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maGicc
Finland134 Posts
On March 26 2015 07:21 Yorbon wrote: I absolutely agree with Huk that this is by far the most suspicious game I've ever seen. Saddest part is that regardless of guilt, the scene will be damaged. Still better than matchfixing going unnoticed. | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
I get the game looking shady, until KeSPA comes out with a statement I'm holding judgement, but I was just curious if I was missing something with the Pinnacle swing. | ||
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Penev
28469 Posts
On March 26 2015 07:45 ThomasjServo wrote: Can someone enlighten me as to the betting pattern that is so suspect? I mean 8:1 doesn't seem terribly out of line considering how MKP has been playing of late relative to Byul and paying out 1.091 for a bet doesn't seem terribly out of line if horse betting has taught me anything and given MKP's performances. I get the game looking shady, until KeSPA comes out with a statement I'm holding judgement, but I was just curious if I was missing something with the Pinnacle swing. You best ask Swoopae But the info you seek is already in this thread though | ||
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Elentos
55510 Posts
On March 26 2015 07:45 ThomasjServo wrote: Can someone enlighten me as to the betting pattern that is so suspect? I mean 8:1 doesn't seem terribly out of line considering how MKP has been playing of late relative to Byul and paying out 1.091 for a bet doesn't seem terribly out of line if horse betting has taught me anything and given MKP's performances. I get the game looking shady, until KeSPA comes out with a statement I'm holding judgement, but I was just curious if I was missing something with the Pinnacle swing. Just look at the picture shown in the OP. ByuL being favored 8:1 over MarineKing while herO only being at 3:1 over Center isn't sensible. | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On March 26 2015 07:46 Penev wrote: You best ask Swoopae But the info you seek is already in this thread though Just flipped through some of his posts, makes more sense. Still holding off for a KeSPA announcement, but that is pure CJ bias, betting against MKP is sensible imo, much more decisive than the other match ups. That being for Byul specifically is off relative to herO v. Center though, I see the logic. | ||
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j4vz
Canada976 Posts
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Penev
28469 Posts
On March 26 2015 07:53 j4vz wrote: There is only one way he could be innocent in my opinion, He thought it was an overlord AND the betting line is a publicity stunt because this game is a perfect candidate to look fixed.. You don't actually can see ovies in the fog. I highly doubt MK would make that mistake. | ||
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j4vz
Canada976 Posts
On March 26 2015 07:54 Penev wrote: You don't actually can see ovies in the fog. I highly doubt MK would make that mistake. Its true but at the edge of your base you could presume the ovy is still out of the fog, the difference between black and the greyish filter applied when its under the fog is sometimes hard to tell if you dont look carefully. Im not saying he is innocent, but just imagine for a second, ending the career of someone who is not guilty, Anyway if MK know for sure that he isnt guilty, he should offer a similar explanation in my opinion, I would go out and tell everyone, Maybe he got pratice partner that knew he would use this build before the game even started. Any explanations or thought on what happened from him would be welcome. | ||
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maGicc
Finland134 Posts
On March 26 2015 07:53 j4vz wrote: There is only one way he could be innocent in my opinion, He thought it was an overlord AND the betting line is a publicity stunt because this game is a perfect candidate to look fixed.. Except that it would require for bettors to know the future, and how the game would actually play out. But ye, good theory. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 26 2015 07:53 j4vz wrote: There is only one way he could be innocent in my opinion, He thought it was an overlord AND the betting line is a publicity stunt because this game is a perfect candidate to look fixed.. How exactly would this work? The betting lines changed before the game was even played. | ||
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Elentos
55510 Posts
On March 26 2015 07:59 The_Red_Viper wrote: How exactly would this work? The betting lines changed before the game was even played. Well it would mean the bettors all knew at least ByuL's strategy and MK's average reaction to "scouting" it. So, the bets were made by CJ Entus' coaching staff and players. Clearly, this is the truth we should stick to <.< | ||
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Penev
28469 Posts
Edit: nvm I guess :-S ? | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
Huk described it best. I hope MKP is innocent but the way the game went down and the betting pattern just makes that so hard to believe outright. | ||
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j4vz
Canada976 Posts
On March 26 2015 07:59 The_Red_Viper wrote: How exactly would this work? The betting lines changed before the game was even played. Where is the proof of that? Any developer could change the timestamp on these things afterward to make it look like it was bet'd before. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 26 2015 08:03 j4vz wrote: Where is the proof of that? Any developer could change the timestamp on these things afterward to make it look like it was bet'd before. Just look at the betting forums, these guys are always discussing the lines before the games start. So you either think they are all part of it, or you just accept that your conspiracy theory is a little bit tinfoily | ||
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Grizvok
United States711 Posts
On March 26 2015 08:03 j4vz wrote: Where is the proof of that? Any developer could change the timestamp on these things afterward to make it look like it was bet'd before. Huh? Bets don't happen after a game starts. This is Pinnacle we are talking about. Let's keep this conversation sensible. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On March 26 2015 08:03 j4vz wrote: Where is the proof of that? Any developer could change the timestamp on these things afterward to make it look like it was bet'd before. I would imagine people who put in hundreds of dollars watching the bet go through would notice. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 26 2015 08:08 Caihead wrote: I would imagine people who put in hundreds of dollars watching the bet go through would notice. They are all part of it, illuminati! | ||
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Penev
28469 Posts
Fucking god dammit | ||
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
As they say, where there is smoke there is fire, and rekrul points out there are signs that this is more widespread than we may be able to see from the outside looking in; I guess I'll have to wait and see what comes out and I may well be left holding my breath. | ||
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