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Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 09:14:53
April 15 2015 09:00 GMT
#1
So last season went on for a couple days more than it was supposed to.

Then this morning when eventually season starts on EU server, we have 5 placement games to get a league.

Plat friend of mine didn't play them serioulsy trying stupid stuff, he's now in silver league (lol!)

it looks like everything has been reset in order to fix the league distribution we had.

Is it a fresh start from scratch for everybody? will we have this for every new season?

Personnaly I'm ok with this, if it can open leagues more...

(I read nothing on the matter, if I missed a post or if this was announced already please ignore my post...)

(edit : terrible enlgish)

(edit 2 : update on my firend, he didn't play silly actually he won 4/5 games, still in silver, really looks like a major league reset)


Panda Edit:
Hey everyone,

As previously mentioned, we’ve been working on some additional ladder changes for Season 2. With the new season now live for almost all regions, we’re keeping a close eye on how these updates are working out as players are ranked in the new season. One immediate change that some players may notice is an increase of placement matches in some regions. While some players may find that their ladder rating has shifted, we are compensating for this shift by making it easier for these players to place into higher leagues with fewer wins. Please give the new promotion changes a chance to adjust to the current skill and developing skill of players in this new season.

We’ll be closely monitoring ladder functionality to determine if any further changes are needed and we’re definitely interested in hearing about your experiences in the new season. In the next couple of weeks, we’ll also be releasing further details on the exact changes that occurred for the new season so everyone can have a clear understanding of how the system changed.

Source: Battle Net
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 15 2015 09:04 GMT
#2
Yeah, the nios rankings brutally changed when I was looking at them
WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
April 15 2015 09:09 GMT
#3
That would be awesome!
Time to start playing again :D
tar
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany991 Posts
April 15 2015 09:09 GMT
#4
Placement is only one game for me. I wonder if this only affects people with MMR decay.
whoever I pick for my anti team turns gosu
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
April 15 2015 09:10 GMT
#5
google first pls
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/17070316886
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Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 09:25:06
April 15 2015 09:14 GMT
#6
On April 15 2015 18:09 tar wrote:
Placement is only one game for me. I wonder if this only affects people with MMR decay.

Just one game for me too. Disappointing.. I was all pumped up to start playing random with fresh MMR .



Edit:
On April 15 2015 18:18 flyleaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 18:09 tar wrote:
Placement is only one game for me. I wonder if this only affects people with MMR decay.

Did you actually play the game already? Some people are reporting after they played the placement game it changed and told them to play more placement games.


I'll play a game to see what happens. will report back in 10 minutes.

Played a game, will have to play 4 more games now in order to get ranked. They also finally fixed the match history screen.
flyleaf
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany89 Posts
April 15 2015 09:18 GMT
#7
On April 15 2015 18:09 tar wrote:
Placement is only one game for me. I wonder if this only affects people with MMR decay.

Did you actually play the game already? Some people are reporting after they played the placement game it changed and told them to play more placement games.
-Kyo-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan1926 Posts
April 15 2015 09:20 GMT
#8
So I played a guy on EU who was diamond last season and he lost his game to my acc which was silver last season (though it had very high MMR in comparison.. I was playing masters and even a person who was top 120 GM the season before). He got his rank and he went from diamond to silver................... holy shit i'd be angry @_@:;

That said, I finished my matches and even though, as I mentioned above, I was playing much higher rated players before the season ended I ended up in platinum.....

Currently the account I am playing under has a ~50 game win streak...
blizzard.. pls... @_@
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KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
April 15 2015 09:21 GMT
#9
Did you guys actually play or are you only reading the text in the matchmaking screen? Cause it says 1 game for me too but it's probably just wrong. Can't play now to test it sadly.

It looks like nobody in EU is masters league right now.
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
April 15 2015 09:22 GMT
#10
On April 15 2015 18:21 KingAlphard wrote:
Did you guys actually play or are you only reading the text in the matchmaking screen? Cause it says 1 game for me too but it's probably just wrong. Can't play now to test it sadly.

It looks like nobody in EU is masters league right now.

If you play 1 game it changes and says you have to play 5
I love hellbats
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 09:25:33
April 15 2015 09:23 GMT
#11
On April 15 2015 18:14 Bojas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 18:09 tar wrote:
Placement is only one game for me. I wonder if this only affects people with MMR decay.

Just one game for me too. Disappointing.. I was all pumped up to start playing random with fresh MMR .



Edit:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 18:18 flyleaf wrote:
On April 15 2015 18:09 tar wrote:
Placement is only one game for me. I wonder if this only affects people with MMR decay.

Did you actually play the game already? Some people are reporting after they played the placement game it changed and told them to play more placement games.


I'll play a game to see what happens. will report back in 10 minutes.


it's not MMR decay related, I played a lot of ranked games last season upuntil yesterday....


I don't know what it said initially though (1 or 5 games) , I just read placement match and clicked on play, it's only when I got no league at the end of my games that I realised something was not as usual
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
April 15 2015 09:24 GMT
#12
Yeah i just played a really high ranked dude who had beaten pros like Snute and the game after i played a guy who was gold last season. I was high master last season so it seems like they reset everything T_T
I love hellbats
tar
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany991 Posts
April 15 2015 09:33 GMT
#13
On April 15 2015 18:21 KingAlphard wrote:
Did you guys actually play or are you only reading the text in the matchmaking screen? Cause it says 1 game for me too but it's probably just wrong. Can't play now to test it sadly.

It looks like nobody in EU is masters league right now.


Just read it and unfortunately, can't play atm either. I am really looking forward to this though, even so I am already seeing myself down in plat/gold. At least that would set a reachable goal to get back to diamond since masters is clearly out of my reach and has been so for the past 2 years.
whoever I pick for my anti team turns gosu
JameserinoBonderino
Profile Joined April 2015
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 09:40:01
April 15 2015 09:37 GMT
#14
I played 4 times against Diamond players and once vs a legit Bronze...
I won 50% vs all the diamond, got place into platnium.

Edit : seems like a hard reset to me
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
April 15 2015 09:43 GMT
#15
It looks like there is 1 master league division. It contains only 8 players, all of them have at least 25+ games.
flyleaf
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany89 Posts
April 15 2015 09:45 GMT
#16
On April 15 2015 18:43 KingAlphard wrote:
It looks like there is 1 master league division. It contains only 8 players, all of them have at least 25+ games.

You checked ingame or is there any website which is already updated?
Vanadiel
Profile Joined April 2012
France961 Posts
April 15 2015 09:46 GMT
#17
I looked this morning on my contact list. I think PtitDrogo has gone from top GM to diamond. So, yeah, I guess. :D
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
April 15 2015 09:47 GMT
#18
On April 15 2015 18:45 flyleaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 18:43 KingAlphard wrote:
It looks like there is 1 master league division. It contains only 8 players, all of them have at least 25+ games.

You checked ingame or is there any website which is already updated?

I found it in game.
By the way, none of them was gm last season and some of them even have bad winrates this season.
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 10:03:00
April 15 2015 09:48 GMT
#19
On April 15 2015 18:43 KingAlphard wrote:
It looks like there is 1 master league division. It contains only 8 players, all of them have at least 25+ games.

To get promoted to master requires at minimum of 25 games after starting from blank MMR (this includes the 5 placement matches). The MMR can rise to master range much faster, but the 25th match is the first possibility to get promoted (if you win that match as promotions only happen won games).

But if they have made a full MMR reset for everyone, it is a great news. At the start of this season they disabled MMR decay. But the damage was already done (2 years worth of MMR decay and several threshold adjustments). It would take a long long time for ladder to get healthy via natural way. But via full reset people's MMRs find their correct range much faster. This is due that MMR changes rapidly after a blank start. Another benefit would be that they could restore old MMR ranges / thresholds. MMR ranges for most leagues were almost similar in the old days. But after several threshold adjustments the MMR ranges for some leagues became quite abnormal. For example the diamond league became huge (and usually took 40+ victories more than loses to get from bottom of diamond to bottom of master).
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
April 15 2015 09:52 GMT
#20
On April 15 2015 18:48 korona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 18:43 KingAlphard wrote:
It looks like there is 1 master league division. It contains only 8 players, all of them have at least 25+ games.

To get promoted to master requires at minimum of 25 games after starting from blank MMR (this includes the 5 placement matches). The MMR can rise to master range much faster, but the 25th match is the first possibility to get promoted (if you win that match as promotions only happen won games).


That's interesting, didn't know about that. Well that explains it I guess, very few people have already played 25+games (and some of them don't have masters mmr ofc).
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