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France7248 Posts
DreamHack announced all the stops of the year for it's DreamHack Open tour. (source)
With the announcement last year that they were dropping StarCraft II for CS:GO as the main game, this means that there will be no SC2 at DreamHack Winter in 2015.
- DreamHack Tours – May 8-10 (8-10), Tours, France
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive & StarCraft II
- DreamHack Summer – June 13-16 (13-15), Jonkoping, Sweden
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
- DreamHack Valencia – July 16-19 (16-18), Valencia, Spain
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive & StarCraft II
- DreamHack Stockholm – September 25-26 (25-26), Stockholm, Sweden
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive & StarCraft II
- DreamHack London – TBA, London, England
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
- DreamHack Cluj-Napoca – October 30-November 1 (30-1), Cluj-Napoca, Romania
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
- DreamHack Winter – November 26-29 (26-28), Jonkoping, Sweden
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
With this, DH SC2 is down from 6 events in 2014 to only 3.
Like in 2014, each event for SC2 will provide 4,000 WCS points with a prize pool of $25,000.
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Maybe one of the WCS season will be held at some DreamHack ? I hope so, it's already a big loss. 
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Belgica34432 Posts
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Too bad
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As pointed out in the reddit thread, the only confusing thing is that Dreamhack Winter and Summer don't have SC2 as well, feels like they'd have a good SC2 attendance there.
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That's really not great
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I want to say that they are probably just waiting for LotV. Once the beta comes out, SC2 tournaments are far less interesting than they already are.
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RIP in pieces Summer of  TaeJa no more DH Winter seems sad
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Hm, no sc2 at Summer or Winter is pretty sad. But who knows, might be back next year with LotV.
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On March 11 2015 00:35 purakushi wrote:
I want to say that they are probably just waiting for LotV. Once the beta comes out, SC2 tournaments are far less interesting.
That's pretty true, I remember when hots beta god it was hard to watch WoL tournaments >>.
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On March 11 2015 00:38 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 00:35 purakushi wrote:
I want to say that they are probably just waiting for LotV. Once the beta comes out, SC2 tournaments are far less interesting. That's pretty true, I remember when hots beta god it was hard to watch WoL tournaments >>.
Well it's kinda off topic but thats why I hope that LotV tournaments will start sooner than they did for HotS. An unbalanced game is incredibly fun to watch and having pros play it is an immense help for the game developers.
So while it might be "random" at first due to balance I think it will be healthy in the long run.
That being said, I think DH will for sure pick up more SC2 again should it rise in popularity. Popularity > Everything( see minecraft)
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And people where saying that Bucharest is the only one...
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France7248 Posts
On March 11 2015 00:40 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
And people where saying that Bucharest is the only one...
Bucharest is not even a DH Open stop
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China6327 Posts
I don't understand, only CSGO and no other games at 4 out of 7 events?
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On March 11 2015 00:50 digmouse wrote:
I don't understand, only CSGO and no other games at 4 out of 7 events?
I think there are. This is just "DH Open" inside DH. Dota2 and others are not part of DH Open.
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Look on the bright side of it guys, at least now being a DH champ means more now than it did before since there's less of them.
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Belgica34432 Posts
With France's SC2 crowd DH will probably realise they should do SC2 at every event
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Really strange. SC2 not at summer or winter? Damn. LotV plz come sooner.
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damn no sc2 at Dreamhack London
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That's a shame. Someone needs to post the ending of Sjow vs Life or something, cause it feels like the Swedish crowd is gonna missing out.
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On March 11 2015 00:56 KingofdaHipHop wrote:That's a shame. Someone needs to post the ending of Sjow vs Life or something, cause it feels like the Swedish crowd is gonna missing out.
But do we have swedish players anymore? 
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Oh well... I'm not too upset since the recent dreamhacks have been pretty terrible. IEM seems to have eclipsed them in terms of quality.
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I read the source article. Then I think what they means might be: there will be no BYOC (on stage) open qualifier in the events like Dreamhack Summer and Dreamhack Winter. But you can imagine there are still online qualifiers, right?
I think Dreamhack Open means on stage open tournament where everyone can join and play (like open qualifier).
For example, they do not even mention HoN in the source article. But in this news page in there official website (the same website), it says they will do HoN tournament in Dreamhack Summer: http://www.dreamhack.se/dhs15/2015/03/03/heroes-of-newerth-is-back-at-dreamhack/
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Good thing London has Gfinity which has a waaaay better player line-up than DH London would have got if it had SC2  .
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On March 11 2015 01:02 freeamount wrote:I read the source article. Then I think what they means might be: there will be no BYOC (on stage) open qualifier in the events like Dreamhack Summer and Dreamhack Winter. But you can imagine there are still online qualifiers, right? For example, they do not even mention HoN in the source article. But in this news page in there official website (the same website), it says they will do HoN tournament in Dreamhack Summer: http://www.dreamhack.se/dhs15/2015/03/03/heroes-of-newerth-is-back-at-dreamhack/
From the source article
StarCraft II will be featured at three DreamHack events leading up to the WCS Global Finals: DreamHack Tours, DreamHack Valencia and DreamHack Stockholm.
so...? d:
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On March 11 2015 01:02 freeamount wrote:I read the source article. Then I think what they means might be: there will be no BYOC (on stage) open qualifier in the events like Dreamhack Summer and Dreamhack Winter. But you can imagine there are still online qualifiers, right? For example, they do not even mention HoN in the source article. But in this news page in there official website (the same website), it says they will do HoN tournament in Dreamhack Summer: http://www.dreamhack.se/dhs15/2015/03/03/heroes-of-newerth-is-back-at-dreamhack/
That is because HoN is not part of DH Open
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On March 11 2015 01:06 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 01:02 freeamount wrote:I read the source article. Then I think what they means might be: there will be no BYOC (on stage) open qualifier in the events like Dreamhack Summer and Dreamhack Winter. But you can imagine there are still online qualifiers, right? For example, they do not even mention HoN in the source article. But in this news page in there official website (the same website), it says they will do HoN tournament in Dreamhack Summer: http://www.dreamhack.se/dhs15/2015/03/03/heroes-of-newerth-is-back-at-dreamhack/ That is because HoN is not part of DH Open
But you still have HoN in Dreamhack Summer, so... either they invite several teams or do some online qualifiers, right?
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makes sense. SC2 isn't big in neither Romania nor England.
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Meh. No SC2 at summer or winter sucks.
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Dreamhack Summer is really disappointing to be honest, but I don't know Bucharest/London are a huge loss. Dreamhack Winter not having SC2 is probably because the LotV timeline impacts it heavily. If LotV is out by that time I imagine we will be seeing SC2 there on top of the announced stops. I don't recall Bucharest as having that much hype, and London is a new location that has GFinity already being active in SC2. GFinity has qualifiers and work with players and teams with regards to flights and hotels and they deserve a lot of praise for that. That tournament is looking stacked.
SUMMER PLS.
p.s. DH Open is a brand of Dreamhack that doesn't include Dota. They have Dreamleague for that which is a standalone brand. DH Open is the brand they like to travel the circuit with.
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Since they fucked over Robert Olhen, DH has just gone downhill. Sure i think we all can agree that SC2 isnt as big as it once was, and yes games like LoL,Dota2 and CSGO has a larger audience. But to only have 3 stops with SC2 and Summer and Winter is not a part of them.
No i wont be watching or care about anything that is about Dreamhack. I always wanted to travel down to Jönköping and watch it live. Guess that will never happen now.
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Well this meens no deramhack for me this summer. Ohlen come back pls :'(
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United States23455 Posts
Fuck this. No Dreamhack Summer or Winter and the UK finally gets a Dreamhack and no SC2. God dammit
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On March 11 2015 00:52 Lorning wrote:
With France's SC2 crowd DH will probably realise they should do SC2 at every event
Agree France and poland rly have the best crowds and also fuck you dreamhack
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On March 11 2015 01:03 ZAiNs wrote:Good thing London has Gfinity which has a waaaay better player line-up than DH London would have got if it had SC2 .
no Maru GG T_T
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France7248 Posts
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Eh, and no Moscow as well.
Sad times. >:
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On March 11 2015 01:03 ZAiNs wrote:Good thing London has Gfinity which has a waaaay better player line-up than DH London would have got if it had SC2 .
Well..I see alot koreans and only 3 foreigners so I wouldn't say that is good lineup.
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DH Summer and Winter were the two biggest for sc2. Crowds were big and viewership was the highest. This is gutting tbh. To the people who argued with me saying DH maintained their support level of sc2 because of DH France what do you have to say now?
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 11 2015 01:12 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Dreamhack Summer is really disappointing to be honest, but I don't know Bucharest/London are a huge loss. Dreamhack Winter not having SC2 is probably because the LotV timeline impacts it heavily. If LotV is out by that time I imagine we will be seeing SC2 there on top of the announced stops. I don't recall Bucharest as having that much hype, and London is a new location that has GFinity already being active in SC2. GFinity has qualifiers and work with players and teams with regards to flights and hotels and they deserve a lot of praise for that. That tournament is looking stacked.
SUMMER PLS.
p.s. DH Open is a brand of Dreamhack that doesn't include Dota. They have Dreamleague for that which is a standalone brand. DH Open is the brand they like to travel the circuit with.
Bucharest had that glorious lineup once with Flash, sOs, Bogus, Life and other. Was cool.
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Canada13386 Posts
On March 11 2015 01:24 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Eh, and no Moscow as well.
Sad times. >:
Moscow was boycotted last year by a lot of players. Honestly, its not THAT surprising to not see SC2 on the moscow stop from a business perspective.
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So LotV a game barely in beta, unproven and unpracticed, will have a side event at DH winter. Nothing compared to what we've had in the past.
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Canada1637 Posts
On March 11 2015 01:26 Yorkie wrote:So LotV a game barely in beta, unproven and unpracticed, will have a side event at DH winter. Nothing compared to what we've had in the past.
You draw strange conclusions.
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On March 11 2015 00:52 Lorning wrote:
With France's SC2 crowd DH will probably realise they should do SC2 at every event
If you don't choose the good crew to cast games, it's not going to go well.
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On March 11 2015 01:29 Adebisi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 01:26 Yorkie wrote:So LotV a game barely in beta, unproven and unpracticed, will have a side event at DH winter. Nothing compared to what we've had in the past. You draw strange conclusions.
You obviously meant LotV...it will be in beta at the time of DH winter...it will have only been out for a few months at best by then. What exactly am I wrong about?
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I'm glad that I haven't spent a dime to support DH and never will.
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On March 11 2015 01:12 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Dreamhack Summer is really disappointing to be honest, but I don't know Bucharest/London are a huge loss. Dreamhack Winter not having SC2 is probably because the LotV timeline impacts it heavily. If LotV is out by that time I imagine we will be seeing SC2 there on top of the announced stops. I don't recall Bucharest as having that much hype, and London is a new location that has GFinity already being active in SC2. GFinity has qualifiers and work with players and teams with regards to flights and hotels and they deserve a lot of praise for that. That tournament is looking stacked.
SUMMER PLS.
p.s. DH Open is a brand of Dreamhack that doesn't include Dota. They have Dreamleague for that which is a standalone brand. DH Open is the brand they like to travel the circuit with.
Its a bit of a shame because all the DH events were bringing competition to countries that didn't have them and sort off encouraging local talent to come and play, at the very least the locals could experience what it was like to be at a big event like DH and see their favorite players play on stage. Its especially helpful for those who can't really travel for these sort of things.
I attended all DH Bucharest bar the very first, despite losing early I had great fun, I enjoyed watching the games live and meeting my favorite players and all the eSports personalities. I was eager and excited to compete in the next one. I know this may have sounded a bit selfish but I'm pretty sure there were more like me that felt the same and are sorry that DH isn't bringing SC2 to their countries.
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Germany913 Posts
One of the saddest days in SC2 history...
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I hope DH is only taking a reduced role from SC2 until LotV because losing Winter and Summer is a big blow to DH's SC2 presence.
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Anyone knows how accomodation on Dreamhack looks like? I wanted to go to Valencia this year, but they haven't released any details yet and I don't know if it's worth (possible) getting a ticket that will provide a sleeping place in the hall and if so, if they let you sleep over there after the last day or competition and so on. And I wanted to book my plane tickets already .
Would be really nice if someone familiar with Dreamhack format/scheduling/accomodation made a FAQ, because that on their covers only ticket printing and refunds...
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On March 11 2015 01:26 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 01:12 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Dreamhack Summer is really disappointing to be honest, but I don't know Bucharest/London are a huge loss. Dreamhack Winter not having SC2 is probably because the LotV timeline impacts it heavily. If LotV is out by that time I imagine we will be seeing SC2 there on top of the announced stops. I don't recall Bucharest as having that much hype, and London is a new location that has GFinity already being active in SC2. GFinity has qualifiers and work with players and teams with regards to flights and hotels and they deserve a lot of praise for that. That tournament is looking stacked.
SUMMER PLS.
p.s. DH Open is a brand of Dreamhack that doesn't include Dota. They have Dreamleague for that which is a standalone brand. DH Open is the brand they like to travel the circuit with. Bucharest had that glorious lineup once with Flash, sOs, Bogus, Life and other. Was cool.
Yea that was an awesome line-up, but it was thanks to players scrambling for WCS points for Blizzcon as opposed to Dreamhack doing something to get top players.
On March 11 2015 01:39 Ej_ wrote:Anyone knows how accomodation on Dreamhack looks like? I wanted to go to Valencia this year, but they haven't released any details yet and I don't know if it's worth (possible) getting a ticket that will provide a sleeping place in the hall and if so, if they let you sleep over there after the last day or competition and so on. And I wanted to book my plane tickets already . Would be really nice if someone familiar with Dreamhack format/scheduling/accomodation made a FAQ, because that on their covers only ticket printing and refunds...
I went to DH Valencia 2 years ago. I'm pretty sure you can sleep in the sleeping area for the entirety of the Dreamhack festival, which is usually up until the Sunday. Personally I'd recommend getting a hotel, I stayed in a pretty cheap one <5 minutes from the venue. The only good place to eat that is open most of the time is some kebab place, go there and order 'menu dos grande'.
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Don't worry, downsizing is healthy! It doesn't matter how few people are watching it just matters that we have fun /s
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Sc2 still gets 3 events compared to 0 for dota 2 ;p
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WOW we dont even get DH Winter seriously?!
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On March 11 2015 01:41 nkr wrote:
Sc2 still gets 3 events compared to 0 for dota 2 ;p
Opens events are not the only ones. There'll be dota at other DHs I believe, but no SC2
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Well I'll tune in to half the Dreamhacks then.
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Why not rename DreamHack to CSgoHack? Lost my respect for DH, just ridiculous now
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France7248 Posts
On March 11 2015 01:48 b3nd3r wrote:
Why not rename DreamHack to CSgoHack? Lost my respect for DH, just ridiculous now
was is named SC2Hack before?
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On March 11 2015 01:48 b3nd3r wrote:
Why not rename DreamHack to CSgoHack? Lost my respect for DH, just ridiculous now
TIL StarCraft is called DreamCraft >.>
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On March 11 2015 01:50 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 01:48 b3nd3r wrote:
Why not rename DreamHack to CSgoHack? Lost my respect for DH, just ridiculous now was is named SC2Hack before?
Yeah it can work that way too d:
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On March 11 2015 01:48 b3nd3r wrote:
Why not rename DreamHack to CSgoHack? Lost my respect for DH, just ridiculous now
You know, Dreamhack was around for one and a half decade before sc2 got released. It owes nothing to Sc2. Be glad they are still holding tournaments for the game rather than actually going for more popular games like hearthstone, lol, dota or whatever
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On March 11 2015 01:36 Clubfan wrote:
One of the saddest days in SC2 history...
Holy shit talk about drama queens
You know it's a sad day for SC2 history when there's still like 500 fucking tournaments each week. Right?
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On March 11 2015 01:52 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 01:48 b3nd3r wrote:
Why not rename DreamHack to CSgoHack? Lost my respect for DH, just ridiculous now You know, Dreamhack was around for one and a half decade before sc2 got released. It owes nothing to Sc2. Be glad they are still holding tournaments for the game rather than actually going for more popular games like hearthstone, lol, dota or whatever
Naw mate, DH cutting down on SC2 is obviously a terrible betrayal that was decided for no pragmatic reasons whatsoever.
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Wait there's going to be a DH London with no SC2?
Well, guess I'm not going then
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On March 11 2015 01:54 KeksX wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 01:36 Clubfan wrote:
One of the saddest days in SC2 history... Holy shit talk about drama queens You know it's a sad day for SC2 history when there's still like 500 fucking tournaments each week. Right?
You dont think that one of the biggest esport tournament organisers drops SC from their 2 biggest events? Get real.
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On March 11 2015 01:55 Luolis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 01:54 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 01:36 Clubfan wrote:
One of the saddest days in SC2 history... Holy shit talk about drama queens You know it's a sad day for SC2 history when there's still like 500 fucking tournaments each week. Right? You dont think that one of the biggest esport tournament organisers drops SC from their 2 biggest events? Get real.
"Get real" !? Rofl, you guys are blowing this way out of propotion. It completely makes sense for them. CS:GO is wayyy bigger than SC2, the fact that they still hold 3 events for SC2 regardless is great.
As I said, the fact that they did not pick Winter/Summer for this is a bummer, but otherwise still having 3 events for HotS is great.
DH is a company that needs to rake in profits. And we all have to face it that you're not going to get the big crowds with HotS atm.
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On March 11 2015 01:58 KeksX wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 01:55 Luolis wrote:On March 11 2015 01:54 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 01:36 Clubfan wrote:
One of the saddest days in SC2 history... Holy shit talk about drama queens You know it's a sad day for SC2 history when there's still like 500 fucking tournaments each week. Right? You dont think that one of the biggest esport tournament organisers drops SC from their 2 biggest events? Get real. "Get real" !? Rofl, you guys are blowing this way out of propotion. It completely makes sense for them. CS:GO is wayyy bigger than SC2, the fact that they still hold 3 events for SC2 regardless is great. As I said, the fact that they did not pick Winter/Summer for this is a bummer, but otherwise still having 3 events for HotS is great. DH is a company that needs to rake in profits. And we all have to face it that you're not going to get the big crowds with HotS atm.
What are you even talking about?
Let's check the original quote again: On March 11 2015 01:36 Clubfan wrote:
One of the saddest days in SC2 history...
And then you are talking about CS:GO and business decisions. wtf is that related to this?
This INDEED is one of the saddest days of SC2 history.
It completely makes sense for them. CS:GO is wayyy bigger than SC2
It doesn't mean that this can't the one of the saddest days of the SC2.
If he had said "This is one of the saddest days of the Dreamhack", I would understand you.
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On March 11 2015 01:52 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 01:48 b3nd3r wrote:
Why not rename DreamHack to CSgoHack? Lost my respect for DH, just ridiculous now You know, Dreamhack was around for one and a half decade before sc2 got released. It owes nothing to Sc2. Be glad they are still holding tournaments for the game rather than actually going for more popular games like hearthstone, lol, dota or whatever
These games are garbage, the future is in maincraft !!
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On March 11 2015 01:48 b3nd3r wrote:
Why not rename DreamHack to CSgoHack? Lost my respect for DH, just ridiculous now
DreamHack was around long before SC2 was announced rofl. Also considering DreamHack's e-sports scene was promoted by CS and arena FPS it could be said SC2 was the usurper before CS:GO took the throne back.
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On March 11 2015 02:06 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 01:58 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 01:55 Luolis wrote:On March 11 2015 01:54 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 01:36 Clubfan wrote:
One of the saddest days in SC2 history... Holy shit talk about drama queens You know it's a sad day for SC2 history when there's still like 500 fucking tournaments each week. Right? You dont think that one of the biggest esport tournament organisers drops SC from their 2 biggest events? Get real. "Get real" !? Rofl, you guys are blowing this way out of propotion. It completely makes sense for them. CS:GO is wayyy bigger than SC2, the fact that they still hold 3 events for SC2 regardless is great. As I said, the fact that they did not pick Winter/Summer for this is a bummer, but otherwise still having 3 events for HotS is great. DH is a company that needs to rake in profits. And we all have to face it that you're not going to get the big crowds with HotS atm. What are you even talking about? Let's check the original quote again: Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 01:36 Clubfan wrote:
One of the saddest days in SC2 history... And then you are talking about CS:GO and business decisions. wtf is that related to this? This INDEED is one of the saddest days of SC2 history. It doesn't mean that this can't the one of the saddest days of the SC2.
Is it sad? Yeah, kinda. Is it understandable? Yes.
Is it one of the saddest day in SC2 history? I hardly think so. There'll be much worse things, such as DH completely abandoning SC2 etc. But just because they drop down their SC2 coverage to get on the CS:GO hypetrain for a while, while most "sleeper SC2 Viewers" are just waiting for LotV is not so sad afterall.
I talk about CS:GO because when you only see this, SC2 getting less coverage, it is sad. In all the context though it just makes sense for them and the fact that they STILL have SC2 even though they could easily just abandon it completely, shows that there's still a future for DH and SC2. LotV might even be main event again, who knows.
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On March 11 2015 02:08 KeksX wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 02:06 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On March 11 2015 01:58 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 01:55 Luolis wrote:On March 11 2015 01:54 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 01:36 Clubfan wrote:
One of the saddest days in SC2 history... Holy shit talk about drama queens You know it's a sad day for SC2 history when there's still like 500 fucking tournaments each week. Right? You dont think that one of the biggest esport tournament organisers drops SC from their 2 biggest events? Get real. "Get real" !? Rofl, you guys are blowing this way out of propotion. It completely makes sense for them. CS:GO is wayyy bigger than SC2, the fact that they still hold 3 events for SC2 regardless is great. As I said, the fact that they did not pick Winter/Summer for this is a bummer, but otherwise still having 3 events for HotS is great. DH is a company that needs to rake in profits. And we all have to face it that you're not going to get the big crowds with HotS atm. What are you even talking about? Let's check the original quote again: On March 11 2015 01:36 Clubfan wrote:
One of the saddest days in SC2 history... And then you are talking about CS:GO and business decisions. wtf is that related to this? This INDEED is one of the saddest days of SC2 history. It completely makes sense for them. CS:GO is wayyy bigger than SC2 It doesn't mean that this can't the one of the saddest days of the SC2. Is it sad? Yeah, kinda. Is it understandable? Yes. Is it one of the saddest day in SC2 history? I hardly think so. There'll be much worse things, such as DH completely abandoning SC2 etc. But just because they drop down their SC2 coverage to get on the CS:GO hypetrain for a while, while most "sleeper SC2 Viewers" are just waiting for LotV is not so sad afterall. I talk about CS:GO because when you only see this, SC2 getting less coverage, it is sad. In all the context though it just makes sense for them and the fact that they STILL have SC2 even though they could easily just abandon it completely, shows that there's still a future for DH and SC2. LotV might even be main event again, who knows.
The thing is LotV will only build some hype for about 6 months like HotS did. Seeing DH dropping SC2 so quickly when viewer numbers decrease compared to other games, makes you understand that within 1-2 years sc2 might be completely disappeared from DH.
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On March 11 2015 01:39 Ej_ wrote:Anyone knows how accomodation on Dreamhack looks like? I wanted to go to Valencia this year, but they haven't released any details yet and I don't know if it's worth (possible) getting a ticket that will provide a sleeping place in the hall and if so, if they let you sleep over there after the last day or competition and so on. And I wanted to book my plane tickets already . Would be really nice if someone familiar with Dreamhack format/scheduling/accomodation made a FAQ, because that on their covers only ticket printing and refunds...
If you have problems, I now a very nice tangerine plantation near the city where I slept quite well during my last visit. The only drawback was that I wasn't able to eat tangerines for a couple of years afterwards
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On March 11 2015 02:11 KingAlphard wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 02:08 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 02:06 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On March 11 2015 01:58 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 01:55 Luolis wrote:On March 11 2015 01:54 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 01:36 Clubfan wrote:
One of the saddest days in SC2 history... Holy shit talk about drama queens You know it's a sad day for SC2 history when there's still like 500 fucking tournaments each week. Right? You dont think that one of the biggest esport tournament organisers drops SC from their 2 biggest events? Get real. "Get real" !? Rofl, you guys are blowing this way out of propotion. It completely makes sense for them. CS:GO is wayyy bigger than SC2, the fact that they still hold 3 events for SC2 regardless is great. As I said, the fact that they did not pick Winter/Summer for this is a bummer, but otherwise still having 3 events for HotS is great. DH is a company that needs to rake in profits. And we all have to face it that you're not going to get the big crowds with HotS atm. What are you even talking about? Let's check the original quote again: On March 11 2015 01:36 Clubfan wrote:
One of the saddest days in SC2 history... And then you are talking about CS:GO and business decisions. wtf is that related to this? This INDEED is one of the saddest days of SC2 history. It completely makes sense for them. CS:GO is wayyy bigger than SC2 It doesn't mean that this can't the one of the saddest days of the SC2. Is it sad? Yeah, kinda. Is it understandable? Yes. Is it one of the saddest day in SC2 history? I hardly think so. There'll be much worse things, such as DH completely abandoning SC2 etc. But just because they drop down their SC2 coverage to get on the CS:GO hypetrain for a while, while most "sleeper SC2 Viewers" are just waiting for LotV is not so sad afterall. I talk about CS:GO because when you only see this, SC2 getting less coverage, it is sad. In all the context though it just makes sense for them and the fact that they STILL have SC2 even though they could easily just abandon it completely, shows that there's still a future for DH and SC2. LotV might even be main event again, who knows. The thing is LotV will only build some hype for about 6 months like HotS did. Seeing DH dropping SC2 so quickly when viewer numbers decrease compared to other games, makes you understand that within 1-2 years sc2 might be completely disappeared from DH.
They are not dropping it completely though, just shifting focus.
Also the fact that you think that LotV will only create hype for 6 months and then drop more is sadder than this, tbh. I for one hope that LotV will do a lot more than that.
Anyway, DH has been picking up games and dropping them again all over the place. What makes you think that such a thing would be permanent? They are just reacting to whats popular. So even if they'd drop it completely for a certain time period, if SC2 then rises again in popularity they'd pick it back up. Depending on what Blizzard plans to do with SC2 past LotV, that could easily happen. But thats theorycrafting.
I'm just saying that this is not the end of the world by far.
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On March 11 2015 02:14 KeksX wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 02:11 KingAlphard wrote:On March 11 2015 02:08 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 02:06 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On March 11 2015 01:58 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 01:55 Luolis wrote:On March 11 2015 01:54 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 01:36 Clubfan wrote:
One of the saddest days in SC2 history... Holy shit talk about drama queens You know it's a sad day for SC2 history when there's still like 500 fucking tournaments each week. Right? You dont think that one of the biggest esport tournament organisers drops SC from their 2 biggest events? Get real. "Get real" !? Rofl, you guys are blowing this way out of propotion. It completely makes sense for them. CS:GO is wayyy bigger than SC2, the fact that they still hold 3 events for SC2 regardless is great. As I said, the fact that they did not pick Winter/Summer for this is a bummer, but otherwise still having 3 events for HotS is great. DH is a company that needs to rake in profits. And we all have to face it that you're not going to get the big crowds with HotS atm. What are you even talking about? Let's check the original quote again: On March 11 2015 01:36 Clubfan wrote:
One of the saddest days in SC2 history... And then you are talking about CS:GO and business decisions. wtf is that related to this? This INDEED is one of the saddest days of SC2 history. It completely makes sense for them. CS:GO is wayyy bigger than SC2 It doesn't mean that this can't the one of the saddest days of the SC2. Is it sad? Yeah, kinda. Is it understandable? Yes. Is it one of the saddest day in SC2 history? I hardly think so. There'll be much worse things, such as DH completely abandoning SC2 etc. But just because they drop down their SC2 coverage to get on the CS:GO hypetrain for a while, while most "sleeper SC2 Viewers" are just waiting for LotV is not so sad afterall. I talk about CS:GO because when you only see this, SC2 getting less coverage, it is sad. In all the context though it just makes sense for them and the fact that they STILL have SC2 even though they could easily just abandon it completely, shows that there's still a future for DH and SC2. LotV might even be main event again, who knows. The thing is LotV will only build some hype for about 6 months like HotS did. Seeing DH dropping SC2 so quickly when viewer numbers decrease compared to other games, makes you understand that within 1-2 years sc2 might be completely disappeared from DH. They are not dropping it completely though, just shifting focus.
Also the fact that you think that LotV will only create hype for 6 months and then drop more is sadder than this, tbh. I for one hope that LotV will do a lot more than that.Anyway, DH has been picking up games and dropping them again all over the place. What makes you think that such a thing would be permanent? They are just reacting to whats popular. So even if they'd drop it completely for a certain time period, if SC2 then rises again in popularity they'd pick it back up. Depending on what Blizzard plans to do with SC2 past LotV, that could easily happen. But thats theorycrafting. I'm just saying that this is not the end of the world by far.
Hope all you want man... But that is probably the case.
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On March 11 2015 02:08 KeksX wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 02:06 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On March 11 2015 01:58 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 01:55 Luolis wrote:On March 11 2015 01:54 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 01:36 Clubfan wrote:
One of the saddest days in SC2 history... Holy shit talk about drama queens You know it's a sad day for SC2 history when there's still like 500 fucking tournaments each week. Right? You dont think that one of the biggest esport tournament organisers drops SC from their 2 biggest events? Get real. "Get real" !? Rofl, you guys are blowing this way out of propotion. It completely makes sense for them. CS:GO is wayyy bigger than SC2, the fact that they still hold 3 events for SC2 regardless is great. As I said, the fact that they did not pick Winter/Summer for this is a bummer, but otherwise still having 3 events for HotS is great. DH is a company that needs to rake in profits. And we all have to face it that you're not going to get the big crowds with HotS atm. What are you even talking about? Let's check the original quote again: On March 11 2015 01:36 Clubfan wrote:
One of the saddest days in SC2 history... And then you are talking about CS:GO and business decisions. wtf is that related to this? This INDEED is one of the saddest days of SC2 history. It completely makes sense for them. CS:GO is wayyy bigger than SC2 It doesn't mean that this can't the one of the saddest days of the SC2. Is it sad? Yeah, kinda. Is it understandable? Yes. Is it one of the saddest day in SC2 history? I hardly think so. There'll be much worse things, such as DH completely abandoning SC2 etc. But just because they drop down their SC2 coverage to get on the CS:GO hypetrain for a while, while most "sleeper SC2 Viewers" are just waiting for LotV is not so sad afterall. I talk about CS:GO because when you only see this, SC2 getting less coverage, it is sad. In all the context though it just makes sense for them and the fact that they STILL have SC2 even though they could easily just abandon it completely, shows that there's still a future for DH and SC2. LotV might even be main event again, who knows.
Understandable? Yes, I understand why they dropped few sc2 events. I know CS:GO gets more viewers so its better business decision.
Also we are talking about history (what have happend so far), not future. So far this is one of the saddest days of SC2.
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Wtf? Dreamhack finally comes to London and no SC2....
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It's a logical business decision by Dreamhack considering that CS:GO is probably the most popular e-sport atm and in any case far outstrips SC2 in terms of viewership.
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haha, lol at the "only no sc2 at bucharest", well gfinity can easily surpass bo3 ro4/bo5 final and shitty overlays if they don't fuck up
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Love watching this game die. Maybe Blizzard will finally wake up and realize how much they fucked up with SC2. Who am I kidding, they aren't going to change anything. Expect more of the same for LoTV in terms of general incompetency and disregard for the game. Enjoy it while you can: the age of foreign Starcraft is coming to an end. It's only downhill from here.
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On March 11 2015 01:31 Aeromi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 00:52 Lorning wrote:
With France's SC2 crowd DH will probably realise they should do SC2 at every event If you don't choose the good crew to cast games, it's not going to go well.
what do you mean ?
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Absolutely gutted that they're finally coming to London but not bringing SC2
Definitely won't be going for CS:GO
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On March 11 2015 02:53 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 01:31 Aeromi wrote:On March 11 2015 00:52 Lorning wrote:
With France's SC2 crowd DH will probably realise they should do SC2 at every event If you don't choose the good crew to cast games, it's not going to go well. what do you mean ?
That the french crowd will start to throw baguettes at the casters if they suck
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I've been fearing DH would prioritize down SC2 ever since DH didn't get the WCS gig (not saying ESL has done a bad job though).
In a vacuum this news may not be the end of the world. But it's looking more and more like SC2 may have missed the e-sports train only to be left forgotten at the station.
I really hope I'm wrong though.
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On March 11 2015 03:22 OtherWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 02:53 Makro wrote:On March 11 2015 01:31 Aeromi wrote:On March 11 2015 00:52 Lorning wrote:
With France's SC2 crowd DH will probably realise they should do SC2 at every event If you don't choose the good crew to cast games, it's not going to go well. what do you mean ? That the french crowd will start to throw baguettes at the casters if they suck
Should that not be taken as a compliment? "Hey look guys, they are throwing baguettes at us! They don't want us to starve mid-cast!".
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LOTV Has to come to save the party.
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Hots is a much better game than WoL and still the viewership is lower. The same will most likely be with LotV.
The problem is more with the RTS genre in general which is not popular at all.
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Hey, look on the bright side, if events like this keep closing at least we won't get to see players like Rain and Soulkey abandon proleague.
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Robert Ohlen was the defender of SC2 guess we've got to hope LotV smashes it out the park!
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So DH is now only CS:Go with Few sporadic SC2 ..... Fu them then i am not going to travel to watch only one CS:go tournament... RIP DH winter......
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Is there really a bigger market for HoN than for SC2?
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On March 11 2015 01:17 Darkhorse wrote:
Fuck this. No Dreamhack Summer or Winter and the UK finally gets a Dreamhack and no SC2. God dammit
Argh... fuck. Had planned to go to Dreamhack Summer too as I'll finally have the money to think about travelling again.
I understand them dropping the smaller circuit events, but dropping it from Summer/Winter? :S The numbers were always pretty damn good for those events right?
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the only dreamhack i can go to... wont even have starcraft 2. ;-;7
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On March 11 2015 04:37 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 01:17 Darkhorse wrote:
Fuck this. No Dreamhack Summer or Winter and the UK finally gets a Dreamhack and no SC2. God dammit Argh... fuck. Had planned to go to Dreamhack Summer too as I'll finally have the money to think about travelling again. I understand them dropping the smaller circuit events, but dropping it from Summer/Winter? :S The numbers were always pretty damn good for those events right?
I feel you. I was going to ASUS ROG (Assembly) to watch SC2 but they dropped it Im so sad now. Most likely im not going to watch SC2 tournament live ever
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I just don't get why they can't have a Starcraft 2 event. Doesn't necessarily have to be in a hockey arena like the last one I went to (HerO winning Dreamhack Winter in 2011)
Anyway, I await to hear more regarding this, the decision to drop it etc before fully commenting. Hopefully some things get cleared up in this regard in the near future
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On March 11 2015 03:54 KingAlphard wrote:
Hots is a much better game than WoL and still the viewership is lower. The same will most likely be with LotV.
The problem is more with the RTS genre in general which is not popular at all.
Are we playing/watching the same game? Swarm Host games are the worst thing to ever happen to SC2, worse than Broodlord/Infestor games.
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On March 11 2015 04:52 KeksX wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 03:54 KingAlphard wrote:
Hots is a much better game than WoL and still the viewership is lower. The same will most likely be with LotV.
The problem is more with the RTS genre in general which is not popular at all. Are we playing/watching the same game? Swarm Host games are the worst thing to ever happen to SC2, worse than Broodlord/Infestor games.
Probably you don't remember how WoL was like. Do you see Swarm host every game now? Absolutely not. Not even that often in games that go past 20-30 minutes. In WoL, every single game was broodlord infestor and it was either kill them before or you lose. That's the only reason why games didn't last 2 hours, because if it got past 30 minutes the zerg player always won while now it's much more balanced at least.
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On March 11 2015 04:57 KingAlphard wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 04:52 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 03:54 KingAlphard wrote:
Hots is a much better game than WoL and still the viewership is lower. The same will most likely be with LotV.
The problem is more with the RTS genre in general which is not popular at all. Are we playing/watching the same game? Swarm Host games are the worst thing to ever happen to SC2, worse than Broodlord/Infestor games. Probably you don't remember how WoL was like. Do you see Swarm host every game now? Absolutely not. Not even that often in games that go past 20-30 minutes. In WoL, every single game was broodlord infestor and it was either kill them before or you lose. That's the only reason why games didn't last 2 hours, because if it got past 30 minutes the zerg player always won while now it's much more balanced at least.
Still, if you ask people about why they stopped watching SC2, many of them will state Swarm Host as one reason. I might be biased due to being a zerg player, but I didn't experience the Broodlord Infestor phase to be as bad as Swarm Host games now.
We also didn't have these ridiculous ZvT Mech situations.
I think that while games have never been better, thats mostly due to overall increase of skill. HotS definitely brought some fun elements, such as the Viper, but it also brought a lot of frustrating stuff.
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On March 11 2015 01:12 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Dreamhack Summer is really disappointing to be honest, but I don't know Bucharest/London are a huge loss. Dreamhack Winter not having SC2 is probably because the LotV timeline impacts it heavily. If LotV is out by that time I imagine we will be seeing SC2 there on top of the announced stops. I don't recall Bucharest as having that much hype, and London is a new location that has GFinity already being active in SC2. GFinity has qualifiers and work with players and teams with regards to flights and hotels and they deserve a lot of praise for that. That tournament is looking stacked.
SUMMER PLS.
p.s. DH Open is a brand of Dreamhack that doesn't include Dota. They have Dreamleague for that which is a standalone brand. DH Open is the brand they like to travel the circuit with.
Except unlike Gfinity, Dreamhack is a premier tournament.
That means it should be in London. London needs a premier tournament.
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I think the very worst Swarmhost games tend to stick in the memory for a long time and give out a false impression of their prevalence, especially at the very very top level. BL/Infestor was literally almost every game in WoL vT and vP.
Also I thought the herO vs Rogue game from the other day was pretty interesting and exciting
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well that really sucks. Dreamhacks were the most fun to watch for me because they fit my timezone most of the time.
good bye SC2, maybe the next addon can save you because DH wont.
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On March 11 2015 05:06 Wombat_NI wrote:
I think the very worst Swarmhost games tend to stick in the memory for a long time and give out a false impression of their prevalence, especially at the very very top level. BL/Infestor was literally almost every game in WoL vT and vP.
Also I thought the herO vs Rogue game from the other day was pretty interesting and exciting
We're seeing the exact same composition in every ZvT as well (if T is not doing some weird kind of Mech thing) yet people consider it the most fun thing to watch.
I don't think it's the frequency of a style that makes it worse/better, it's whether or not it's fun to watch. And I think I speak for the majority when I say that watching Swarm Host games is a chore.
But anyway, that's way off topic now. Sorry for that. I just wanted to throw in the point that it's not a universally accepted fact that HotS is the better game and games are better across the board.
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No dreamhack summer or winter?????? T_T
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LotV please.
Not having DH winter is ridiculous imo. I mean, I don't remember the viewerships for former dreamhacks, but didn't the last one have 60k at least? I remember IEMs constantly having 80-110k viewers in 2013, but 60k is really not that bad... I don't think the reason to drop it was SC2 doing as badly as it is right now, but more like other games doing better (obviously), so I don't really understand the ded gaem talk here either.
LotV is going to put Starcraft right back up where it belongs.
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Weow, too bad. I won't need to plan going to DH Summer then I guess.
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I want Ohlen to prove through Gfinity's growth that this is a terrible move.
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wtf wheres the minecraft.
DEAD GAME OH MY GOD
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screw this. I dont need dreamhack. only need GSL
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On March 11 2015 08:55 ukiya2004 wrote:
screw this. I dont need dreamhack. only need GSL
And Proleague. And NSSL. And Kespa Cup.
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No SC2 at Dreamhack Winter is fricken brutal. What tournament will HerO collect his paycheck from now!?
...But actually, I'm really disappointed. That sucks. At least we still have Stockholm.
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On March 11 2015 05:02 KeksX wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 04:57 KingAlphard wrote:On March 11 2015 04:52 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 03:54 KingAlphard wrote:
Hots is a much better game than WoL and still the viewership is lower. The same will most likely be with LotV.
The problem is more with the RTS genre in general which is not popular at all. Are we playing/watching the same game? Swarm Host games are the worst thing to ever happen to SC2, worse than Broodlord/Infestor games. Probably you don't remember how WoL was like. Do you see Swarm host every game now? Absolutely not. Not even that often in games that go past 20-30 minutes. In WoL, every single game was broodlord infestor and it was either kill them before or you lose. That's the only reason why games didn't last 2 hours, because if it got past 30 minutes the zerg player always won while now it's much more balanced at least. Still, if you ask people about why they stopped watching SC2, many of them will state Swarm Host as one reason. I might be biased due to being a zerg player, but I didn't experience the Broodlord Infestor phase to be as bad as Swarm Host games now. We also didn't have these ridiculous ZvT Mech situations. I think that while games have never been better, thats mostly due to overall increase of skill. HotS definitely brought some fun elements, such as the Viper, but it also brought a lot of frustrating stuff.
I honestly think BL Infestor was way worse being able to correctly predict every fricken zerg matchup (in terms of builds, if not results) was terrible. Of course, there were exceptions (Leenock continued to favor Mutas and that made his games FANTASTIC. Life stuck on lings for longer than most which was fun to watch). But on the whole, so many fricken Broodlord games, by the end even in ZvZ.
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On March 11 2015 09:31 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 05:02 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 04:57 KingAlphard wrote:On March 11 2015 04:52 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 03:54 KingAlphard wrote:
Hots is a much better game than WoL and still the viewership is lower. The same will most likely be with LotV.
The problem is more with the RTS genre in general which is not popular at all. Are we playing/watching the same game? Swarm Host games are the worst thing to ever happen to SC2, worse than Broodlord/Infestor games. Probably you don't remember how WoL was like. Do you see Swarm host every game now? Absolutely not. Not even that often in games that go past 20-30 minutes. In WoL, every single game was broodlord infestor and it was either kill them before or you lose. That's the only reason why games didn't last 2 hours, because if it got past 30 minutes the zerg player always won while now it's much more balanced at least. Still, if you ask people about why they stopped watching SC2, many of them will state Swarm Host as one reason. I might be biased due to being a zerg player, but I didn't experience the Broodlord Infestor phase to be as bad as Swarm Host games now. We also didn't have these ridiculous ZvT Mech situations. I think that while games have never been better, thats mostly due to overall increase of skill. HotS definitely brought some fun elements, such as the Viper, but it also brought a lot of frustrating stuff. I honestly think BL Infestor was way worse being able to correctly predict every fricken zerg matchup (in terms of builds, if not results) was terrible. Of course, there were exceptions (Leenock continued to favor Mutas and that made his games FANTASTIC. Life stuck on lings for longer than most which was fun to watch). But on the whole, so many fricken Broodlord games, by the end even in ZvZ.
I loved WoL, watched all the GSL finals but at the end i couldn't get myself to watch SC2 with how boring and abusive was the Blord/Infestor.
Hell, the last WoL GSL final was a ZvZ and was the one with the lowest viewers and the less post in the thread in the story of WoL, it just got so boring.
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This really isn't so bad, It's three more premier tournaments than I thought we were going to get. No DH winter sucks but it sounds like if LOTV is out by DH:W we'll have our tournament.
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so basically dh is cutting down on sc2 in two new locations and removing it from jonkoping? this seems kinda odd... i dont see any other events that's listed but will we see dh hosting league, dota2, and (god forbid) minecraft?
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On March 11 2015 09:31 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 05:02 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 04:57 KingAlphard wrote:On March 11 2015 04:52 KeksX wrote:On March 11 2015 03:54 KingAlphard wrote:
Hots is a much better game than WoL and still the viewership is lower. The same will most likely be with LotV.
The problem is more with the RTS genre in general which is not popular at all. Are we playing/watching the same game? Swarm Host games are the worst thing to ever happen to SC2, worse than Broodlord/Infestor games. Probably you don't remember how WoL was like. Do you see Swarm host every game now? Absolutely not. Not even that often in games that go past 20-30 minutes. In WoL, every single game was broodlord infestor and it was either kill them before or you lose. That's the only reason why games didn't last 2 hours, because if it got past 30 minutes the zerg player always won while now it's much more balanced at least. Still, if you ask people about why they stopped watching SC2, many of them will state Swarm Host as one reason. I might be biased due to being a zerg player, but I didn't experience the Broodlord Infestor phase to be as bad as Swarm Host games now. We also didn't have these ridiculous ZvT Mech situations. I think that while games have never been better, thats mostly due to overall increase of skill. HotS definitely brought some fun elements, such as the Viper, but it also brought a lot of frustrating stuff. I honestly think BL Infestor was way worse being able to correctly predict every fricken zerg matchup (in terms of builds, if not results) was terrible. Of course, there were exceptions (Leenock continued to favor Mutas and that made his games FANTASTIC. Life stuck on lings for longer than most which was fun to watch). But on the whole, so many fricken Broodlord games, by the end even in ZvZ.
not really, there are lots of variations
It's just that most if not all are similar to each other because of the defensive nature.
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Argh, I really am not so fussed about the additional stops on the tour, but no SC2 at Winter or Summer just seems wrong
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On March 11 2015 01:52 nkr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 01:48 b3nd3r wrote:
Why not rename DreamHack to CSgoHack? Lost my respect for DH, just ridiculous now You know, Dreamhack was around for one and a half decade before sc2 got released. It owes nothing to Sc2. Be glad they are still holding tournaments for the game rather than actually going for more popular games like hearthstone, lol, dota or whatever
You know, when CS:GO is the only played game on the majority of specific tournaments, they're not really tournaments anymore. They are just CS:GO events and nothing more.
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Unfortunate that SC2 is not the main event anymore, but I'm sure these will still be great tournaments to watch.
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they lost the dream - only a hack now
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Well there's a chance that LotV will happen on DH:W - which could be cool.
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On March 11 2015 05:41 SoulmaN__ wrote:
LotV please.
Not having DH winter is ridiculous imo. I mean, I don't remember the viewerships for former dreamhacks, but didn't the last one have 60k at least? I remember IEMs constantly having 80-110k viewers in 2013, but 60k is really not that bad... I don't think the reason to drop it was SC2 doing as badly as it is right now, but more like other games doing better (obviously), so I don't really understand the ded gaem talk here either.
LotV is going to put Starcraft right back up where it belongs.
LotV will cause a small increase in interest. it won't cause viewer #s to exceed CS:Go's viewer #s.
seeing CS:Go's viewer #s i don't get how any one can be angry with Dreamhack for dropping SC2 as their main game.
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On March 11 2015 20:14 b3nd3r wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2015 01:52 nkr wrote:On March 11 2015 01:48 b3nd3r wrote:
Why not rename DreamHack to CSgoHack? Lost my respect for DH, just ridiculous now You know, Dreamhack was around for one and a half decade before sc2 got released. It owes nothing to Sc2. Be glad they are still holding tournaments for the game rather than actually going for more popular games like hearthstone, lol, dota or whatever You know, when CS:GO is the only played game on the majority of specific tournaments, they're not really tournaments anymore. They are just CS:GO events and nothing more.
You mean like the FIFA World Cup isn't a tournament because they only play football?
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So now Dreamhack is 1(sometimes 2) game event. Lol... Nice job.
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On March 13 2015 22:27 Pr0wler wrote:
So now Dreamhack is 1(sometimes 2) game event. Lol... Nice job.
DH Open != DH
guess what, last year DH Open was only 1 game with SC2, this year it's 2 games with SC2 and CS:GO
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On March 13 2015 22:28 Yhamm wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2015 22:27 Pr0wler wrote:
So now Dreamhack is 1(sometimes 2) game event. Lol... Nice job. DH Open != DH guess what, last year DH Open was only 1 game with SC2, this year it's 2 games with SC2 and CS:GO
Well, I'm looking at DH summer and there is CS:GO, Street Fighter, HoN(this is still alive ?) and thats pretty much it. Ah and the swedish esports league... So, Yeah.
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still waiting for major tournaments in uk..:'( maybe next year
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I think it is safe to assume SC2 HotS was not announced for autumn and beyond because they are going to feature LotV for those tournaments
With LotV beta starting 31.3. the game will release by end of summer and it will be out and ready for DreamHack later events
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On March 13 2015 23:56 Exstasy wrote:
still waiting for major tournaments in uk..:'( maybe next year
Gfinity is major, just not premier 
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hey everybody! new user here so I couldn't start a new thread on this.. but I will be attending my first dreamhack (Tours, may 8-10) and I have a couple of quick questions for those of you who have attended one before.
How hard is it to get autographs from players? I have a couple of prints that I will be bringing along with me which I can hopefully get signed.. coming from Toronto, I've been to the WCS when they last came and they had an autograph booth where players would go randomly to sign stuff.. is there a similar booth at dreamhack? Or will I have to look for players in the playing area and ask them personally?
Also, the dreamhack.fr site isn't very detailed in its ticket information and I tried contacting them (and posting on their FB site) without any reply to this.. with a visitor ticket, would I still be able to visit the LAN area? I'm assuming that I will still be able to access that area, just that I won't have my own space for my own computer (which is fine since I'm not planning on joining any tournaments myself). I just want to be able to walk around and watch people play and again, hopefully get some autographs!
thanks in advance!
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