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xTJx
Brazil419 Posts
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
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alphaboss
United States11 Posts
#0fuck0buck for you GSL People were spamming “༼ ᕤºل͟º ༽ᕤ MEDIUM OR RIOT ༼ ᕤºل͟º ༽ᕤ” in chat so they put it in subscriber only mode then the gsl channel typed “totally owned” in chat. This is very unprofessional of them. | ||
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DevotioN_00
United States27 Posts
On January 10 2015 20:40 Haruhi wrote: If Tasteless and Artosis hadn't Lost all their passion, they would keep developing, their casting is Top notch, but they need to become more, they need to learn How to handle the businessside of things. With the tons of memes they create on a daily basis they could be a twitch-goldmine. Instead of filling up time with random chatter they could interact with the twitch chat - by reading out donation message of 2 dollars and above like Forsen does.  If they don't step the fuck up, I think they won't have a secure job for much longer, Which would really suck  .It's a tournament, not their personal stream. It also is not their job to handle the business side of things. They are casters, hired to cast games. I also wouldn't call "reading out donation message of 2 dollars" and reading twitch chat the business side of things. This is an issue with GOM; Artosis and Tasteless have nothing to do with it. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On January 11 2015 00:51 neptunusfisk wrote: I actually enjoy both the S2SL and SSL more than GSL recently. Spotv has cleaner layouts, smoother streams, better casters, free vods etc and Sonic/the staff on OGN is/are driven by pure passion it seems... If only + Show Spoiler + innovation and soulkey better casters, friggin' lol | ||
digmouse
China6329 Posts
On January 11 2015 07:18 alphaboss wrote: BUMP! Really hope something is done about this. I have been an avid gsl fan for a couple years. I cannot afford the price to sub. I will have to stop watching, as I cannot support GSL after seeing how unfair and greedy they have become. There is no way to successfully argue/rationalize this decision. #0fuck0buck for you GSL People were spamming “༼ ᕤºل͟º ༽ᕤ MEDIUM OR RIOT ༼ ᕤºل͟º ༽ᕤ” in chat so they put it in subscriber only mode then the gsl channel typed “totally owned” in chat. This is very unprofessional of them. That's way out of the line. On January 11 2015 01:24 goiflin wrote: Not going to get out any sort of pitchfork and rage at them for this, because I get that a business is a business and I'll be watching it either way (even though I don't have the money to sub for HQ at the moment), but is this really a good decision? Almost every other esport, and pretty much every tournament in SC2 has free HQ for the most part. There's a couple of exceptions, but their lowest quality is medium, which is still much better than low. Is this going to actually make gom more money? Or is it just going to turn people off the product? The current esports business model revolves around attracting as many viewers as possible and giving them incentives to pay for things sometimes are actually not the stream/video content itself, Valve's Dota 2 is currently the pinnacle of this model. In the streaming business this reflects as subscriber benefits and donations, which also relies on massive numbers of viewer base to begin with, see what GOM is doing? They are doing exactly the opposite by giving its viewers unpleasant experience, and charge for what is widely considered as baseline free service, it doesn't help either that its competitions offer better service and similarily good content for way less or even free as well. | ||
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Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
Gom must have serious problems, the last stream there had maybe a ration of 1 green thumbs to 3 red thumbs. On Kr_Stream. Normally on Youtube you have 90 green to 10 red or better. | ||
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iMrising
United States1099 Posts
On January 11 2015 07:18 alphaboss wrote: BUMP! Really hope something is done about this. I have been an avid gsl fan for a couple years. I cannot afford the price to sub. I will have to stop watching, as I cannot support GSL after seeing how unfair and greedy they have become. There is no way to successfully argue/rationalize this decision. #0fuck0buck for you GSL People were spamming “༼ ᕤºل͟º ༽ᕤ MEDIUM OR RIOT ༼ ᕤºل͟º ༽ᕤ” in chat so they put it in subscriber only mode then the gsl channel typed “totally owned” in chat. This is very unprofessional of them. I was actually neutral with the gsl doing something like this, but this is really really unprofessional. Now I'm extremely disappointed with how gsl is doing things. | ||
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johnbongham
451 Posts
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AxiomBlurr
786 Posts
I support SC2 by playing it..advertising it on other forums and games...I sub when I choose to and not when a company tries to cannive me into it. Hell I even try and get all my friends into sc2...GSL aint getting any recommendations until this is changed. | ||
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AxiomBlurr
786 Posts
On January 11 2015 11:19 johnbongham wrote: GOM would be better off dumping tastosis and letting more involved community broadcasters stream/cast the matches such as basetrade or even khaldor from his apartment. The fact that nobody in the community with clout besides TB is speaking up is atrocious. Sad state this game is in right now. Ya thank goodness TB is making some noise about this. Have not heard squat from any other casters...Some Team Liquid people have been vocal though..Which is GREAT!~~ | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On January 11 2015 01:17 xTJx wrote: Looks like Gom took the same aproach Blizzard does to promote SC2, and it is to not care about us at all. Bit drunk so I'm going to be blunt, I respect your opinion. This is the same exact thing GOM did pre-WCS. WCS spoiled us but also hurt GOM's income. You still get to watch GOM, and it really is not that bad quality. Worst thing is sometimes you squint to see supply numbers. I think people are heavily overreacting to a business that clearly cares for SC2 esports in regards to a business decision by them. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On January 11 2015 12:01 Pandain wrote: Bit drunk so I'm going to be blunt, I respect your opinion. This is the same exact thing GOM did pre-WCS. WCS spoiled us but also hurt GOM's income. You still get to watch GOM, and it really is not that bad quality. Worst thing is sometimes you squint to see supply numbers. I think people are heavily overreacting to a business that clearly cares for SC2 esports in regards to a business decision by them. Honestly, the biggest problem of that decision of that it puts a barrier to entry to the best SC2 play for people that are not sc2 fans to begin with. If someone come and ask where can he watch the best starcraft, and you telel him it's this shitty blurry stream unless he pays 15 bucks, when all the others games provide free HD, they're not going to hesitate long what to watch and support ... | ||
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negativedge
4279 Posts
On January 11 2015 12:01 Pandain wrote: This is the same exact thing GOM did pre-WCS. WCS spoiled us but also hurt GOM's income. except pre WCS GOM had their own site and their own servers that they controlled and paid for, and they had a functioning VOD system. now they don't have those things. and even if they had everything they had in 2011, esports has changed. there's a lot more SC2 content, and there are other games. and every official sanctioned event is competing with high profile streamers for every game on top of that. why am I going to sit and watch shit quality GSL, or pay 15 bucks a month for ok quality GSL, when I can click a button and watch something else with all the amenities for free? | ||
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AxiomBlurr
786 Posts
If someone come and ask where can he watch the best starcraft, and you telel him it's this shitty blurry stream unless he pays 15 bucks, when all the others games provide free HD, they're not going to hesitate long what to watch and support ... THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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alphaboss
United States11 Posts
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cheekymonkey
France1387 Posts
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viforce
9 Posts
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Estancia
Korea (South)335 Posts
On January 11 2015 14:26 viforce wrote: Watch the Korean Youtube stream muted and play the twitch stream in the background. Youtube stream is usually behind by about 10 seconds compared to twitch. Happens for proleague and S2SL too. | ||
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alphaboss
United States11 Posts
On January 11 2015 14:26 viforce wrote: Watch the Korean Youtube stream muted and play the twitch stream in the background. I was, until I got a region block error. I tried several extensions, south korean VPN's, livestreamer/etc. Meanwhile, koreans don't have any paywalls. | ||
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