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y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
April 15 2015 09:55 GMT
#21
I didn't play until leagues were locked last season (EU). Placed / played gold. Last night worked my MMR up to playing vs Diamond so I left league and played my placement match into Plat. Today I have 4 placement matches after my first game.

Haven't checked NA (where I was active all season) yet...
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
April 15 2015 10:00 GMT
#22
I was between silver and gold on KR and while it placed me in very low silver, I feel like the opponents I'm playing are much stronger than before.
RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
April 15 2015 10:03 GMT
#23
Blizzard messing up. Again.
Lee Jae Dong fighting!
Wormi
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany181 Posts
April 15 2015 10:08 GMT
#24
after playing some games it feels like a total mmr reset. getting a huge amount of points for wins against pretty weak players. still platinum though. ^^
I´m a real person. Beep beep.
KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
April 15 2015 10:11 GMT
#25
I was worried when I played my placement match this morning against some ex-master Terran (who was Diamond last season) then I saw I still had another 4 matches to go. Guy in question was rather BM because I refused to leave. Will be interesting to see where I end up because I had a shit time in Gold last season and I really want to push for Plat/Diamond this season T_T
Flying on the Jin Air hype plane. Lets go Maru, Rogue, sOs and the handsome CJ herO
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 10:19:41
April 15 2015 10:12 GMT
#26
On April 15 2015 19:03 RHoudini wrote:
Blizzard messing up. Again.

Actually this is not messing up. Full MMR reset for everyone was pretty much the only way to fix the ladder at this point. Last season they announced that they will disable MMR decay. But that would not have fixed (in short term) the messed up ladder situation. It would have only prevented accounts from continuously drifting downwards. It would have taken long time for people's MMRs to find their correct ranges in natural way.

Now we wait if they reset MMRs for all or only for a only subset of players (e.g. those who have faced decay).
Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany804 Posts
April 15 2015 10:19 GMT
#27
On April 15 2015 19:12 korona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 19:03 RHoudini wrote:
Blizzard messing up. Again.

Actually this is not messing up. Full MMR reset for everyone was pretty much the only way to fix the ladder at this point. Last season they announced that they will disable MMR decay. But that would not have fixed (in short term) the messed up ladder situation. It would have only prevented accounts from continuously drifting downwards. It would have taken time for people's MMRs to find their correct ranges in natural way.

Now we wait if they reset MMRs for all or only some subset of players (e.g. those who have faced decay).

Changelog will be released in a few weeks, they definitely have a messed up information policy.
MMR decay is bad, m'kay? | Personal Hero: TerranHwaiting
MorDka
Profile Joined October 2012
Poland543 Posts
April 15 2015 10:32 GMT
#28
Welcome in diamond boys!!!
DanTastiC
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany34 Posts
April 15 2015 10:59 GMT
#29
Isnt this pretty bad for everyone wanting to play in today's WCS EU qualifier since you need a masters account to participate? :O
KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
April 15 2015 11:45 GMT
#30
On April 15 2015 19:59 DanTastiC wrote:
Isnt this pretty bad for everyone wanting to play in today's WCS EU qualifier since you need a masters account to participate? :O


They'll go off last season's league finish.
Flying on the Jin Air hype plane. Lets go Maru, Rogue, sOs and the handsome CJ herO
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24237 Posts
April 15 2015 13:43 GMT
#31
MaNa is playing against bronze players on his stream and has to do 5 placement matches too.
KatatoniK
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom978 Posts
April 15 2015 13:50 GMT
#32
On April 15 2015 22:43 [PkF] Wire wrote:
MaNa is playing against bronze players on his stream and has to do 5 placement matches too.


Poor Bronzies. Even I didn't get a pro during my placements.

I ended up in Silver where so far I've died to 1 base Protoss bullshit and crushed a Terran in PvT. Hopefully I get back into gold pretty quick.
Flying on the Jin Air hype plane. Lets go Maru, Rogue, sOs and the handsome CJ herO
tar
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany991 Posts
April 15 2015 14:22 GMT
#33
So, 5 games it was for me as well and, haha, my last placement match was a PvP against (P)elfi which ended in a blink v blink fight with me attacking rocks below his ramp and then losing my entire mineral line to a 3 stalker counter attack. --> platinum and rightfully so :D
whoever I pick for my anti team turns gosu
iMrising
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States1099 Posts
April 15 2015 14:43 GMT
#34
LOL you played elfi
Lost my first match. It said that there was only 1 game but then there were 4 after that so its prob just a mistake
Still in diamond :1
$O$ | soO
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
April 15 2015 15:02 GMT
#35
5 matches, had to play a diamond in my worst MU (aka TvT), and all that for gold league. RIP.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
April 15 2015 15:30 GMT
#36
Nobody should feel married to their current league after placement from a reset MMR. Calibration-phase MMR is too volatile for your starting league to matter very much. After you've played 20-30 games and you're still in the same league, then that badge will hold some weight.
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tokinho
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States792 Posts
April 15 2015 15:35 GMT
#37
now i wont have time to ladder up to wcs matches................
Smile
dala
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden477 Posts
April 15 2015 19:28 GMT
#38
Blizzard probably tuned the league placement to be very conservative due the no mid-season demotion policy. If it is like that, I would advocate for a return of mid-season league demotions.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 19:33:04
April 15 2015 19:32 GMT
#39
I placed for the first time in ranked US today. Won 4, disconnected in one. I'm now bronze for the first time in my life. It's like hide and seek, the gateways can be anywhere!!!
korona
Profile Joined October 2009
1098 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-15 19:45:11
April 15 2015 19:41 GMT
#40
On April 16 2015 04:28 dala wrote:
Blizzard probably tuned the league placement to be very conservative due the no mid-season demotion policy. If it is like that, I would advocate for a return of mid-season league demotions.

When starting from blank MMR (as the MMRs were reset - 5 placements mean reset, 1 placement means carried MMR) you are placed conservatively. This means you are often (but not always) in lower league than your MMR at that point is (promotions are slightly delayed). MMR changes rapidly after blank start. But 25th match should promote you to your actual league (if you win that match. Promotions happen only after victories). For example the 25th match is the first possible time to get promoted to master league, even if the player's MMR may have been in master range even some 15 matches before.

The placements for stabilized accounts (1 placement match) are placed directly in 'correct league' based on the MMR after the placement match.
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