, they're funded entirely by sponsors and suscription sales and the like.


Didn't Destiny have a tournament where people donated towards the prize pool? Also, general grassroots tournaments don't always need to have sponsors, or else no one would ever take initiative without a huge contributor. This isn't abnormal.

Now that I think about it, maybe Lone Star Clash was like this kind of thing.
I'm not saying crowdfunding is bad, but I do worry that sponsors are leaving. Besides, living on crowdfunding may not be sustainable, I don't know. I do know sponsors are a tried and true business model.


Sure, but it's not like there's a HSC every month Plus, I think that LotV's release will inject new enthusiasm from the community and sponsors. I wouldn't worry too much

We thought the same about HOTS and now look... sponsors leaving, people retiring left and right, teams disbanded, the GSL hasn't had a finals outside the studio in like 5 seasons now, smaller prizes, etc.


This... really isn't a very fair representation.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
May 28 2015 20:50 GMT
#172
I'm so happy they got their goal so quickly, let's hope they hit 20k!
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
UberNuB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States365 Posts
May 28 2015 21:18 GMT
#173
Didn't they do a crowd funding to move into a massive studio like a year ago?

I mean, I am glad they are getting funding, as HSC is arguably the most entertaining SC tournament, but seems like they don't manage their assets correctly and the community is being punished for it and not the organization.
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
May 28 2015 21:25 GMT
#174
wow that was quick, I hope we get the 17,5k goal.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
May 28 2015 21:32 GMT
#175
On May 29 2015 06:18 UberNuB wrote:
Didn't they do a crowd funding to move into a massive studio like a year ago?

I mean, I am glad they are getting funding, as HSC is arguably the most entertaining SC tournament, but seems like they don't manage their assets correctly and the community is being punished for it and not the organization.


Why is the community getting punished? You can manage your assets as good as you want. If suddenly your main sponsor drops who is absolutely needed for your tournament you will have a problem.

I'm sorry if I misunderstood your sentence... my English isn't that good
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
May 28 2015 21:35 GMT
#176
I saw this post very early, and was doubting if it would make it to 12.5k. My thoughts have been put to shame. Wp community!
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TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
May 28 2015 21:37 GMT
#177
Take also said on Reddit that they will add further perks, but that they need to discuss what they want to do first
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Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
May 28 2015 21:44 GMT
#178
I was wondering whether to donate or not, but when I read funding was for partying, drinks and what not, then I gave up. I rarely watch SC2 anyway. I'll be happy to donate a bit for a more honourable cause though.
XPA
Profile Joined January 2013
Germany242 Posts
May 28 2015 22:27 GMT
#179
On May 29 2015 06:18 UberNuB wrote:
Didn't they do a crowd funding to move into a massive studio like a year ago?

I mean, I am glad they are getting funding, as HSC is arguably the most entertaining SC tournament, but seems like they don't manage their assets correctly and the community is being punished for it and not the organization.


I´m pretty they said that the crowdfunding for the studio was just for people willing to help them und to add bonus stuff. They would have moved anyway.
For the HSC thing I doubt you can really blame them. I mean if they don´t get enough sponsors there is nothing you can do. And it´s not like they already spend money they don´t have.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
May 28 2015 23:29 GMT
#180
On May 29 2015 06:18 UberNuB wrote:
Didn't they do a crowd funding to move into a massive studio like a year ago?

I mean, I am glad they are getting funding, as HSC is arguably the most entertaining SC tournament, but seems like they don't manage their assets correctly and the community is being punished for it and not the organization.


Thats the beauty of crowdfunding - you don't actually have to pay if you don't want to.
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