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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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Dickbutt
Korea (North)129 Posts
Ban B4 and YoDa for scandals Don't ban BW streamers that did the same thing k EDIT: I'm not saying remove all of them, I'm saying keep them. The Winter thing is just bitching, but you can't ban B4 and YoDa for scandals and not ban the BW players cause they both did the same damn thing. | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On October 22 2015 16:07 Dickbutt wrote: Feature Winter because he can say he's not botting Ban B4 and YoDa for scandals Don't ban BW streamers that did the same thing k EDIT: I'm not saying remove all of them, I'm saying keep them. The Winter thing is just bitching, but you can't ban B4 and YoDa for scandals and not ban the BW players cause they both did the same damn thing. it's just beyond the scope of this thread so i didn't make a pronouncement on it. however, savior was unlisted when he started streaming; so yes he was banned. i believe the others were also unlisted, but that was from way back. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On October 22 2015 16:07 Dickbutt wrote: Feature Winter because he can say he's not botting Ban B4 and YoDa for scandals Don't ban BW streamers that did the same thing k EDIT: I'm not saying remove all of them, I'm saying keep them. The Winter thing is just bitching, but you can't ban B4 and YoDa for scandals and not ban the BW players cause they both did the same damn thing. Are you comparing Alleged viewbot vs prooved match fixing ? | ||
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Dickbutt
Korea (North)129 Posts
On October 22 2015 20:07 FFW_Rude wrote: Are you comparing Alleged viewbot vs prooved match fixing ? Thanks for reading the edit | ||
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varsovie
Canada326 Posts
On October 22 2015 16:07 Dickbutt wrote: Feature Winter because he can say he's not botting Ban B4 and YoDa for scandals Don't ban BW streamers that did the same thing k EDIT: I'm not saying remove all of them, I'm saying keep them. The Winter thing is just bitching, but you can't ban B4 and YoDa for scandals and not ban the BW players cause they both did the same damn thing. I do not think this makes (a good) precedence in any rate. | ||
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ZackAttack
United States884 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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oOOoOphidian
United States1402 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16062 Posts
On October 22 2015 20:07 FFW_Rude wrote: Are you comparing Alleged viewbot vs prooved match fixing ? Isn't it basically the same? getting undeserved money through cheating? I know there isn't any hard evidence that winter botted himself and thus he can't be punished (like MK) but if he did it would be equally bad as match fixing. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On October 23 2015 01:29 Charoisaur wrote: Isn't it basically the same? getting undeserved money through cheating? I know there isn't any hard evidence that winter botted himself and thus he can't be punished (like MK) but if he did it would be equally bad as match fixing. The main problem with match fixing isn't that the players get money. The problem is that the integrity of the games is compromised, and viewers wont know if a player is losing because they are crap or because they are paid to. Which discourages viewers and kills E-SPORTS and the world as we know it. | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On October 23 2015 01:29 Charoisaur wrote: Isn't it basically the same? getting undeserved money through cheating? I know there isn't any hard evidence that winter botted himself and thus he can't be punished (like MK) but if he did it would be equally bad as match fixing. Well depends on how you look at it but having "fake viewers" just boost you up. When you watch a tournament or a stream you don't really care 'cause you go full screen and watch. It's like you watch a movie and the channel said : "There was 4 millions people watching" while in truth you were the only one. But you did watch so in the end there's no impact. While i don't agree that botting is a good thing and if it was truly the case i would agree with a ban. Matchfixing doesn't include a streamer but a player. Someone with a fan base, people come and pay to watch them play. Be it the price of the ticket or the price you pay to come to the studio. And it's not like it's a small issue since there is organized crime behind it and legal matters that can put you into jail. So in the end it's like comparing a con man to a band of organized thief. (Or if you want a more goofy comparison it's like comparing a woman with makeup with extreme photoshop) That's why i don't like the comparison. But maybe it's just me. | ||
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ProTech
United States443 Posts
On October 23 2015 01:29 Charoisaur wrote: Isn't it basically the same? getting undeserved money through cheating? I know there isn't any hard evidence that winter botted himself and thus he can't be punished (like MK) but if he did it would be equally bad as match fixing. There is no proof or evidence that winter used a bot on his channel. If there were, he would have been banned. Proof includes actual transactions from the player to the bot vendor ( search EggySC2 for how a person gets banned on twitch for view botting ) If you don't piss off the vendor there is literally no way you can prove that person was in fact viewbotting their channel. People don't donate based on viewer count, they donate based on the content. | ||
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ejozl
Denmark3486 Posts
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oOOoOphidian
United States1402 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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ProTech
United States443 Posts
Achievements: PTSL Season #2 Champion / Rank 1 Ladder champion 15+ seasons 2v2 AT / RT Average Viewership: 200 ~ 500 Paying Subscribers: 210 Followers: 23,086 Channel Views: 25,784,033 Time Broadcast: 20,217 hours over a stretch of 6 years. Requesting a featured slot, thanks. | ||
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SuGo
United States681 Posts
I'm E rank on Fish/ D rank high. Aka SuGo[PaiN] on icc. I've got about 15-20 (not a bad number for BW especially being unfeatured atm) viewers per night but would definitely have more if the stream was more visibly available to folks via the featured section. Thanks. SuGo. | ||
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oOOoOphidian
United States1402 Posts
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
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