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BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 08:33:08
January 10 2015 08:31 GMT
#321
I'll resume paying GOM when they restore a reasonable VOD service. Moving to twitch is no excuse for the 0 effort management. But then everything else they do these days is 0 effort.
NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
January 10 2015 08:46 GMT
#322
Those WCS Global Events requirements are for partner tournaments.

WCS,GSL and SSL are not partner tournaments.
Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
January 10 2015 08:57 GMT
#323
RIP GSL
Freelancer veteran
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 09:46:09
January 10 2015 09:33 GMT
#324
Ive alwayd loved GSL but this is too greedy. Its a shame really because its been hands down the best tournament weve had, no competition.

additionally theres no way in hell they will attract new viewers with the low only option.
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
January 10 2015 09:46 GMT
#325
This is what happens when you whiners complain about downloading a streaming client... it takes away GOM's freedom and forces everyone to rely on twitch's service; giving them absolutely dominance over the way everything functions.
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fenix404
Profile Joined May 2011
United States305 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 09:52:17
January 10 2015 09:51 GMT
#326
so, i had proleague charge me for my sub, and i haven't been given any of the sub features. i messaged them twice and now have opened a paypal dispute.

i normally pay GSL for a whole year, but now they don't even offer it. i bought my sub though, because the low quality only is ridiculous. kids out of their parents houses are pushin 1080p 60fps without a hitch...

this makes me extremely disappointed with the state of starcraft right now. both have literally NO VOD organization. both of them have NO SUPPORT if you have an issue with a payment or anything else like regular feedback.

THESE ARE THE TWO GREATEST STARCRAFT ORGANIZATIONS...

so, how does http://www.gomexp.com/en/index.gom exist, but we can't have anything at all like the old gomtv.net... this just all makes no sense and is very frustrating... i only want to give them my money and watch the best starcraft in the world.
"think for yourself, question authority"
HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
January 10 2015 11:40 GMT
#327
On January 10 2015 18:46 Advantageous wrote:
This is what happens when you whiners complain about downloading a streaming client... it takes away GOM's freedom and forces everyone to rely on twitch's service; giving them absolutely dominance over the way everything functions.


No, this is what happens when old businessmen don't understand the media they are dealing with.

I think it is all Tasteless and Artosis fault, now hear me out first:
You are right that GSL never wanted to use twitch,
the infrastructure does not cost them anything, but they don't understand how twitch works.
They still want to controll everything.
What they need are people like Forsen or CohCarrnage, though they don't care about sc2 or need a job,
but they get how to make money on twitch.
Maybe livibee and Winter, though they are way inferior casters to Tastosis,
could stand up to the executives and tell them what needs to be done.
This missuse of twitch is throwing away growth, player exposure, reputation and in the end,
lots of money.

If Tasteless and Artosis hadn't lost all their passion,
they would keep developing, their casting is top notch,
but they need to become more, they need to learn how to handle the businessside of things.
With the tons of memes they create on a daily basis they could be a twitch-goldmine.
Instead of filling up time with random chatter they could interact with the twitch chat -
by reading out donation message of 2 dollars and above like forsen does.
If they don't step the fuck up, I think they won't have a secure job for much longer, which would really suck .
Szgk
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland112 Posts
January 10 2015 12:00 GMT
#328
On January 10 2015 17:31 BathTubNZ wrote:
I'll resume paying GOM when they restore a reasonable VOD service. Moving to twitch is no excuse for the 0 effort management. But then everything else they do these days is 0 effort.

You should check out the Small SC2 VoD Thread
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
January 10 2015 12:25 GMT
#329
didnt gom said in 2010 that they needed "foreigner money" to pay artosis&tasteless? Maybe they need it again.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
January 10 2015 12:58 GMT
#330
On January 10 2015 21:25 Dingodile wrote:
didnt gom said in 2010 that they needed "foreigner money" to pay artosis&tasteless? Maybe they need it again.

Sounds legit. Those 2 making the big money these days and all.
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
kaby
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation195 Posts
January 10 2015 13:08 GMT
#331
a 9.99$ per mounth bundle for all korean leagues at once would be cool.
+ Show Spoiler +
ppl have nothing to do with that but 13$ getting huge lately in russia
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1962 Posts
January 10 2015 13:29 GMT
#332
Tbh I'm very disappointed to see GOM doing this, I've bought several seasonal tickets throughout SC2's history to support them, but if this isn't reverted, I won't watch GSL anymore.

It's 2015, after all, I think you can expect a little more than that (given the fact GOM quality has always been kinda off/behind)!
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
meshfusion
Profile Joined June 2014
Russian Federation232 Posts
January 10 2015 13:47 GMT
#333
i have been disappointed by GOM for a while now, feels like a decline just going down hill
first the new site is much worse than the previous one
then they completely mess up the VOD system which was awesome before
they cant even take proper care of the VODS on twitch- just look at it. To watch for instance group B from the GSL there's like 6 different videos, all cut at different times. there's a 2 min video with just waiting screen, there's one vod of 3 hours that just cuts randomly in- then there's 3 more VODS that just cut as the games are going. even personal streamers on twitch have much more organized VOD system, it's a terrible mess and painful to browse through

and now.. the last drop- the live quality for non subs it's 360p.. at the very best. felt like watching 240p.. a step backwards - look at the other esports all offering great quality for free. between the fact that the viewership numbers of GSL are already patheticly low and this terrible set up i can only foresee them going even lower. i know i won't be watching anymore GSL for a while, probably just catch up proleague when it's on and that's about it
Epamynondas
Profile Joined September 2012
387 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 14:01:25
January 10 2015 14:00 GMT
#334
On January 10 2015 18:46 Advantageous wrote:
This is what happens when you whiners complain about downloading a streaming client... it takes away GOM's freedom and forces everyone to rely on twitch's service; giving them absolutely dominance over the way everything functions.

Imagine if this website had GOM.tv/vods/ as its url. This is what we'd like.

Meanwhile clash.gg is pretty alright :D
bypLy
Profile Joined June 2013
757 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 14:32:04
January 10 2015 14:31 GMT
#335
gom is a miserable fail. i supported them as well and bought some tickets. but stopped last year when they changed all that shit.
RevolutionX
Profile Joined June 2014
Netherlands18 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 14:41:15
January 10 2015 14:41 GMT
#336
the only thing you/we really can do is don't subscribe and pay. they will evaluate foreigner income and when its decreasing they will understand...

you can say anything u want about this but a real signal is not to pay gom anymore.
90ti
Profile Joined August 2010
United States100 Posts
January 10 2015 14:56 GMT
#337
On January 10 2015 16:28 F0rlorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 16:11 Antisocialmunky wrote:
I don't know to how comprehend the irony that you can watch Brood War free at higher quality that this... What even.


http://i.imgur.com/mgiBrXc.jpg


Still relevant today


if this is true that is just pathetic and shameful by gom
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
January 10 2015 15:26 GMT
#338
About the Low stream, it would be okay if you would be able to follow the game, but Zerg creep on high graphics doesn't work for a 240p stream, so it feels like putting stuff behind a paywall and not only switch to a lower quality.
Since I assume people test out how changes will look like beforehand, I guess they were aware about this animated ground > 240p problem and did it on purpose.

And I miss the Gom player too. I wonder if people thought it would end up like this when they were complaining about it. And that Korea is starting to only focus on Korea is not something that happened overnight.
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 15:51:55
January 10 2015 15:51 GMT
#339
I actually enjoy both the S2SL and SSL more than GSL recently. Spotv has cleaner layouts, smoother streams, better casters, free vods etc and Sonic/the staff on OGN is/are driven by pure passion it seems... If only + Show Spoiler +
innovation and soulkey
had advanced in S2SL instead of the GSL...
maru G5L pls
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 16:09:01
January 10 2015 16:08 GMT
#340
On January 10 2015 21:25 Dingodile wrote:
didnt gom said in 2010 that they needed "foreigner money" to pay artosis&tasteless? Maybe they need it again.

Well I have another solution to that problem...
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