EPTBig ladder reset? - Page 5
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KingAlphard
Italy1705 Posts
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LordOfDabu
United States394 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12240 Posts
On April 18 2015 10:11 LordOfDabu wrote: I got promoted to diamond on game 25 and then to masters on game 26. I've never seen back to back promotions like that before! That became possible ever since they took out the "skipping a league" thing. | ||
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HelpMeGetBetter
United States764 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
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Mendelfist
Sweden356 Posts
On April 18 2015 09:31 KingAlphard wrote: It's not a reset at all. The mmr stayed same but you had a wider range of opponents and mmr shifted more quickly during the first games. That's effectively a reset. Your MMR will make huge jumps during your placement matches, and you are playing against people with equally volatile MMRs. | ||
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KingAlphard
Italy1705 Posts
On April 18 2015 17:22 Mendelfist wrote: That's effectively a reset. Your MMR will make huge jumps during your placement matches, and you are playing against people with equally volatile MMRs. How is it possible that I haven't played anyone below diamond league since the start of the season? I'm talking about season 2 league, not season 1, so they had to have fairly high MMRs. Normally when you start on a fresh account you only play against silver-gold leaguers. | ||
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NiDoXiD
Germany28 Posts
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velvex
Germany226 Posts
On April 18 2015 09:28 Excalibur_Z wrote: Nios doesn't help with that at all, it's literally completely irrelevant for that purpose. Why's that? | ||
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Fibbz
Germany62 Posts
It just seems that there are too many promotions at the time. Especially because they go out to the wrong people. Sure we should give it some more time to fully kick in, but even now I play low masters again who should not be there. I still think bringing back demotions would solve most of the problem. We could be in the situation again, where everybody can get up to masters easily and leagues do not mean anything anymore. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
On April 18 2015 23:41 KingAlphard wrote: How is it possible that I haven't played anyone below diamond league since the start of the season? I'm talking about season 2 league, not season 1, so they had to have fairly high MMRs. Normally when you start on a fresh account you only play against silver-gold leaguers. Yeah it wasn't a reset. Every player I was matched against so far (25 games) was diamond or master last season. | ||
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scpotatomaster
Ireland1 Post
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TelecoM
United States10691 Posts
EDIT : Or maybe people getting to Masters after a few weeks will once again become a problem because of the amount of promotions we are seeing now? | ||
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schu_22
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Went 3-2 in placement, beat two silvers and a gold. Got placed in bronze. Since then I've been matched against gold and plat players and can't win a game. WTF Blizzard? I know I suck, but let me have some fun here | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12240 Posts
Because Nios (and SC2Ranks and all the other scraper sites) only reports how many points each player has in their division and that doesn't tell you anything about someone's "current ranking" or whether they're close to a promotion. Player A plays his placement matches and finishes with 1500 MMR. Player B plays his placement matches and finishes with 1200 MMR. Both are placed into Diamond. The Master boundary is 1550. Player A needs much fewer wins, and will therefore collect much fewer points, before getting promoted to Master. Player B will appear to be a much better player especially if he plays more often, because he'll get a lot of free points from bonus pool and grinding out wins, even though his MMR is much lower. Reddit starts a pitchfork campaign when Player A gets his "undeserved promotion" much earlier than Player B, who may never even get it at all because 350 rating is a long way to go. (I'm deliberately simplifying this example and not mentioning the calibration phase stuff) Then there are the other effects Nios has on people, like "you have to have X points to get promoted" or "you have to be Top X on the server to get promoted" and it's much more nuanced and complex than that. But, because it's the only source of global rankings that we have, people are bound to draw those conclusions. On April 19 2015 03:16 schu_22 wrote: Was silver. Went 3-2 in placement, beat two silvers and a gold. Got placed in bronze. Since then I've been matched against gold and plat players and can't win a game. WTF Blizzard? I know I suck, but let me have some fun here Sounds like you're actually Silver, or maybe Gold, but your league placement was conservative (as was everyone's this season). Your league icon should reflect that after around 25 total games played. | ||
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velvex
Germany226 Posts
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Mistakes
United States1102 Posts
On April 18 2015 10:11 LordOfDabu wrote: I got promoted to diamond on game 25 and then to masters on game 26. I've never seen back to back promotions like that before! Wow. I have a friend who is high GM NA, GM EU, GM KR. Currently 58-0 on NA, still in Diamond. | ||
NonY
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
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