it's not like they're adding this. this is a test to see if these are the appropriate steps into improving the metagame. It won't be a while until we actually see what changes will/won't be made, if any.

Jett.Jack.Alvir

Canada2250 Posts

January 20 2015 22:03 GMT

#44

Wow changing a mechanic is risky, and requires loads of internal testing.

I am impressed Blizzard realized there might be a problem with swarmhosts, but this reaction is quite drastic. I think simpler nerfs like movement speed or time to burrow could balance swarmhosts.

Sundrop

16 Posts

January 20 2015 22:03 GMT

#45

Can someone explain to me this change to SH. Is there any change to the strength of locusts or the number produced? I know they added the flying T3 upgrade, but besides that and the fact the locusts can be made while unburrowed, is there another change to the strength or costs of SH?

Faefae

2203 Posts

January 20 2015 22:03 GMT

#46

We only need new good maps and we're good to go!

Waxangel

United States33388 Posts

January 20 2015 22:04 GMT

#47

what's the locust spawn timer as of the last seen LotV build -_-?

Existor

Russian Federation4295 Posts

January 20 2015 22:04 GMT

#48

Banner for such great balance thread!

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Aeromi

France14460 Posts

January 20 2015 22:04 GMT

#49

On January 21 2015 07:04 Waxangel wrote:
what's the locust spawn timer as of the last seen LotV build -_-?

50 seconds IIRC

eviltomahawk

United States11135 Posts

January 20 2015 22:04 GMT

#50

The new Swarm Host will need a lot of balancing and numbers tweaking considering it's pretty much a new unit now. Ideally they shouldn't implement these changes until at least the end of the first season.

Aeromi

France14460 Posts

January 20 2015 22:05 GMT

#51

On January 21 2015 07:04 Aeromi wrote:

Show nested quote +

50 seconds IIRC

On January 21 2015 07:04 Existor wrote:
Banner for such great balance thread!

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Thanks !

Olli

Austria24417 Posts

January 20 2015 22:06 GMT

#52

Oh boy.

Time to bring back charge/storm/voidray PvZ

Now can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE start working on a way to bring back templar PvT?

Ctone23

United States1839 Posts

January 20 2015 22:08 GMT

#53

Having a hard time understanding what Z is supposed to do late game vs P.

EDIT: got my P's and Z's mixed up at first :D

ejozl

Denmark3383 Posts

January 20 2015 22:08 GMT

#54

Dno if because it works in the LotV build, it will work in HotS. But DAMN IT if it isn't worth the TRY!!!
Looking forward to this.

Liquid`Snute

Norway839 Posts

January 20 2015 22:09 GMT

#55

lol you guys, i adapt to what's strong, it's not coincidence that i play swarm host right now and if it doesn't work anymore i'll do something else. winning is winning and learning how to win is becoming less and less of a problem to me as time goes on

as for the patch itself i don't have too many thoughts of it besides RIP brood lord, most neglected Z unit in the game just became even more useless.

Existor

Russian Federation4295 Posts

January 20 2015 22:09 GMT

#56

On January 21 2015 07:03 Sundrop wrote:
Can someone explain to me this change to SH. Is there any change to the strength of locusts or the number produced? I know they added the flying T3 upgrade, but besides that and the fact the locusts can be made while unburrowed, is there another change to the strength or costs of SH?

LotV SH costs 100 minerals and 200 gas

SetGuitarsToKill

Canada28396 Posts

January 20 2015 22:10 GMT

#57

On January 21 2015 07:09 Liquid`Snute wrote:
lol you guys, i adapt to what's strong, it's not coincidence that i play swarm host right now and if it doesn't work anymore i'll do something else. winning is winning and learning how to win is becoming less and less of a problem to me as time goes on

as for the patch itself i don't have too many thoughts of it besides RIP brood lord, most neglected Z unit in the game just became even more useless.

If you need anyone to talk to I'm here for you. Don't do anything Rash, you here me?

Orcasgt24

Canada3238 Posts

January 20 2015 22:10 GMT

#58

Flying Locusts, even if they can't attack while in the air just seems WAY too strong. Part of how Terran and Protoss are able to deal with the Swarm Hosts is killing them from long range. How are they suppose to do that now?

polpot

3002 Posts

January 20 2015 22:11 GMT

#59

Im sad, swarmhost was one of my favorite units and one of the very few cost effective unit zerg has, they will probably become "useless" like the infestor, and zerg players will have to play whit garbage ground units until hive again!!

Pontius Pirate

United States1557 Posts

January 20 2015 22:11 GMT

#60

as for the patch itself i don't have too many thoughts of it besides RIP brood lord, most neglected Z unit in the game just became even more useless.

But if they nerf Tempest to compensate for the nerfs to the other two chief perpetrator turtle units, maybe that will help bring BLs back into the fold.