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BBC: Should eSports be Olympic events?

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SantosPhillipCarlo
Profile Joined September 2013
United States351 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-25 05:05:28
December 25 2014 05:03 GMT
#1
Here's the article in question: Video games should be in Olympics, says Warcraft maker

It cites Rob Pardo's declaration that E-sports should be at the Olympics. If you like the idea, what would you like to see in terms of StarCraft?

    *How many foreigners? / How many per country allowed?
    *Team or individual format...or both?


Poll: Would you like to see StarCraft as an Olympic event?

★★★★★ - Absolutely! (188)
 
34%

★★★★ - Sounds cool! (3)
 
1%

★★★ - Could work (19)
 
3%

★★ - Maybe not (20)
 
4%

★ - Not a good idea (323)
 
58%

553 total votes

Your vote: Would you like to see StarCraft as an Olympic event?

(Vote): ★★★★★ - Absolutely!
(Vote): ★★★★ - Sounds cool!
(Vote): ★★★ - Could work
(Vote): ★★ - Maybe not
(Vote): ★ - Not a good idea


Poll: Would you want to see team play, individual or both?

Individual (166)
 
54%

Team (18)
 
6%

Both (123)
 
40%

307 total votes

Your vote: Would you want to see team play, individual or both?

(Vote): Individual
(Vote): Team
(Vote): Both



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neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
December 25 2014 05:13 GMT
#2
Well, putting aside whether or not it should be at the olympics, if it did get in, there would be an absolute outrage from more traditionally physical sports who don't get in. It would be a media shitstorm and bad publicity for the medium in general.
SantosPhillipCarlo
Profile Joined September 2013
United States351 Posts
December 25 2014 05:14 GMT
#3
On December 25 2014 14:13 neobowman wrote:
Well, putting aside whether or not it should be at the olympics, if it did get in, there would be an absolute outrage from more traditionally physical sports who don't get in. It would be a media shitstorm and bad publicity for the medium in general.


That's just what I'm afraid of, frankly.
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Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
December 25 2014 05:22 GMT
#4
Media (and apparently Rob Pardo) needs to stop thinking of eSports as something that needs to be "incorporated" into physical sports to legitimate itself. A separate eSports Olympics sounds much more interesting and would be far less poorly received. Adding eSports to the actual Olympics is just silly. You might as well ask whether there should be a Madden competition added to the Super Bowl. The two are just different things.
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
December 25 2014 05:31 GMT
#5
On December 25 2014 14:22 Yakikorosu wrote:
Media (and apparently Rob Pardo) needs to stop thinking of eSports as something that needs to be "incorporated" into physical sports to legitimate itself. A separate eSports Olympics sounds much more interesting and would be far less poorly received. Adding eSports to the actual Olympics is just silly. You might as well ask whether there should be a Madden competition added to the Super Bowl. The two are just different things.


Love the comparison to Madden. Why not Frogger or Donkey Kong?

eSports is a long way off from being seen as a serious competition in the eyes of the public - and many of their complaints would be legitimate and damning - but to outright suggest that eSports will never have a place at the Olympics? Chess is considered a sport, and SC is far, far more physical an activity than chess. Shooting is an Olympic sport. The lines of distinction here are not unambiguous.

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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 25 2014 05:39 GMT
#6
On December 25 2014 14:31 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2014 14:22 Yakikorosu wrote:
Media (and apparently Rob Pardo) needs to stop thinking of eSports as something that needs to be "incorporated" into physical sports to legitimate itself. A separate eSports Olympics sounds much more interesting and would be far less poorly received. Adding eSports to the actual Olympics is just silly. You might as well ask whether there should be a Madden competition added to the Super Bowl. The two are just different things.


Love the comparison to Madden. Why not Frogger or Donkey Kong?

eSports is a long way off from being seen as a serious competition in the eyes of the public - and many of their complaints would be legitimate and damning - but to outright suggest that eSports will never have a place at the Olympics? Chess is considered a sport, and SC is far, far more physical an activity than chess. Shooting is an Olympic sport. The lines of distinction here are not unambiguous.



Chess has a separate olympics, as it should.
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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
December 25 2014 06:01 GMT
#7
Not into the actual Olympics...there should be an e-sport Olympics to heighten awareness between games and give a sense of solidarity to the e-sport genre in general. But definitely not into the physical Olympics as is current.
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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
December 25 2014 06:02 GMT
#8
On December 25 2014 14:39 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2014 14:31 pure.Wasted wrote:
On December 25 2014 14:22 Yakikorosu wrote:
Media (and apparently Rob Pardo) needs to stop thinking of eSports as something that needs to be "incorporated" into physical sports to legitimate itself. A separate eSports Olympics sounds much more interesting and would be far less poorly received. Adding eSports to the actual Olympics is just silly. You might as well ask whether there should be a Madden competition added to the Super Bowl. The two are just different things.


Love the comparison to Madden. Why not Frogger or Donkey Kong?

eSports is a long way off from being seen as a serious competition in the eyes of the public - and many of their complaints would be legitimate and damning - but to outright suggest that eSports will never have a place at the Olympics? Chess is considered a sport, and SC is far, far more physical an activity than chess. Shooting is an Olympic sport. The lines of distinction here are not unambiguous.



Chess has a separate olympics, as it should.

Shooting, and the use of tools in sports is not the same as E-Sports. E-Sports makes use of an engine outside of the real world engine to make the game work. That's like arguing that a sport like Hockey isn't as much of sport because a player uses a stick or skates. There is very little that is unambiguous here. If a sport makes use of an engine that isn't based on nature then it isn't going to be olympic.
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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
December 25 2014 06:25 GMT
#9
On December 25 2014 15:02 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2014 14:39 GolemMadness wrote:
On December 25 2014 14:31 pure.Wasted wrote:
On December 25 2014 14:22 Yakikorosu wrote:
Media (and apparently Rob Pardo) needs to stop thinking of eSports as something that needs to be "incorporated" into physical sports to legitimate itself. A separate eSports Olympics sounds much more interesting and would be far less poorly received. Adding eSports to the actual Olympics is just silly. You might as well ask whether there should be a Madden competition added to the Super Bowl. The two are just different things.


Love the comparison to Madden. Why not Frogger or Donkey Kong?

eSports is a long way off from being seen as a serious competition in the eyes of the public - and many of their complaints would be legitimate and damning - but to outright suggest that eSports will never have a place at the Olympics? Chess is considered a sport, and SC is far, far more physical an activity than chess. Shooting is an Olympic sport. The lines of distinction here are not unambiguous.



Chess has a separate olympics, as it should.

E-Sports makes use of an engine outside of the real world engine to make the game work.


What a funny thing to say with such confidence. What, pray tell, does "outside of the real world engine" mean?
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playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
December 25 2014 06:40 GMT
#10
Starcraft an Olympic sport? What would Blizzard do if *gasp* an American represented the US? Blizzard isn't ready for this. They would probably reprimand the Olympics and give them a lecture about how enthralled the world is with third-10th tier Koreans, and how they should represent every nation, else what's the point?
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
December 25 2014 07:03 GMT
#11
I'm gonna say no cause e-sports have no staying power. How long is CSGO, DOTA2, StarCraft etc going to remain popular? 5 years? 10 years max? We're talking about an event that takes place every 4 years. Only Brood War has stood the test of time, but even its 16 year span is like a blip compared to the majority of sports at the Olympics, and it's mostly played by Koreans so it wouldn't be a good Olympic sport nor is it the most popular e-sport anymore.

This is the fundamental problem with e-sports at the Olympics: graphics get old, people get bored, new games come out and popularity wanes. Public perception can change in the future but this problem will stay with us.
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
December 25 2014 07:04 GMT
#12
i don't recall any olympic sports that feature everyone sitting in chairs lol

honestly i think i'd rather just have a WCG that's 1000x better. there's already a lot of preparation that's required for the olympics i'd rather not have internet, pc and tournament preparation added on top of what they already do.
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TargA
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway204 Posts
December 25 2014 07:11 GMT
#13
On December 25 2014 16:04 Gamegene wrote:
i don't recall any olympic sports that feature everyone sitting in chairs lol

honestly i think i'd rather just have a WCG that's 1000x better. there's already a lot of preparation that's required for the olympics i'd rather not have internet, pc and tournament preparation added on top of what they already do.


Plenty of chairs in paralympics, lets go for paralympics guys.
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wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-25 07:30:59
December 25 2014 07:30 GMT
#14
First we need to petition for Chess to be in the Olympics, then we can talk about eSports.

On December 25 2014 16:04 Gamegene wrote:
i don't recall any olympic sports that feature everyone sitting in chairs lol

honestly i think i'd rather just have a WCG that's 1000x better. there's already a lot of preparation that's required for the olympics i'd rather not have internet, pc and tournament preparation added on top of what they already do.


I think there was one archer in the Olympics that had to sit down to shoot. Not sure if she was in the para-olympics though.
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TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
December 25 2014 07:47 GMT
#15
On December 25 2014 16:11 TargA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2014 16:04 Gamegene wrote:
i don't recall any olympic sports that feature everyone sitting in chairs lol

honestly i think i'd rather just have a WCG that's 1000x better. there's already a lot of preparation that's required for the olympics i'd rather not have internet, pc and tournament preparation added on top of what they already do.


Plenty of chairs in paralympics, lets go for paralympics guys.

SC2 in paralympics, the dream.
Lazare1969
Profile Joined September 2014
United States318 Posts
December 25 2014 08:19 GMT
#16
This is one of those ideas that sounds cool at first, and then after a couple seconds of thinking you realize that it's incredibly stupid.

StarCraft is a proprietary product by Blizzard. Think about the legal and financial mess of license agreements this would entail. Blizzard does not deserve excess money thrown at them.

If StarCraft was open-source and released under a strict copyleft license, then maybe it would be a plausible idea. Like that's ever going to happen.
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
December 25 2014 08:20 GMT
#17
On December 25 2014 16:47 TAMinator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2014 16:11 TargA wrote:
On December 25 2014 16:04 Gamegene wrote:
i don't recall any olympic sports that feature everyone sitting in chairs lol

honestly i think i'd rather just have a WCG that's 1000x better. there's already a lot of preparation that's required for the olympics i'd rather not have internet, pc and tournament preparation added on top of what they already do.


Plenty of chairs in paralympics, lets go for paralympics guys.

SC2 in paralympics, the dream.

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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
December 25 2014 08:23 GMT
#18
Absolutely not.
I would not want to see IOC getting their hands involved.
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
December 25 2014 09:52 GMT
#19
On December 25 2014 17:23 Piste wrote:
Absolutely not.
I would not want to see IOC getting their hands involved.

We could add the IOC to the evil StarCraft organisations rating thread
rly ?
FanaticCZ
Profile Joined December 2011
Czech Republic287 Posts
December 25 2014 11:50 GMT
#20
Absolutely not. Olympics are about physical abilities so skinny nerds playing computer games dont really fit.
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