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Everlong
Czech Republic1973 Posts
On January 21 2015 07:46 Fran_ wrote: Or it's a testament that people make mistakes, even Blizzard, and they are more than willing to correct theirs. If this was true, they would have already removed SH from the game. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16081 Posts
On January 21 2015 07:45 Everlong wrote: So, Terran going mech has now 0 counters to Tempests? no race or playstyle will have an answer to tempest ht + support units | ||
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Dingodile
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Pontius Pirate
United States1557 Posts
On January 21 2015 07:40 Big J wrote: Energy nerf is an example. In general I don't think anyone enjoys any game situation in which a lot of PDDs can be dropped at once, it just renders certain units completely useless the moment this game situation arises. Personally, I'd like to have it get overkill in a way that if multiple PDDs overlap in radius, they all lose energy for each projectile one takes down*. Therefore, the good early-midgame relations with e.g. marauders or vikings would change at all, but the mass PDD bullshit would turn inefficient. *I do understand that this is hard to realize, since the way that multiple radii work, a projectile only ever touches the radius of a single PDD. But maybe there is a way, like the PDDs just connect if one is within the radius of another. You could go even more extreme in this, if you wanted. The absolutely balls-deep version of this idea would be for them to shoot down each other's shots, so that having PDDs within range of other PDDs instantly makes them useless, and thus forces sparing usage (as per early game pushes) or intelligent positioning, thus stopping the SUPER turtly sky terran ball strategies. | ||
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Tuczniak
1561 Posts
On January 21 2015 07:40 Big J wrote: You could increase PDD range and add delay between registering a projectile and disarming it. Once registered PDD would always fire and lose energy. That way projectiles would likely get intercepted by more PDDs.*I do understand that this is hard to realize, since the way that multiple radii work, a projectile only ever touches the radius of a single PDD. But maybe there is a way, like the PDDs just connect if one is within the radius of another. edit: Pontius Pirate's idea would be the best skillwise | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
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Psione
United States45 Posts
On January 21 2015 07:15 TAMinator wrote: Didnt think they'd even consider putting out some LotV stuff early thats interesting. But from that TB video showing the new locusts, shit might get crazy The idea is to balance around the new Swarm Hosts. We expect that other changes will need to be considered as we go through testing. This is the first step. We'll first need to see how these play out to know what potential changes will follow. | ||
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TheoMikkelsen
Denmark196 Posts
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bypLy
757 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On January 21 2015 07:56 Psione wrote: The idea is to balance around the new Swarm Hosts. We expect that other changes will need to be considered as we go through testing. This is the first step. We'll first need to see how these play out to know what potential changes will follow. Thank you so much for this guys! I hope we see it in the game as soon as possible. It's gonna completely shake up the meta. | ||
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ArgusDreamer
Canada63 Posts
On January 21 2015 07:48 Everlong wrote: If this was true, they would have already removed SH from the game. Your opinion is such an undenieable fact... oh wait it's still going to be in lotv. What was the relevance of butting in only too say what isn't true ? So what makes your point true other than you personal perspective of the matter? Nothing but okey. I like the SH redesign but i'm hoping protoss air late game doesn't just shit all over zerg now. Void collosus + 6 sentries can already shit over SH compositions by the 14 minute mark. I like the way protoss has a way to deal with it, my concern is rather will protoss be able to do it too often now ? More of a question i suppose lol. As for the pdd, good change been waiting for that all sc 2 long. It's been this way for so long because the raven was underutilised for a very long time. But since all the hots patches to raven, it became a godly unit. Even to this day people still haven't harnessed the full potential of the unit ( medivac boost + seeker missileing it ) I know this trick isn't easy to perform.. but neither was ling micro vs widow mines in the first 2 months of hots. I like how both the SH and raven can be used as harass+ late game options. Too many people seem to consider them as mid game + late late late game necessities but i beg to differ. You can do raven mineral line harass quite easily. People are just extremely stubborn, why play different when other styles work 30-70% of the time ( depends on your skill/opponents, a bit of rng) The entire point to a strategy game is to reformat your choices to have a higher winrate. Not for every game... not all builds have to work on every map. I swear the desire/expectation of people to make every build work on said map compared to other better maps is just highly ignorant. It has plagued balance and the relative reality of the condition per game. Which is why balance whine can be predominantly negative or entirely counterproductive. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13408 Posts
On January 21 2015 07:56 Psione wrote: The idea is to balance around the new Swarm Hosts. We expect that other changes will need to be considered as we go through testing. This is the first step. We'll first need to see how these play out to know what potential changes will follow. Thanks Psione, good to know everyone is back in the office now  | ||
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washikie
United States752 Posts
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DemigodcelpH
1138 Posts
The PDD nerf may completely imbalanced Tempests vs mech though. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On January 21 2015 07:57 bypLy wrote: poor snute, once sh is redsigned he can start at 0 Zergs everywhere now have to start at 0 against Protoss. | ||
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vhapter
Brazil677 Posts
Does this look balanced to you? I think it goes without saying that losing your nexus to single wave of flying locusts is retarded. This video alone is enough to show how imbalanced flying locusts are currently. This is not harassment, this is bullshit. | ||
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On January 21 2015 08:03 vhapter wrote: Does this look balanced to you? I think it goes without saying that losing your nexus to single wave of flying locusts is retarded. This video alone is enough to show how imbalanced flying locusts are currently. This is not harassment, this is bullshit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azu48kGR_Ro Keep in mind he invested thousands of resources into that tier 3 tech and has over 30 supply committed to it.. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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