The WCS Ro32 roups are being re-drawn tonight (sometime before 00:00 GMT (+00:00)) after errors in the previous draw. Lots of rumors were floating around for the past few days, so TeamLiquid got in contact with ESL to clarify some concerns raised.
A topic that caused some uncertainty was the issue of whether or not it's fine for multiple players from the same region to be drawn into the same group. After having consulted with ESL, they confirmed that there can be a maximum of 2 players from the same region in one group. The previous draw did not conform to this rule and therefore has to be re-done.
Furthermore, it's been confirmed to us that NaNiwa was accidentally drawn from the wrong pool, furthering the need for a re-draw.
We were also informed that ESL have taken measures to accommodate for visa issues to allow Chinese participants to play in their Burbank studios. That means that the groups containing Chinese players will be held in the US. This however does not affect the decision to change the groups.
Now this is interesting news, thanks a lot. Makes sense with the chinese players and no more than 2 of the same region in a group. Very glad they re-draw and don't just roll along with their mistakes.
Wow miscommunication much ? Well, I guess there is a positive to it, because these groups were rather unexciting imo. All my favourite players in group 2...
On January 28 2015 01:59 Madars wrote: Finger crossed for NaNiWa, Polt, ForGG and Violet in the same group of hype-death, make it happen!
Can't happen, though. Only one NA player can be in one group...
Where did you get that? In op "there can be a maximum of 2 players from the same region in one group."
He's probably assuming that since NA has 8 spots it will be one bowl, thus making it impossible for two NA players to be in the same group. Since we don't know how the bowls will be done we can't know if this assumption is correct though. About the OP : it is quite sad, but at the same time there was no way to continue with the groups that were drawn before given the Naniwa error. What they should have done would have been to redraw it immediatly when they realized Naniwa was misplaced.
On January 28 2015 01:41 Nuubie wrote: Only in esports, shouldn't have to happen after more than 4 years of competitive Starcraft II.
On January 28 2015 01:46 SkyTheUnknown wrote: Disgraceful for SC II as an eSport. No apologize by the responsible authorities so far?
On January 28 2015 01:48 TheDwf wrote: Pathetic; only confirms the fact that this WCS season is unreadable
On January 28 2015 02:24 AyaaLa wrote: Geez. What a gigantic clusterfuck. How hard is it to draw some groups? This is really unprofessional
wow you guys. nobody died. it was just Naniwa being put into the wrong bowl and the controversial "CIS" assignment. It sounds like you've never made mistakes before.
On January 28 2015 02:24 AyaaLa wrote: Geez. What a gigantic clusterfuck. How hard is it to draw some groups? This is really unprofessional
wow you guys. nobody died. it was just Naniwa being put into the wrong bowl and the controversial "CIS" assignment. It sounds like you've never made mistakes before.
On January 28 2015 01:41 Nuubie wrote: Only in esports, shouldn't have to happen after more than 4 years of competitive Starcraft II.
On January 28 2015 01:46 SkyTheUnknown wrote: Disgraceful for SC II as an eSport. No apologize by the responsible authorities so far?
On January 28 2015 01:48 TheDwf wrote: Pathetic; only confirms the fact that this WCS season is unreadable
On January 28 2015 02:24 AyaaLa wrote: Geez. What a gigantic clusterfuck. How hard is it to draw some groups? This is really unprofessional
wow you guys. nobody died. it was just Naniwa being put into the wrong bowl and the controversial "CIS" assignment. It sounds like you've never made mistakes before.
It IS really unprofessional though.
How hard is it to get this right?
How much money is in all of eSports? How much money does the NFL generate per year?
Have you seen any of the ridiculously incompetent crap that has gone down this year in one of the most profitable leagues in the world?
On January 28 2015 01:41 Nuubie wrote: Only in esports, shouldn't have to happen after more than 4 years of competitive Starcraft II.
On January 28 2015 01:46 SkyTheUnknown wrote: Disgraceful for SC II as an eSport. No apologize by the responsible authorities so far?
On January 28 2015 01:48 TheDwf wrote: Pathetic; only confirms the fact that this WCS season is unreadable
On January 28 2015 02:24 AyaaLa wrote: Geez. What a gigantic clusterfuck. How hard is it to draw some groups? This is really unprofessional
wow you guys. nobody died. it was just Naniwa being put into the wrong bowl and the controversial "CIS" assignment. It sounds like you've never made mistakes before.
It IS really unprofessional though.
How hard is it to get this right?
How much money is in all of eSports? How much money does the NFL generate per year?
Have you seen any of the ridiculously incompetent crap that has gone down this year in one of the most profitable leagues in the world?
THe NFL is doing something a little more complicated than drawing names from a bowl though.
Though I agree that there are a lot of incompetent people everywhere.
You can just tell that the Sc2 community has it's blood flowing from all the recent drama. This is what we were missing for so long!!
I do wonder how they managed to mess it up. Even then, though. I wouldn't have considered it at all a big deal. It was still very well distributed. I think the real reason for the redraw is that they saw Firecake with 3 protoss and knew that just wouldn't work.
On January 28 2015 01:41 Nuubie wrote: Only in esports, shouldn't have to happen after more than 4 years of competitive Starcraft II.
On January 28 2015 01:46 SkyTheUnknown wrote: Disgraceful for SC II as an eSport. No apologize by the responsible authorities so far?
On January 28 2015 01:48 TheDwf wrote: Pathetic; only confirms the fact that this WCS season is unreadable
On January 28 2015 02:24 AyaaLa wrote: Geez. What a gigantic clusterfuck. How hard is it to draw some groups? This is really unprofessional
wow you guys. nobody died. it was just Naniwa being put into the wrong bowl and the controversial "CIS" assignment. It sounds like you've never made mistakes before.
It IS really unprofessional though.
How hard is it to get this right?
They made a mistake, and now they are fixing it. I think thats as professional as it gets.
On January 28 2015 01:59 Madars wrote: Finger crossed for NaNiWa, Polt, ForGG and Violet in the same group of hype-death, make it happen!
Can't happen, though. Only one NA player can be in one group...
Where did you get that? In op "there can be a maximum of 2 players from the same region in one group."
This rule is there specially for the EU players, becouse there are more than 8 of them. Since there is 8 NA players and 8 groups, there will be 1 drawing basket for NA players, so they can't be in group with each other...
On January 28 2015 01:41 Nuubie wrote: Only in esports, shouldn't have to happen after more than 4 years of competitive Starcraft II.
On January 28 2015 01:46 SkyTheUnknown wrote: Disgraceful for SC II as an eSport. No apologize by the responsible authorities so far?
On January 28 2015 01:48 TheDwf wrote: Pathetic; only confirms the fact that this WCS season is unreadable
On January 28 2015 02:24 AyaaLa wrote: Geez. What a gigantic clusterfuck. How hard is it to draw some groups? This is really unprofessional
wow you guys. nobody died. it was just Naniwa being put into the wrong bowl and the controversial "CIS" assignment. It sounds like you've never made mistakes before.
It IS really unprofessional though.
How hard is it to get this right?
How much money is in all of eSports? How much money does the NFL generate per year?
Have you seen any of the ridiculously incompetent crap that has gone down this year in one of the most profitable leagues in the world?
THe NFL is doing something a little more complicated than drawing names from a bowl though.
Though I agree that there are a lot of incompetent people everywhere.
Draw 8 America players to each group Draw 8 Europe players to each group Draw 4 China players to US studio groups Draw 4 Europe players to EU studio groups Draw 4 Latin America/SEA/Taiwan players to EU studio groups Mix 4 remaining players together (2 EU and 2 LA/SEA/TW players left) Draw 4 remaining players to US studio groups Then shuffle the 4 names in each group and draw for opening matchups within the group.
On January 28 2015 01:41 Nuubie wrote: Only in esports, shouldn't have to happen after more than 4 years of competitive Starcraft II.
On January 28 2015 01:46 SkyTheUnknown wrote: Disgraceful for SC II as an eSport. No apologize by the responsible authorities so far?
On January 28 2015 01:48 TheDwf wrote: Pathetic; only confirms the fact that this WCS season is unreadable
On January 28 2015 02:24 AyaaLa wrote: Geez. What a gigantic clusterfuck. How hard is it to draw some groups? This is really unprofessional
wow you guys. nobody died. it was just Naniwa being put into the wrong bowl and the controversial "CIS" assignment. It sounds like you've never made mistakes before.
It IS really unprofessional though.
How hard is it to get this right?
pretty hard if you do something new and don't have everything ready even. It would be a surprise if everything went smooth on the first try, often you don't notice something went wrong, but in esport its rather open since alot of people are involved and love twitter.
On January 28 2015 01:41 Nuubie wrote: Only in esports, shouldn't have to happen after more than 4 years of competitive Starcraft II.
On January 28 2015 01:46 SkyTheUnknown wrote: Disgraceful for SC II as an eSport. No apologize by the responsible authorities so far?
On January 28 2015 01:48 TheDwf wrote: Pathetic; only confirms the fact that this WCS season is unreadable
On January 28 2015 02:24 AyaaLa wrote: Geez. What a gigantic clusterfuck. How hard is it to draw some groups? This is really unprofessional
wow you guys. nobody died. it was just Naniwa being put into the wrong bowl and the controversial "CIS" assignment. It sounds like you've never made mistakes before.
It IS really unprofessional though.
How hard is it to get this right?
pretty hard if you do something new and don't have everything ready even. It would be a surprise if everything went smooth on the first try, often you don't notice something went wrong, but in esport its rather open since alot of people are involved and love twitter.
Seriously, if the people who did the drawing knew the rules how the drawing were to be made, there shouldnt have been a problem. Even if you do something for the first time, following instructions shouldn't be a problem for an adult.
ESL admins are so incompetent. More than not broadcasting draws, everybody finds the different WCS draws very strange.
Now they are so bad that they made mistake and want to redraw it ! HA HA SO PRO !
Please consider that hazard is important in a draw (even if we don't know how your draws are made), please consider the hazard as a key in the main SC2 competition and assume. Don't draw again and let the players play.
Can you imagine FIFA redraw a World Cup ? No. Be professionnal now.
Redrawing is preventing this competition from the fair hazard and will make all the players mad about the new draw...
On January 28 2015 03:02 DScorpio wrote: Seems like it should be drawn like this:
Draw 8 America players to each group Draw 8 Europe players to each group Draw 4 China players to US studio groups Draw 4 Europe players to EU studio groups Draw 4 Latin America/SEA/Taiwan players to EU studio groups Mix 4 remaining players together (2 EU and 2 LA/SEA/TW players left) Draw 4 remaining players to US studio groups Then shuffle the 4 names in each group and draw for opening matchups within the group.
This sounds like a good system. I hope they craft something similar and just follow it point by point to avoid confusion.
But sometimes it's difficult to remember who is from which region and what were the regions to begin with. I know I've done this kind of mistake too in a group draw.
Edit: I think it's great that they are doing a redraw. I guess many people would not be calling them unprofessional if it was not for the redraw. Realizing mistakes and correcting them even if it makes you look bad is professional conduct.
On January 28 2015 03:17 Stabillo wrote: ESL admins are so incompetent. More than not broadcasting draws, everybody finds the different WCS draws very strange.
Now they are so bad that they made mistake and want to redraw it ! HA HA SO PRO !
Please consider that hazard is important in a draw (even if we don't know how your draws are made), please consider the hazard as a key in the main SC2 competition and assume. Don't draw again and let the players play.
Can you imagine FIFA redraw a World Cup ? No. Be professionnal now.
Redrawing is preventing this competition from the fair hazard and will make all the players mad about the new draw...
Rather fix their mistake than let it be and have somebody get fucked over by it.
The whole lack of professionalism this season, from stuff like this to still having no solid source we can refer to for rules, has me pretty bummed out about Blizzard's #dedication to Starcraft. Hopefully things get better as the year goes on.
On January 28 2015 03:17 Stabillo wrote: ESL admins are so incompetent. More than not broadcasting draws, everybody finds the different WCS draws very strange.
Now they are so bad that they made mistake and want to redraw it ! HA HA SO PRO !
Please consider that hazard is important in a draw (even if we don't know how your draws are made), please consider the hazard as a key in the main SC2 competition and assume. Don't draw again and let the players play.
Can you imagine FIFA redraw a World Cup ? No. Be professionnal now.
Redrawing is preventing this competition from the fair hazard and will make all the players mad about the new draw...
They would probably have to redraw too. But I just can't imagine, they would fuck up this badly...
On January 28 2015 03:17 Stabillo wrote: ESL admins are so incompetent. More than not broadcasting draws, everybody finds the different WCS draws very strange.
Now they are so bad that they made mistake and want to redraw it ! HA HA SO PRO !
Please consider that hazard is important in a draw (even if we don't know how your draws are made), please consider the hazard as a key in the main SC2 competition and assume. Don't draw again and let the players play.
Can you imagine FIFA redraw a World Cup ? No. Be professionnal now.
Redrawing is preventing this competition from the fair hazard and will make all the players mad about the new draw...
Since you posted roughly the same thing in the other thread I'll do the same answer :
Isn't redrawing pretty standard and professional when the drawing is flawed and has to be modified post-drawing, meaning it does not totally respect the luck/randomness factor? FIFA would totally redraw a World Cup if there was a flaw as major as one team being in the wrong bowl (assuming it goes public ofc). The only difference is that FIFA would have probably done the redraw immediatly or after a very short delay, not two days after (and would have announced it immediately, not one day after lol).
On January 28 2015 02:24 AyaaLa wrote: Geez. What a gigantic clusterfuck. How hard is it to draw some groups? This is really unprofessional
wow you guys. nobody died. it was just Naniwa being put into the wrong bowl and the controversial "CIS" assignment. It sounds like you've never made mistakes before.
I'm not one to jump down anyone's throat, not even Blizzard's, when they mess up, but this *is* unprofessional. Really how hard is it to get something like this right? It's not like ESL, or Blizzard, are little start-ups who are organizing something like this for the first time. It's not even the first time a redraw has to happen either. I love the new format, but I really hope they get their shit in order for the next season.
On January 28 2015 03:17 Stabillo wrote: ESL admins are so incompetent. More than not broadcasting draws, everybody finds the different WCS draws very strange.
Now they are so bad that they made mistake and want to redraw it ! HA HA SO PRO !
Please consider that hazard is important in a draw (even if we don't know how your draws are made), please consider the hazard as a key in the main SC2 competition and assume. Don't draw again and let the players play.
Can you imagine FIFA redraw a World Cup ? No. Be professionnal now.
Redrawing is preventing this competition from the fair hazard and will make all the players mad about the new draw...
The only way to fix a botched draw is to redraw. They're doing to correct thing. The only fair thing. That isn't the problem. The problem is it being needed in the first place.
I can guarantee you that if somehow FIFA cocked up the World Cup drawings, that they *would* redraw. If they didn't, *then* they'd catch a lot of flack from the member nations and public.
When Nathanias pulled Naniwa's card out, the back of it was clearly marked, where the others did not appear to be marked(I could be wrong about that but I payed attention and did not see another card marked). That alone merits a redraw in my opinion. I understand the admin was tired and i'm sure Nathanias was too, but, people are trying to make a living off of this tournament, quit fucking around!
On January 28 2015 03:17 Stabillo wrote: ESL admins are so incompetent. More than not broadcasting draws, everybody finds the different WCS draws very strange.
Now they are so bad that they made mistake and want to redraw it ! HA HA SO PRO !
Please consider that hazard is important in a draw (even if we don't know how your draws are made), please consider the hazard as a key in the main SC2 competition and assume. Don't draw again and let the players play.
Can you imagine FIFA redraw a World Cup ? No. Be professionnal now.
Redrawing is preventing this competition from the fair hazard and will make all the players mad about the new draw...
The only way to fix a botched draw is to redraw. They're doing to correct thing. The only fair thing. That isn't the problem. The problem is it being needed in the first place.
I can guarantee you that if somehow FIFA cocked up the World Cup drawings, that they *would* redraw. If they didn't, *then* they'd catch a lot of flack from the member nations and public.
Actually, if I recall correctly, someone (I think it was Jeròme Walcke) messed up in the live draw for the FIFA Confederations Cup in 2013, I don't remember exactly what they did to fix it, but they surely didn't remake the draw.
On January 28 2015 04:03 Die4Ever wrote: so any idea when they're doing this redraw? not sure if I should post the IEM Taipei WCS Predictor preview before or after the redraw lol
Well the OP indicates that's it's around 00:00 GMT
On January 28 2015 03:17 Stabillo wrote: ESL admins are so incompetent. More than not broadcasting draws, everybody finds the different WCS draws very strange.
Now they are so bad that they made mistake and want to redraw it ! HA HA SO PRO !
Please consider that hazard is important in a draw (even if we don't know how your draws are made), please consider the hazard as a key in the main SC2 competition and assume. Don't draw again and let the players play.
Can you imagine FIFA redraw a World Cup ? No. Be professionnal now.
Redrawing is preventing this competition from the fair hazard and will make all the players mad about the new draw...
The only way to fix a botched draw is to redraw. They're doing to correct thing. The only fair thing. That isn't the problem. The problem is it being needed in the first place.
I can guarantee you that if somehow FIFA cocked up the World Cup drawings, that they *would* redraw. If they didn't, *then* they'd catch a lot of flack from the member nations and public.
Actually, if I recall correctly, someone (I think it was Jeròme Walcke) messed up in the live draw for the FIFA Confederations Cup in 2013, I don't remember exactly what they did to fix it, but they surely didn't remake the draw.
On January 28 2015 04:03 Die4Ever wrote: so any idea when they're doing this redraw? not sure if I should post the IEM Taipei WCS Predictor preview before or after the redraw lol
On January 28 2015 04:03 Die4Ever wrote: so any idea when they're doing this redraw? not sure if I should post the IEM Taipei WCS Predictor preview before or after the redraw lol
Well the OP indicates that's it's around 00:00 GMT
Just before IEM Taipei? I guess that works out, too bad I forgot to turn on my home pc before I went to work lol, my laptop will do the job but it's quite a bit slower.
Players will be split into four pools for Season 1:
Pool 1 - all USA and Canada region players Pool 2 - 8 random Europe region players Pool 3 - 2 random Europe region players, 2 Oceania/SEA players, 2 Latin America players Pool 4 - 4 China region players, 2 Taiwan region players, 2 spots reserved for Europe region players with difficulty obtaining US Visas All China region players will play Ro32 groups in US
lol, they are already missing 2 players in the 3rd pool
Players will be split into four pools for Season 1:
Pool 1 - all USA and Canada region players Pool 2 - 8 random Europe region players Pool 3 - 2 random Europe region players, 2 Oceania/SEA players, 2 Latin America players Pool 4 - 4 China region players, 2 Taiwan region players, 2 spots reserved for Europe region players with difficulty obtaining US Visas All China region players will play Ro32 groups in US
lol, they are already missing 2 players in the 3rd pool
Players will be split into four pools for Season 1:
Pool 1 - all USA and Canada region players Pool 2 - 8 random Europe region players Pool 3 - 2 random Europe region players, 2 Oceania/SEA players, 2 Latin America players Pool 4 - 4 China region players, 2 Taiwan region players, 2 spots reserved for Europe region players with difficulty obtaining US Visas All China region players will play Ro32 groups in US
lol, they are already missing 2 players in the 3rd pool
I dunno if that's saddening or absolutely hilarious.
People seriously need to chill. All and i mean ALL organizations makes a mistake every once in awhile. They quickly revealed this to the community and will have a re-draw.
I hope Naniwa and Kane get in the same group though... talk about Hype train!
On January 28 2015 05:13 Jornada wrote: People seriously need to chill. All and i mean ALL organizations makes a mistake every once in awhile. They quickly revealed this to the community and will have a re-draw.
I hope Naniwa and Kane get in the same group though... talk about Hype train!
On January 28 2015 05:13 Jornada wrote: People seriously need to chill. All and i mean ALL organizations makes a mistake every once in awhile. They quickly revealed this to the community and will have a re-draw.
I hope Naniwa and Kane get in the same group though... talk about Hype train!
I don't understand why they're doing the draw this way, putting Taiwan with China guarantees that Taiwan competes in Europe, and also ensures they avoid playing the two EU players with visa restrictions (I assume those are Happy and Mana).
My question is how can some amateur ESL guys be in charge of this all? it was bound to get messed up.
And to remove all of the initial group hype now, and create this much confusion... wow... Blizz, you went from everyone being super hyped, to a complete clusterfuck, grats. How you could leave everything to ESL is beyond me, they are OBVIOUSLY not up for the task. It was really embarrasing to watch that one guy on the draw stream just laugh it all away, giggling, like it was no big deal that Naniwa was in the wrong basket.. eSports is never going to be taken serious with ppl like this
On January 28 2015 05:13 Jornada wrote: People seriously need to chill. All and i mean ALL organizations makes a mistake every once in awhile. They quickly revealed this to the community and will have a re-draw.
I hope Naniwa and Kane get in the same group though... talk about Hype train!
Looking foward to seeing draw. DO WE HAVE A TIME?
Quickly? They noticed the fault at the initial draw, they could have fixed it right there, by taking an hour off and reset the whole thing, they didnt.. The only reason they are doing a re-draw now is that the fuck-up was noticed by players and the community. Have you seen twitter msg's from the players? They are not impressed.
Putting Poland in a CIS group too, lol. I would expect the ppl in charge of something like this to have actually seen a world map. But it's typical.
honestly the groups were fine, there was no ridiculous groups (b was somewhat crazy) but that could pretty much happen anyway
had people not bitched they prob would have let this go, so re grouping does appease the community somewhat but it can fuck up the players who have already been practicing for groups that are now worthless...pretty stupid
I really want to say all the secret infos right now, is ESL thinking that we don't care about the game ? A 5 minuts stream ? Come on, you don't really give a shit about WCS.
Good thing they took their time to do it right this time lol, so rushed. Single folded pieces of paper which were readable from outside the crappy bowls, no mixing... wtf
On January 28 2015 06:21 Cricketer12 wrote: honestly the groups were fine, there was no ridiculous groups (b was somewhat crazy) but that could pretty much happen anyway
had people not bitched they prob would have let this go, so re grouping does appease the community somewhat but it can fuck up the players who have already been practicing for groups that are now worthless...pretty stupid
Yes, fixing a mistake which goes against your own rules is the bad thing to do ... shame on people for calling it out. And then those 16 of practice all gone to waste. Everyone's chances! Ruined!
On January 28 2015 07:14 Superiorwolf wrote: How good is has right now
~100 KR GM, sometimes a bit above. He's one of those guys who doesn't barcode which I think is a good idea because he knows people will play obscenely safe against him at this point so he has to live in a world where he gets metagamed.
If you do play him btw, win or lose, unplug your keyboard, hop atop the table and smack him around the face as hard as you fucking can. I wanna see a shower of blood teeth and keys flying outta there.
On January 28 2015 07:14 Superiorwolf wrote: How good is has right now
~100 KR GM, sometimes a bit above. He's one of those guys who doesn't barcode which I think is a good idea because he knows people will play obscenely safe against him at this point so he has to live in a world where he gets metagamed.
If you do play him btw, win or lose, unplug your keyboard, hop atop the table and smack him around the face as hard as you fucking can. I wanna see a shower of blood teeth and keys flying outta there.
On January 28 2015 07:14 Superiorwolf wrote: How good is has right now
be prepared for cannon rushs.
Haha yes I know I lost to him in TESL last year so I'm familiar with his . . . Style hahaha.
On January 28 2015 07:12 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On January 28 2015 07:11 Thax wrote: Ok, NOW, people's whining is a bit over the top. What exactly where you guys expecting, a 2 hour stage show?
Noone is calling for group selections event, but having some respect for competition after you messed up isn't something hardcore to pull off tbh.
On January 28 2015 07:11 Superiorwolf wrote: Lol I got Naniwa again Where's my terrans lolol zvt good matchup!!!!!!!
Just advance with him <3.
:S I hope so! I think the last group was a bit better for me but maybe only marginally
hopefully you don't have to fly to europe because there are 2 euros in your group
Oh god yeah I hope I'm not EU because I don't think I could make it with school going on... I appealed to them to see if I could get NA again (my previous draw was NA) but ye if it's EU maybe it'll be the GGerino forfeiterino? T.T dunno I'll have to hope for the best
On January 28 2015 07:21 Superiorwolf wrote: I only had two match ups last draw too @wonderful! Two Protoss and one Terran. I guess kelazhur is a bit of a wildcard though
Thx iaguz heh how do you feel about your group?
God dammit, fuck exams. Hope you're not going to forfeit though and school will allow you to advance <3
On January 28 2015 07:14 Superiorwolf wrote: How good is has right now
be prepared for cannon rushs.
Haha yes I know I lost to him in TESL last year so I'm familiar with his . . . Style hahaha.
On January 28 2015 07:12 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On January 28 2015 07:11 Thax wrote: Ok, NOW, people's whining is a bit over the top. What exactly where you guys expecting, a 2 hour stage show?
Noone is calling for group selections event, but having some respect for competition after you messed up isn't something hardcore to pull off tbh.
On January 28 2015 07:11 Superiorwolf wrote: Lol I got Naniwa again Where's my terrans lolol zvt good matchup!!!!!!!
Just advance with him <3.
:S I hope so! I think the last group was a bit better for me but maybe only marginally
hopefully you don't have to fly to europe because there are 2 euros in your group
Oh god yeah I hope I'm not EU because I don't think I could make it with school going on... I appealed to them to see if I could get NA again (my previous draw was NA) but ye if it's EU maybe it'll be the GGerino forfeiterino? T.T dunno I'll have to hope for the best
the 4 groups with a Chinese player will play in USA, the 4 others in Europe, so you are going in Europe.
On January 28 2015 07:21 Superiorwolf wrote: I only had two match ups last draw too @wonderful! Two Protoss and one Terran. I guess kelazhur is a bit of a wildcard though
Thx iaguz heh how do you feel about your group?
Doable. Nice that it's only one matchup and I dno't have to teamkill a fellow ROOT man in this one.
On January 28 2015 07:14 Superiorwolf wrote: How good is has right now
be prepared for cannon rushs.
Haha yes I know I lost to him in TESL last year so I'm familiar with his . . . Style hahaha.
On January 28 2015 07:12 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On January 28 2015 07:11 Thax wrote: Ok, NOW, people's whining is a bit over the top. What exactly where you guys expecting, a 2 hour stage show?
Noone is calling for group selections event, but having some respect for competition after you messed up isn't something hardcore to pull off tbh.
On January 28 2015 07:11 Superiorwolf wrote: Lol I got Naniwa again Where's my terrans lolol zvt good matchup!!!!!!!
Just advance with him <3.
:S I hope so! I think the last group was a bit better for me but maybe only marginally
hopefully you don't have to fly to europe because there are 2 euros in your group
Oh god yeah I hope I'm not EU because I don't think I could make it with school going on... I appealed to them to see if I could get NA again (my previous draw was NA) but ye if it's EU maybe it'll be the GGerino forfeiterino? T.T dunno I'll have to hope for the best
Called it. But yeah I was told that it was "not a problem".
On topic though : groups look balanced. However looking at the thread and ppl's reactions... Give WCS organization to O'Gaming plz.
On January 28 2015 23:25 Cinek357 wrote: Why can't we have Season 1 fully played for example in NA, Season 2 in Europe, Season 3 in NA again and then in 2016 we would start in EU?
because there is no certification that next year will be the same
On January 28 2015 23:25 Cinek357 wrote: Why can't we have Season 1 fully played for example in NA, Season 2 in Europe, Season 3 in NA again and then in 2016 we would start in EU?
That wouldn't actually fix any of the problems though. That'd just mean that, for example, the Chinese players couldn't compete at all in certain seasons. There'd still be as many potential scheduling problems.
EPT
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NaNiwa was accidentally drawn from the wrong pool, furthering the need for a re-draw.
? Well, I guess there is a positive to it, because these groups were rather unexciting imo. All my favourite players in group 2...
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