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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
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Mamba
Switzerland39 Posts
I watched it on my 10" Tablet and it was "ok" It didn't look great, but it wasn't horrible. On my 24" Monitor I have at home it was disgustingly bad quality. You couldn't even tell which races are playing... | ||
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Penev
28440 Posts
On January 11 2015 22:58 SixStrings wrote: Okay, I'm going to go the doctor's to check if I indeed have eyes. Hehe, nothing wrong with tour sense of humor though (and you're even German! :o) | ||
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
On January 11 2015 23:20 Penev wrote: Hehe, nothing wrong with tour sense of humor though (and you're even German! :o) Just parroting TB from a page previous. | ||
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Dingodile
4132 Posts
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AxiomBlurr
786 Posts
On January 11 2015 22:03 Penev wrote: He's overcomplicating things a bit, for instance, the bat file only needs to look like this: livestreamer twitch.tv/gsl low Vlc will play the stream already delayed and you can further adjust the audio in tools/ track synchronization/ audio track synchronization. Well, they are funding the price pool and this isn't exactly great publicity/ exposure for Blizz so who knows; Maybe they have something to say about this. They don't really need Gom anymore either with SpotTV coming in. nice thank you Penev!!~~  | ||
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johnbongham
451 Posts
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Defessus
United States164 Posts
On January 12 2015 00:40 johnbongham wrote: People in the community who insist on defending this make me want to quit playing/watching sc2 completely. Enjoy your favorite game's shrinking fanbase. I still think tasteless and artosis have to go before any of this can be fixed. They aren't doing anything for the game at this point. I have a feeling their salaries are one of the largest expenses that is forcing GOMTV to wish to aggressively monetize their english stream audience. | ||
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
On January 12 2015 00:55 Defessus wrote: I have a feeling their salaries are one of the largest expenses that is forcing GOMTV to wish to aggressively monetize their english stream audience. Well they better be. Tastosis are a large part of the reason we're even still talking about this game. They kept it interesting when the game was shit, they brought the game to tens of thousands of Western viewers and they've been loyal to the game for five years. Now that the game is at its dying breath, you can bet that they deserved being paid every penny GOM can spare. I'm really annoyed by people shitting all over Tasteless' face, to be honest. Just because he doesn't play Starcraft, doesn't mean he isn't a brilliant broadcaster and half of the best casting duo we have had in five years of SC2. | ||
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On January 12 2015 01:58 SixStrings wrote: Well they better be. Tastosis are a large part of the reason we're even still talking about this game. They kept it interesting when the game was shit, they brought the game to tens of thousands of Western viewers and they've been loyal to the game for five years. Now that the game is at its dying breath, you can bet that they deserved being paid every penny GOM can spare. I'm really annoyed by people shitting all over Tasteless' face, to be honest. Just because he doesn't play Starcraft, doesn't mean he isn't a brilliant broadcaster and half of the best casting duo we have had in five years of SC2. I agree. Tasteless is easily the most veteran and best caster in the scene. The fact that he sticks to casting Starcraft instead of moving to the more popular games such as League of Legends or Dota2 shows that he actually still cares about the game, I think. Back in the day he casted Brood War for a lot less viewers than he is getting now. How many sports commentators actively practice the sports they are casting? Relatively few, as far as I know. | ||
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
On January 12 2015 02:04 maartendq wrote: I agree. Tasteless is easily the most veteran and best caster in the scene. The fact that he sticks to casting Starcraft instead of moving to the more popular games such as League of Legends or Dota2 shows that he actually still cares about the game, I think. Back in the day he casted Brood War for a lot less viewers than he is getting now. How many sports commentators actively practice the sports they are casting? Relatively few, as far as I know. Yeah, most are ex-amateur at most, sometimes ex-players. In esports it's more or less expected that you play the game, so it's a bit different. | ||
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Rocket-Bear
3070 Posts
On January 12 2015 01:58 SixStrings wrote: Well they better be. Tastosis are a large part of the reason we're even still talking about this game. They kept it interesting when the game was shit, they brought the game to tens of thousands of Western viewers and they've been loyal to the game for five years. Now that the game is at its dying breath, you can bet that they deserved being paid every penny GOM can spare. I'm really annoyed by people shitting all over Tasteless' face, to be honest. Just because he doesn't play Starcraft, doesn't mean he isn't a brilliant broadcaster and half of the best casting duo we have had in five years of SC2. We're going to pay you x amount of salary until our company dies. over We're going have to change some things because our budget is not working atm. ? Solid business sense. Why don't you become a CEO? | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On January 12 2015 01:58 SixStrings wrote: Well they better be. Tastosis are a large part of the reason we're even still talking about this game. They kept it interesting when the game was shit, they brought the game to tens of thousands of Western viewers and they've been loyal to the game for five years. Now that the game is at its dying breath, you can bet that they deserved being paid every penny GOM can spare. I'm really annoyed by people shitting all over Tasteless' face, to be honest. Just because he doesn't play Starcraft, doesn't mean he isn't a brilliant broadcaster and half of the best casting duo we have had in five years of SC2. the following is assuming, hypothetically, that tastosis' labor costs are significantly high relative to the english GOMTV budget as the other poster said: the show has to go on at the end of the day. whether GOM finds newer cheaper casters, cuts labor costs / misc costs, or offer tastosis a lesser salary relative to their tenure the show comes first. unfortunately, the game is in the shit in terms of viewers and if its a choice between screwing the viewers and displeasing your employees, you have to make the right one. the most basic element for the starcraft show is players playing and viewers being able to follow the competition. i doubt its tastosis or their contracts fault for this (hypothetical remember?), but regardless theyre fucking with their audience hard here and thats not ok for them or us. theyre making potential customers flee, and hurting their brands reputation. if its tastosis then fuck them let em loose, viewers players have to come first or there won't be a GSL in the future. note im pretty sure tastosis are valuable to keep around and appeased if theyre able to successfully cast other popular games GOM broadcasts (but personally i think they would suck at it) | ||
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johnbongham
451 Posts
Seriously, there a lot more passionate casters out there and tastosis of today is nothing like what they were in 2012. Tasteless is obviously preparing for life after sc2 casting in Korea and Artosis is more into a card game right now. If their salaries are in any way contributing to this ridiculous paywall then they need to be cut IMO. | ||
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AxiomBlurr
786 Posts
TB has been super vocal and critical of this move by GSL - the Axiom LotV competition maxed over 20,000 viewers mid game 2 - that is a large audience that heard his opinions... Please TL people share your thoughts... | ||
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rgbAndraxxus
32 Posts
On January 12 2015 05:09 AxiomBlurr wrote: BUMP!!! Was really hoping to have some TL staff weigh in their opinions on this... TB has been super vocal and critical of this move by GSL - the Axiom LotV competition maxed over 20,000 viewers mid game 2 - that is a large audience that heard his opinions... Please TL people share your thoughts... For me it showed it got close to 31.000 viewers during some of the games, 30.7xx to be a bit more accurate was the highest I saw it get to. Plus the quality was great, GOM should really, really go with a 720p free stream and a 1080p paid stream with more benefits that the paying customers can enjoy, but at the same time something that shouldn't cost GOM too much. Maybe like in the old days questions for the players/casters/GOM team in general, from the subscribers or something to get everyone excited, I really liked the Baneling show. ^_^ | ||
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sagi
Finland346 Posts
I've succesfully introduced friends to SC by simply watching games with them when they are visiting, advertising tournament streams online and making "best games" vod lists. One of them complained about the stream quality in the gomtv.net era and he opted for other content then. Luckily there has been lots of good quality free tournaments to compensate so I could spread the joy that is StarCraft. I doubt any of them would've even considered watching the game if all the streams were like the current GSL travesty. As this seems to be a no brainer, I have to assume they have given up on the game already. Meaning they don't except any more viewers and are just trying to squeeze money from their current viewer base. And that's just sad... | ||
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alphaboss
United States11 Posts
Low quality is unbearable and incredibly frustrating to watch. It literally causes a headache! :'[ | ||
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anessie
180 Posts
On January 12 2015 05:44 sagi wrote: The biggest issue in my opinion is the new viewer aspect. Nobody is going to watch that blurry mess unless they're deeply interested in the game already; nobody is going to pay $14 for a league stream they aren't already familiar with. I've succesfully introduced friends to SC by simply watching games with them when they are visiting, advertising tournament streams online and making "best games" vod lists. One of them complained about the stream quality in the gomtv.net era and he opted for other content then... Well I'm actually happy tasteless isn't like explaining shit about "see guys & girls they control units and have bases and they build armies and they need economy". Cause in more open events casters have done stuff like that, the complete basics is not what I want to hear after watching years of esports games. It's better to discover sc2 by watching youtube content. Screw that introduction to the game crap, it's the GSL, it's where you come when all that other free stuff isn't enough! Remember you decide yourself to watch it HQ or LQ or ..not at all. It's clear gomexp only looks at the Asian/S-Korean market for the new viewer aspect while milking the rest of the world for some cash to keep a dying expansion on air. I'm sure they will launch some free to watch (beta) Legacy of the Void startup tournament at some point. | ||
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Rocket-Bear
3070 Posts
Proleague has quite a lot of live audience tbh. I am also liking their matches because it is at most 5 games so it isn't massively time consuming either. So I am either going to watch SPL SSL in good quality or GSL in low? Wonder what I will pick. | ||
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