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BamBam
745 Posts
On January 22 2015 05:50 Liliputin wrote: get salty zerg, I have just faced that swarm host cancer style on ladder, I get NaNiwa and others completely, this is ruining passion if not sc2... Marines have been ruining my passion for decades, dont see me complaining. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
One more supply on a Raven matters a lot when you need only one against Banshees? It matters if you want to mass them, it almost doesn't matter at all if you only need that one. That is one Marine less. | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
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TheCzarOfAll
United States170 Posts
On January 22 2015 06:14 KeksX wrote: How does one play that map btw? I couldn't find it on b.net... Go to the launcher and change your server to "PTR" | ||
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DemigodcelpH
1138 Posts
On January 22 2015 06:03 Energizer wrote: Marines have been ruining my passion for decades, dont see me complaining. Comparing Marines, one of the easiest units to deal with in the game, to SH is being dishonest. The SH is so toxic and unfair that it's current iteration is being shelved. | ||
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movac
Canada494 Posts
Did PDD get reduced from 180 to 20, but durable materials still apply to make it 80 seconds? | ||
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Yakikorosu
1203 Posts
Die Swarm Hosts, die. Thanks Blizzard. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On January 22 2015 06:29 DemigodcelpH wrote: Comparing Marines, one of the easiest units to deal with in the game, to SH is being dishonest. The SH is so toxic and unfair that it's current iteration is being shelved. I chuckled. Then I facepalmed because you really think that. Maybe I'll make this my signature. It's actually that funny. | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On January 22 2015 07:12 Big J wrote: I chuckled. Then I facepalmed because you really think that. Maybe I'll make this my signature. It's actually that funny. Unmicroed, unstimmed, unCSed, unsupported Marines are pretty easy to kill....... Lol | ||
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On January 22 2015 06:04 Ramiz1989 wrote: One more supply on a Raven matters a lot when you need only one against Banshees? It matters if you want to mass them, it almost doesn't matter at all if you only need that one. That is one Marine less. It's fucks with bos for no reason and is a really stupid solution. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On January 22 2015 07:15 SC2Toastie wrote: It's fucks with bos for no reason and is a really stupid solution. Well, to be fair a lot of spellcasters including the Raven would be much fairer in the lategame if they had just 3 instead of 2supply. Like HTs or that might have solved the Infestor problem of WoL without rendering the unit bad in the midgame. There is something stupid to having units that cost like 200 or 300 resources and then they cost the same supply as something that is 100/0 or 75/25. That's the main reason why certain compositions are just so much better than others in maxed scenarios, they are just double as costly (and "double" as strong) which forces everybody to start massing such high cost/low supply units eventually. (spellcasters aren't the only ones - e,g, banelings - , but some of the most prevalent) Whether that would be the best way to deal with mass Ravens I'm not sure as such stuff messes up builds and takes away from the swarmy mass army feeling of the game, but in principle I think it isn't wrong that this is a core weakness of the game. | ||
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geokilla
Canada8255 Posts
Whole new Swarm Host too. This might pose a problem for Zerg against Protoss air and Terran Mech if Locusts don't auto cast when burrowed. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10847 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On January 22 2015 07:43 geokilla wrote: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/15699096472?page=7#131 Whole new Swarm Host too. This might pose a problem for Zerg against Protoss air and Terran Mech if Locusts don't auto cast when burrowed. just fyi, those are the same stats as on the Custom LotV Alpha Mod! And I don't think it is a problem if it doesn't autocast. With 60second cooldown, I think you really want to control when you use that and you don't want to accidently have the locusts spawn and then you get attacked with empty swarm host around. | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On January 22 2015 07:45 GGzerG wrote: I don't think this is really going to fix the problem with Terrans camping and going mech vs Zerg lol...I want to see the new swarmHost though... I think it might, based on the new DPS and ability of flying locusts, it may be hard for Terran camping mech players to kill all locusts prior to them doing dmg. In the past, it was less of an issue due to siege tanks. Pure speculation on my part, nothing more, but I am very optimistic at this point. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On January 22 2015 13:11 FabledIntegral wrote: I think it might, based on the new DPS and ability of flying locusts, it may be hard for Terran camping mech players to kill all locusts prior to them doing dmg. In the past, it was less of an issue due to siege tanks. Pure speculation on my part, nothing more, but I am very optimistic at this point. I think that is the idea. Play tank defense too long and flying locusts come and wreck your shit. They force both zerg and terran to be less passive. Raven nerf is a plus here as it makes terran passive game even harder. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8760 Posts
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-NegativeZero-
United States2142 Posts
On January 22 2015 07:45 GGzerG wrote: I don't think this is really going to fix the problem with Terrans camping and going mech vs Zerg lol...I want to see the new swarmHost though... The PDD nerf should fix that. Previously the mech player could camp behind an effectively permanent PDD emplacement, but now with the 20 second timer Z should be able to bait out PDDs, retreat, and re-engage later when the PDDs are expired and the ravens' energy is diminished. That and the locust flight upgrade, as others mentioned. | ||
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klup
France612 Posts
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
Could we bring back the bunker build time discussion? | ||
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