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Scarlett takes a break from SCII, moves to DotA2 - Page 3
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rafaliusz
Poland482 Posts
Sorry to burst your bubble but you should do some research on how professional sports work. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On February 07 2015 08:53 Unleashing wrote: Select was also supposedly a really good dota 1 player, and we all know how his venture into dota2 went, lol. Would be neat if she accomplishes more than select if she really makes the switch though. Babyknight also was, and he was the worst player on his T3 team by a long shot. The only SC2 players I can think of that made the switch and weren't awful are Aui and EE, though they certainly weren't as notable as Scarlett is or Select was. | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On February 07 2015 09:04 Daralii wrote: Babyknight also was, and he was the worst player on his T3 team by a long shot. The only SC2 players I can think of that made the switch and weren't awful are Aui and EE, though they certainly weren't as notable as Scarlett is or Select was. So was IceIceIce, but they all had a strong amount of competitive history and they were Dota/HoN players first, SC2 players second. | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
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argonautdice
Canada2704 Posts
On February 07 2015 08:17 Yakikorosu wrote: I know nothing about the biology of this, but does someone have some reputable scientific backup for the idea that there is a significant decline in "speed of small motor movements" after your mid-20s? I hear this mentioned all the time like it's a fact but never any backup given. I remember Tastosis talking about this idea at some point and not that they're experts on this but they were saying that it's a myth. Not to mention the whole "finger speed" concept makes it sound like APM is a key deciding factor in who the top SC2 players are and that just has never been true. It's this one: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0094215 though I have to say, even if the decline is statistically significant, doesn't mean you can't be a success player after age 24, since starcraft also involves a lot of builds and clever maneuvering, but I'd say a lot aspects of TvZ - responding to drops, dodging mines, splitting against banes, muta control, etc. - would matter in terms of the so-called cognitive-motor response. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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Alucen-Will-
United States4054 Posts
On February 07 2015 10:21 stuchiu wrote: So do these people not know who Kasparov is or? I thought I had read something incorrectly the first time I went through it. I expect a lot more from the guardian, considering it's reputation. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On February 07 2015 10:55 Alucen-Will- wrote: I thought I had read something incorrectly the first time I went through it. I expect a lot more from the guardian, considering it's reputation. They're barely above Kotaku when it comes to their gaming shit and have been for a while. | ||
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
On February 07 2015 08:08 vult wrote: >Switches to DotA 2 >"will be back at end of February" Change the title pl0z | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On February 07 2015 08:41 ROOTFayth wrote: actually she'd prob be a top player at any game she actually puts effort in, like most people who were top players at some point That doesn't work like that. Want a good exmaple in sports ? Look up what Kimi Raikkonen did in Rally when taking a break from Formula 1. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
On February 07 2015 08:45 Kipsate wrote: Several other Starcraft players tried and haven't gotten it, she has no history in competitive Dota or teamgames to my knowledge for that matter(and those others did). I see no reason why she succeeds while others fail. You need more then skill and passion to play in a good dota 2 team. no, you just need skill and passion, passion is allowing you to play a lot, and by playing a lot you get to the top, it's funny you talk as if it was harder to get to the top at Dota 2 than it is starcraft... I mean what the hell, anything competitive requires dedication, esport all requires approximately the same set of skills | ||
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LongShot27
United States2084 Posts
On February 07 2015 12:30 ROOTFayth wrote: no, you just need skill and passion, passion is allowing you to play a lot, and by playing a lot you get to the top, it's funny you talk as if it was harder to get to the top at Dota 2 than it is starcraft... I mean what the hell, anything competitive requires dedication, esport all requires approximately the same set of skills Yeah they definetly dont, different games are much easier than others, some have higher skill ceilings. Some games are only about micro, some games require better reflexes, some require more analytical thinking. And skill and passion aren't enough, you need a lot of luck plus skill plus determination | ||
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Blargh
United States2101 Posts
On February 07 2015 12:33 LongShot27 wrote: Yeah they definetly dont, different games are much easier than others, some have higher skill ceilings. Some games are only about micro, some games require better reflexes, some require more analytical thinking. And skill and passion aren't enough, you need a lot of luck plus skill plus determination The only significant difference in types of "skills" you need to know between Dota 2 and SC2 is game knowledge and teamwork. Other than that, her other skills from SC2 should transfer over just fine. Map awareness? Shit, I bet Scarlett has better map awareness than most Dota 2 pros. Multitasking? Should not be a problem... | ||
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spekTatoR
Canada2 Posts
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
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jubil
United States2602 Posts
Just look at the transition from WCIII to SCII, two games of the same genre; the very top WCIII players were only decent in SCII, and even then only when the game was still pretty new. Going from an RTS to a MOBA is an even bigger jump. | ||
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lestye
United States4135 Posts
But let's be real, if it's NA Dota, she has a good chance. The hardest part of being a really good Dota player, is finding the ideal team. You have to hope the right people are looking for a team at the same time and have the chemistry they need. I'm sure there are TONS of really good players that go years without a title because they just didn't have the team to do it. | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
That study on aging doesn't prove anything really. It's 1 study done on a complicated subject with endless variables. I can say for myself my apm/wpm is the highest it's ever been at 27, 170 and 100 respectively. | ||
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