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LordYama
United States370 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12248 Posts
On April 23 2015 06:00 LordYama wrote: I'm confused. Can someone explain to me how "leaving league" allows you to pump up your MMR? I'm not seeing it at all. When you "leave league" don't you still carry the (hidden) MMR number with you? How is it influenced at all by your leaving? When you have to play 5 placement matches, you are thrust back into rating calibration where your MMR changes more dramatically for wins and losses. Usually this comes with an MMR wipe, but not this season. Calibration lasts for, by Korona's estimate, between 25 and 35 games. These guys posit that if you hit Leave League, you go back to 5 placement matches and you re-enter the calibration phase, which could in theory allow you to take longer strides with each game played toward your target rating. Note that the expected result of hitting Leave League is to play only 1 placement match and have your MMR change only as much as that single match. I believe that it's probably logical to still allow 5 placement matches for players who have less than 25-35 games played, since they'd already be in calibration. Has anyone tested Leave League with more than 35 games played this season? | ||
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`dunedain
657 Posts
On April 23 2015 07:07 Excalibur_Z wrote: When you have to play 5 placement matches, you are thrust back into rating calibration where your MMR changes more dramatically for wins and losses. Usually this comes with an MMR wipe, but not this season. Calibration lasts for, by Korona's estimate, between 25 and 35 games. These guys posit that if you hit Leave League, you go back to 5 placement matches and you re-enter the calibration phase, which could in theory allow you to take longer strides with each game played toward your target rating. Note that the expected result of hitting Leave League is to play only 1 placement match and have your MMR change only as much as that single match. I believe that it's probably logical to still allow 5 placement matches for players who have less than 25-35 games played, since they'd already be in calibration. Has anyone tested Leave League with more than 35 games played this season? Yes, an in-game friend of mine has over 500+ games now and has hit leave league multiple times. Every time having to re-play the 5 initial placement matches. MMR doesn't change from the last people that he played before hitting leave league. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24239 Posts
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Magnifico
1958 Posts
On April 24 2015 06:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: Does someone have the slightest idea why MaNa, Guru, PtitDrogo, NaNiwa and many others are stuck in freaking diamond ? I get that GM league is full, but man, how can they not get a promotion to masters with 800+ pts after a week while some really awful players got the promotion very quick ? In my opinion this whole situation is very funny. | ||
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PinoKotsBeer
Netherlands1385 Posts
On April 24 2015 06:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: Does someone have the slightest idea why MaNa, Guru, PtitDrogo, NaNiwa and many others are stuck in freaking diamond ? I get that GM league is full, but man, how can they not get a promotion to masters with 800+ pts after a week while some really awful players got the promotion very quick ? ForGG as well, on EU and NA account. Beating GM's but losing to some diamonds (prob gm's as well) The ladder is fucked atm. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10743 Posts
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neteX
Sweden285 Posts
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neteX
Sweden285 Posts
On April 24 2015 06:48 GGzerG wrote: I got GM with what acc? link | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24239 Posts
On April 24 2015 06:47 PinoKotsBeer wrote: ForGG as well, on EU and NA account. Beating GM's but losing to some diamonds (prob gm's as well) The ladder is fucked atm. It's really strange yeah, my take on it would be that GM and master league are full so that those people will be stuck in diamond until more players do their placement matches this season... I wonder if they would get into masters if they left league by the way. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On April 23 2015 06:00 LordYama wrote: I'm confused. Can someone explain to me how "leaving league" allows you to pump up your MMR? I'm not seeing it at all. When you "leave league" don't you still carry the (hidden) MMR number with you? How is it influenced at all by your leaving? AFAIK it's only really useful when the ladder is locked. When they first unlocked all regions per account I suddenly had 2 EU accounts and 2 NA accounts. I often would only focus on 2. When the ladder locked and I no longer had bonus pool to burn I'd go play a "fresh" account. I'd then do my 5 matches over and over until I got placed in Diamond (get gold, go 10-0, leave league, get plat, go 10-0, leave league, get plat....repeat until diamond etc). On April 24 2015 06:04 [PkF] Wire wrote: Does someone have the slightest idea why MaNa, Guru, PtitDrogo, NaNiwa and many others are stuck in freaking diamond ? I get that GM league is full, but man, how can they not get a promotion to masters with 800+ pts after a week while some really awful players got the promotion very quick ? something's funky... lots of "first time" (since season 1) of GM players according to Azhrak | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12248 Posts
I was also hoping that those players' spots would be reserved since when I looked yesterday GM had 150/200 players, but today it has 198 (and 199 on EU) =( | ||
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PinoKotsBeer
Netherlands1385 Posts
Im facing diamonds who should be in silver and gold players who are tearing me apart. | ||
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insitelol
845 Posts
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Yrr
Germany804 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12248 Posts
On April 25 2015 05:05 insitelol wrote: This is fucking hilarious =) Naniwa is diamond while GM is full with scrubs. And these guys are developing LotV. Ye. And this is happening after they announced they are focusing on fixing ladder. Ye. Impressive. Asking about it. | ||
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KingAlphard
Italy1705 Posts
On April 24 2015 06:42 Tiaraju9 wrote: In my opinion this whole situation is very funny. It's a bit sad cause now GM is a joke this season. It's useless to be in the highest league if most progamers aren't even there. | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12248 Posts
On April 25 2015 07:20 KingAlphard wrote: It's a bit sad cause now GM is a joke this season. It's useless to be in the highest league if most progamers aren't even there. They overshot it. Diamond literally, actually is the new GM this season. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24239 Posts
On April 25 2015 07:29 Excalibur_Z wrote: They overshot it. Diamond literally, actually is the new GM this season. It's really weird. From what I could gather, a lot of players who aren't really GM material got into GM while the awesomeness of some players seems to have made the algorithm bug. Otherwise master league is indeed widely more open (a bit too much ?) and I don't get why they don't get the promotion to at least masters... Still work to be done Blizz ! | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12248 Posts
On April 25 2015 07:34 [PkF] Wire wrote: It's really weird. From what I could gather, a lot of players who aren't really GM material got into GM while the awesomeness of some players seems to have made the algorithm bug. Otherwise master league is indeed widely more open (a bit too much ?) and I don't get why they don't get the promotion to at least masters... Still work to be done Blizz ! Well think about it. If Master league covers a range of like, 2000-2500, and ForGG and Naniwa et al have ratings of 2600+ comfortably in the GM range, they'll stay in whatever their initially assigned league was (in this case, Diamond). Ironically they probably would be promoted into Master league if they dropped down to like 2480 then won a game. As for why they weren't all invited to GM, I have no idea. Both of those things are obviously bugs, but now that GM is filled I don't know how they'll fix them without booting out current GMs. | ||
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