Are they... are they actually testing Beta ideas in a test map, with no Beta in sight and many months left to make up their minds about how to change things further should that prove necessary?

My God. This is fantastic!

KingAlphard

Italy1705 Posts

January 20 2015 21:55 GMT

#24

I already felt like Protoss was doing well in lategame versus Swarm host/Corruptor /Viper as long as the protoss player stayed on even or more bases.

If Swarm hosts are nerfed like that (in the ultra lategame, since you can't really harass at that stage) then it might really become impossible for zerg to win.

ivancype

Brazil485 Posts

January 20 2015 21:55 GMT

#25

All I see is Blizzard trying to change the focus from the matchfixing "scandal"

Waxangel

United States33074 Posts

January 20 2015 21:55 GMT

#26

Europe confirmed to have the middlest pro level of play

purakushi

United States3300 Posts

January 20 2015 21:56 GMT

#27

Pre-LotV SC2 may actually be salvageable. It is not even about balance at this point.

OsaX Nymloth

Poland3244 Posts

January 20 2015 21:57 GMT

#28

Where's widow mine nerf?!

Cricketer12

United States13959 Posts

January 20 2015 21:57 GMT

#29

so cool keep up the good work, also consider giving toss a midgame unit ling midgame viability and raven a buff(maybe to auto turrets or a new ability)

Faefae

2202 Posts

January 20 2015 21:58 GMT

#30

On January 21 2015 06:57 OsaX Nymloth wrote:
Where's widow mine nerf?!

:')

sM.Zik

Canada2543 Posts

January 20 2015 21:58 GMT

#31

What year is it? Interesting.

KingofdaHipHop

United States25602 Posts

January 20 2015 21:58 GMT

#32

wow damn, there's the giant balance change everybody was asking blizz to have the balls to do. I'm impressed, I'm really intrigued as to what the testing will find. Will definitely be interesting.

Charoisaur

Germany15866 Posts

January 20 2015 21:59 GMT

#33

On January 21 2015 06:55 KingAlphard wrote:
I already felt like Protoss was doing well in lategame versus Swarm host/Corruptor /Viper as long as the protoss player stayed on even or more bases.

If Swarm hosts are nerfed like that (in the ultra lategame, since you can't really harass at that stage) then it might really become impossible for zerg to win.

the problem was is not that swarmhosts are OP but that they are causing hour long games that nobody wants to play or watch.

duckk

United States622 Posts

January 20 2015 21:59 GMT

#34

All of the changes seem good, would still like to see either a hellbat/widowmine nerf or zerg 3-3 unlocked at infestation pit to match t/p upgrades.

Also zerg will not ever take a map off skytoss, but oh well better than having ravens be invincible as they are now.

Keeemy

Finland7855 Posts

January 20 2015 21:59 GMT

#35

What the fuuuuuuuck

Didn't expect huge changes like these

Skynx

Turkey7150 Posts

January 20 2015 21:59 GMT

#36

Wow that's quite a change, gj blizz stepping up

pmp10

3239 Posts

January 20 2015 22:00 GMT

#37

This is a insane change to be dropping on the players right now.
Maybe if they wait till WCS season ends.

pure.Wasted

Canada4701 Posts

January 20 2015 22:00 GMT

#38

Snute...

Stephano...

Scarlett!!!

Gullis

Sweden740 Posts

January 20 2015 22:01 GMT

#39

The swarm hosts will be such a weird unit:/ To strong when "active" and completely useless when on cd.
I like that are trying something though!

KingAlphard

Italy1705 Posts

January 20 2015 22:01 GMT

#40

On January 21 2015 06:59 Charoisaur wrote:

Show nested quote +

the problem was is not that swarmhosts are OP but that they are causing hour long games that nobody wants to play or watch.

And I agree. But they have to nerf protoss lategame too then, otherwise Zerg has no chance. Right now, Swarm host/corruptor/viper is the only composition that can compete with mass tempests/archons/hts.