EPTBBC: Should eSports be Olympic events? - Page 3
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StarStruck
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
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FaCE_1
Canada6163 Posts
On December 26 2014 01:06 StarStruck wrote: We've had this debate many times over the years and I still stick to my answer. Definitely not. same comment. I really don't want to see this happening | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On December 26 2014 02:04 Gamegene wrote: i don't think anyone has argued that it wouldn't be helpful to esports lol I didn't say I want it to be helpful to esports. I just said that we shouldn't look at people who will be against putting e-sports into Olympics. I mean it will happen sooner or later, the only question is if they will do something parallel to Olympics or not. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8001 Posts
On December 26 2014 01:51 Nerchio wrote: You guys are talking about negative opinion from random people around the world, the truth is that if (SC2 for example) got 100 new fans and 1000 haters, it's worth it every time. Any publicity is good publicity! | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
apparently not the right impression | ||
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
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rotta
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
edit: for clarity, this was several years ago. | ||
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Deleted User 26513
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On December 25 2014 20:50 FanaticCZ wrote: Absolutely not. Olympics are about physical abilities so skinny nerds playing computer games dont really fit.  A skinny nerd doesn't fit... But a 50yo fat guy with an air pistol fits. I see. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On December 26 2014 03:56 Pr0wler wrote: A skinny nerd doesn't fit... But a 50yo fat guy with an air pistol fits. I see. If SC and other games were about how precisely you control a mouse and keyboard or how fast you can do it then maybe we could slide into the olympics. DDR + Osu please. | ||
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madman1897
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Obviously, chances are slim anyways, to see e-sports being included to the olympics. Would be awkward as well tbh. | ||
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jubil
United States2602 Posts
But even beyond that, the competition is too volatile; the "rules of the game" can be drastically changed. Other sports do have similar examples (In foil fencing, the time it takes for a hit to register was increased in 2005, eliminating most "flicking". As a side note, if you thought swarm host mirrors are boring enough to require rule changes...), but nothing like introducing entirely new units, weapons, heroes, or maps. Besides rule changes, the other problem is in athlete turnover. Take the example of SC2 as a relatively long-lived eSport that might fit in the Olympics; if you had one "Olympic-eSports" event in 2010 and another one in 2014, the list of top competitors you might expect to see would have completely turned over multiple times. And then in 2018 SC2 might not even be popular enough to feature anymore. In traditional sports you expect to see familiar faces year after year, people that try to defend their title or overtake a rival over multiple seasons. In eSports players and teams not infrequently go from champions to forgotten over a single year. Also, eSports are fundamentally commercial products, which in my opinion is highly problematic for neutral international competition. No-one "owns" the rights and profits of basketball or the 100m sprint the way Riot owns the rights to LoL or Valve does in Dota2 and CS:GO. That eSports are sedentary doesn't matter. I'd support Chess as an Olympic sport over any eSport (long history, few rule changes, stable professional scene, open copyright, deeply strategic, etc.) | ||
Rocket-Bear
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Deleted User 26513
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On December 26 2014 04:02 Gamegene wrote: If SC and other games were about how precisely you control a mouse and keyboard or how fast you can do it then maybe we could slide into the olympics. DDR + Osu please. I don't think that eSports should be at the olympics, because of 10 million reason... I just dont like these "skinny nerd" comments. The olympic games are not exclusively for ripped swimers and runners. btw. Judo and Taekwondo are olympic sports and Karate is not... Fix that first, then think about esports !!! | ||
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FanaticCZ
Czech Republic287 Posts
On December 26 2014 00:57 Terah wrote: Sure the Beer-Belly Air-Pistol and Skeet shooters are the best Athletes in their Sport. But Code S level players keeping up their highest level of focus with an average of 300 APM matching up in BO-x Series which can last up to several hours are just skinny nerds. Or take a look at riding; the only reason why this is still in the olympics is because it was there even in the ancient olympic games - not because it is so demanding for the rider to jump over several obstacles. Sure u can start to cherrypick but u definitely get my point. PC gaming (e-sports) has nothing to do with Olympics. Obviously there are silly disciplines there, but they are still a lot closer to a sport than Starcraft OR they have a long history to justify being there (e.g. shooting, horse riding). | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On December 26 2014 04:41 Pr0wler wrote: btw. Judo and Taekwondo are olympic sports and Karate is not... Fix that first, then think about esports !!! why would the esports community fix that before thinking about esports? | ||
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greenelve
Germany1392 Posts
Some years ago there was World Cyber Games, kinda the esport version of Olympic Games. But as buisseness goes, and esport is all about buisseness, it made no profit and due to bad decisions to make profit, it lost everything that made it so special in the first place. What esport needs is an association, something that is not a company from a game. Esport right now is more about promoting a game to make money than doing actuall sport. Atleast from the point of view of their companies. Take LoL and Riot or Dota2 and Valve or SC2 and Blizzard. | ||
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