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Scarlett takes a break from SCII, moves to DotA2

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orllyfools
Profile Joined May 2012
United States153 Posts
February 06 2015 20:18 GMT
#1
Though she says in the interview she might be back by the end of Feb.


http://kotaku.com/one-of-starcrafts-biggest-players-is-leaving-for-dota-2-1684244604?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow


Scarlett seems uninterested in how her hobby is categorised. At 20, she has earned a good living from StarCraft II, winning $111,000 in tournaments and thousands more while playing in a team league. She has become famous for her daring strategies on the digital pitch and also brave in her decision to reveal that she is transgender within a culture around video games that is often associated with misogyny.

"I plan to go to college next," she says. "Maybe study Korean or computer science. I think e-sports players should think about higher education before they get too old. We don't know how popular this will be in the future. If you focus 100% on e-sports till you are 35 or so and it doesn't continue to become mainstream, I think it could be harder in life later on."1

Once concern that plagues this, the first generation of so-called cyber athletes, is shared with their counterparts in physical sport: for how long will their minds and bodies be quick enough to enable top-level play. While e-sports are a sedentary pursuit, one's action-per-minute rate (how many clicks of the mouse and keyboard one is able to make) is crucial to top-level StarCraft II play, as is a nimble mind. Scarlett, however, disagrees. "I think the decline is overstated," she says. "People say after the age of 25 that you won't be able to compete in e-sports any more. I don't believe that's true. In most other sports you are able to compete till you are 35-40. E-sports is even less of a physical activity. You can play till 40 easily; I don't think this would affect how well you are able to play video games."
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GreenMash
Profile Joined August 2012
Norway1746 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 20:24:33
February 06 2015 20:23 GMT
#2
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Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
February 06 2015 20:25 GMT
#3
How do you name a thread and contradict yourself in the first line of the post?
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 06 2015 20:25 GMT
#4
Misleading, old news, and you spelled Scarlett wrong. Also, Kotaku is shit
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goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
February 06 2015 20:26 GMT
#5
The decline with age is definitely overstated. People say the same about other sports, and you then you have guys like Anderson Silva fighting at age 40. But for some reason people in esports think your mind and reflexes go dull by age 25.
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
February 06 2015 20:30 GMT
#6
On February 07 2015 05:25 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Misleading, old news, and you spelled Scarlett wrong. Also, Kotaku is shit

The original source is an article from The Guardian : http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/06/sacha-hostyn-scarlett-starcraft-dota2-video-gaming
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KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
February 06 2015 20:30 GMT
#7
news from right after her wcs challanger match loss
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 06 2015 20:32 GMT
#8
Get the fuck outta here with that Gawker clickbait
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
February 06 2015 20:34 GMT
#9
changed the title to takes a break; cause the first sentence of the OP implies this and fuck clickbait
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14464 Posts
February 06 2015 20:36 GMT
#10
On February 07 2015 05:34 Lorning wrote:
changed the title to takes a break; cause the first sentence of the OP implies this and fuck clickbait

Lorning you are such a god.
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Bastinian
Profile Joined October 2014
Serbia177 Posts
February 06 2015 20:37 GMT
#11
I come from DOTA 2 to SC2 1 year ago. She's not gonna be really happy there...
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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
February 06 2015 20:37 GMT
#12
On February 07 2015 05:26 goswser wrote:
The decline with age is definitely overstated. People say the same about other sports, and you then you have guys like Anderson Silva fighting at age 40. But for some reason people in esports think your mind and reflexes go dull by age 25.


I think this mainly comes from the old Korean Brood War mindset, where players had to eventually do their military service in their early-mid 20's, and that would pretty much be career ending. This doesn't even account for burnout rate which is very real due to the shear amount of time that BW pros played back in the day.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 06 2015 20:42 GMT
#13
On February 07 2015 05:30 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 05:25 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Misleading, old news, and you spelled Scarlett wrong. Also, Kotaku is shit

The original source is an article from The Guardian : http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/06/sacha-hostyn-scarlett-starcraft-dota2-video-gaming

Still misleading. This title says something different than what most of the article says and what we know from what she's said.
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
February 06 2015 20:51 GMT
#14
Title isn't remotely close to the content in OP.
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4280 Posts
February 06 2015 20:52 GMT
#15
On February 07 2015 05:37 Whiplash wrote:
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On February 07 2015 05:26 goswser wrote:
The decline with age is definitely overstated. People say the same about other sports, and you then you have guys like Anderson Silva fighting at age 40. But for some reason people in esports think your mind and reflexes go dull by age 25.


I think this mainly comes from the old Korean Brood War mindset, where players had to eventually do their military service in their early-mid 20's, and that would pretty much be career ending. This doesn't even account for burnout rate which is very real due to the shear amount of time that BW pros played back in the day.

I think a lot of it has to also because these BW players are like playing BW nonstop in their teamhouse for years.

At the same time, when you enter your late 20s, thats when you think about settling down, nice job, starting a family, buying a house, so that's probably also a huge factor.
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virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
February 06 2015 21:01 GMT
#16
I have to agree on the age thing. I think that the whole "you can't play well after 25" stuff has to do with the fact that most
korean players are basically burned out when they're 22 or 23. (especially kespa players) And then there's always the dreaded military service, which looms over every korean e-sport pro.
With deliberate practice and a healthy lifestyle it should easily be possible to compete at the highest level until 30 or even 35. Of course, it's getting harder over time (less motivation, other obligations, etc.), but it's possible. Bomber basically peaked last year and he was 26 back then. Or just think of Nestea. (of course, SC2 was young back then, but his accomplishments still stand for themselves.)
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Pontius Pirate
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United States1557 Posts
February 06 2015 21:14 GMT
#17
On February 07 2015 06:01 virpi wrote:
I have to agree on the age thing. I think that the whole "you can't play well after 25" stuff has to do with the fact that most
korean players are basically burned out when they're 22 or 23. (especially kespa players) And then there's always the dreaded military service, which looms over every korean e-sport pro.
With deliberate practice and a healthy lifestyle it should easily be possible to compete at the highest level until 30 or even 35. Of course, it's getting harder over time (less motivation, other obligations, etc.), but it's possible. Bomber basically peaked last year and he was 26 back then. Or just think of Nestea. (of course, SC2 was young back then, but his accomplishments still stand for themselves.)

The issue that is often cited is the decrease of the speed of small motor movements such as in the fingers that occurs after 26. It's disingenuous to cite other sports that are more reliant on one's full body to perform at a professional level.
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
February 06 2015 21:50 GMT
#18
Hopefully she does better than SeleCT.
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UberNuB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States365 Posts
February 06 2015 21:58 GMT
#19
I think it's funny how so many people QQ saying their race is awful and that's the reason they lose. Then go on to say it's too difficult to switch races and stay competitive. Yet, lots of people think they can change games and stay competitive.

gl, to Scarlett, but changing to an established game just doesn't seem viable.
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
February 06 2015 22:04 GMT
#20
Good luck Scarlett.
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