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Despite so many buffs for terran mech for LotV, somehow I get the feeling that all we will ever see in LotV is terran pros going bio again.
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On November 09 2014 04:07 Tresher wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2014 04:04 Hider wrote:Im talking about a mobile GROUND Anti-Air Unit. also Vikings dont shoot fast. Redesign the Thor so it's actually fun to use like the Goliath is. Having too many AA units in the game will just create an overlap effect. This. Thats also a good way. But instead of making it smaller, faster, less costs, and less supply they want to make it self repair, which is just promoting cheese strats again and not the problem of the Thor.
I also don't really see the fun part about repair, and definitely it looks like something will make thor cheese so much better. Just allow the Thor be microed in some sort of way. Tbh, it's not super important if its 2,4 or 6 supply, but find a way to make a good player showcase his skills when he uses the Thor. You don't do that by just adding in various "gimmicks" to the unit.
Despite so many buffs for terran mech for LotV, somehow I get the feeling that all we will ever see in LotV is terran pros going bio again.
If this economy stays, (macro-based) mech-play is definitely not viable.
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On November 09 2014 04:11 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2014 04:07 Foxxan wrote:On November 09 2014 04:07 Doublemint wrote:On November 09 2014 04:00 Tresher wrote:On November 09 2014 03:27 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 09 2014 03:26 Tresher wrote:On November 09 2014 03:07 HEADD wrote:
Not having played with it but judging it early. Great idea. It looks stupid after watching the final showmatch but Blizzard better not make the same mistake they did with the Warhound: removing it instead of redesigning or balancing it. Just make it a generic vehicle that shoots air without lock on. Just make it a reliable Mech anti-air cause thats what Terran lacks with Mech. An Anti- Air Unit that shoots fast and is mobile. Hell even if they remove it bring back the Warhound that shoots Air without that Anti Mechanical crap. You know that viking is an anti air unit ? Im talking about a mobile GROUND Anti-Air Unit. also Vikings dont shoot fast. Erm... Marine anyone? Ye. But he means for mechplay. Vikings are already pretty much the best anti air/cost in such situations - even without Raven support. You can't have the cake and eat it too. I am not sure fixing that particular "problem" should be that high on the agenda... but that's just me.
Just replace the thor. Or redesign the thor heavely.
Thor has always felt very lame.
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On November 09 2014 04:11 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2014 04:07 Foxxan wrote:On November 09 2014 04:07 Doublemint wrote:On November 09 2014 04:00 Tresher wrote:On November 09 2014 03:27 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 09 2014 03:26 Tresher wrote:Not having played with it but judging it early. Great idea. It looks stupid after watching the final showmatch but Blizzard better not make the same mistake they did with the Warhound: removing it instead of redesigning or balancing it. Just make it a generic vehicle that shoots air without lock on. Just make it a reliable Mech anti-air cause thats what Terran lacks with Mech. An Anti- Air Unit that shoots fast and is mobile. Hell even if they remove it bring back the Warhound that shoots Air without that Anti Mechanical crap. You know that viking is an anti air unit ? Im talking about a mobile GROUND Anti-Air Unit. also Vikings dont shoot fast. Erm... Marine anyone? Ye. But he means for mechplay. Vikings are already pretty much the best anti air/cost in such situations - even without Raven support. You can't have the cake and eat it too. I am not sure fixing that particular "problem" should be that high on the agenda... but that's just me.
Vikings are far from being THE best Anti-Air. Poor reading skills again. Im talking about a GROUND Mech Unit.
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On November 09 2014 04:11 Tresher wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2014 04:09 Big J wrote:On November 09 2014 04:08 Tresher wrote:On November 09 2014 04:07 Doublemint wrote:On November 09 2014 04:00 Tresher wrote:On November 09 2014 03:27 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 09 2014 03:26 Tresher wrote:Not having played with it but judging it early. Great idea. It looks stupid after watching the final showmatch but Blizzard better not make the same mistake they did with the Warhound: removing it instead of redesigning or balancing it. Just make it a generic vehicle that shoots air without lock on. Just make it a reliable Mech anti-air cause thats what Terran lacks with Mech. An Anti- Air Unit that shoots fast and is mobile. Hell even if they remove it bring back the Warhound that shoots Air without that Anti Mechanical crap. You know that viking is an anti air unit ? Im talking about a mobile GROUND Anti-Air Unit. also Vikings dont shoot fast. Erm... Marine anyone? Do you have Marines when you play Mech? I dont. Do I need marines when I play Mech? I don't. Thats what I said? Seriously stop this trolling guys.
you said you need a mobile anti-air unit. To which someone told you you had vikings.
Then you said you want to have it ground based. Then someone said you have marines.
Then you said you want it to be mech. to which I ask why you need a marine with mech.
To which you say you don't.
So do you need a mobile anti-air, or don't you?
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Looks super boring watching the showmatches. They should have stopped after Broodwar.
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On November 09 2014 04:13 Tresher wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2014 04:11 Doublemint wrote:On November 09 2014 04:07 Foxxan wrote:On November 09 2014 04:07 Doublemint wrote:On November 09 2014 04:00 Tresher wrote:On November 09 2014 03:27 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 09 2014 03:26 Tresher wrote:Not having played with it but judging it early. Great idea. It looks stupid after watching the final showmatch but Blizzard better not make the same mistake they did with the Warhound: removing it instead of redesigning or balancing it. Just make it a generic vehicle that shoots air without lock on. Just make it a reliable Mech anti-air cause thats what Terran lacks with Mech. An Anti- Air Unit that shoots fast and is mobile. Hell even if they remove it bring back the Warhound that shoots Air without that Anti Mechanical crap. You know that viking is an anti air unit ? Im talking about a mobile GROUND Anti-Air Unit. also Vikings dont shoot fast. Erm... Marine anyone? Ye. But he means for mechplay. Vikings are already pretty much the best anti air/cost in such situations - even without Raven support. You can't have the cake and eat it too. I am not sure fixing that particular "problem" should be that high on the agenda... but that's just me. Vikings are far from being THE best Anti-Air. Poor reading skills again. Im talking about a GROUND Mech Unit.
 okey good sir, I will better my reading skills! Maybe I will then be able to understand your wishlist to santa.
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On November 09 2014 04:13 Tresher wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2014 04:11 Doublemint wrote:On November 09 2014 04:07 Foxxan wrote:On November 09 2014 04:07 Doublemint wrote:On November 09 2014 04:00 Tresher wrote:On November 09 2014 03:27 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 09 2014 03:26 Tresher wrote:Not having played with it but judging it early. Great idea. It looks stupid after watching the final showmatch but Blizzard better not make the same mistake they did with the Warhound: removing it instead of redesigning or balancing it. Just make it a generic vehicle that shoots air without lock on. Just make it a reliable Mech anti-air cause thats what Terran lacks with Mech. An Anti- Air Unit that shoots fast and is mobile. Hell even if they remove it bring back the Warhound that shoots Air without that Anti Mechanical crap. You know that viking is an anti air unit ? Im talking about a mobile GROUND Anti-Air Unit. also Vikings dont shoot fast. Erm... Marine anyone? Ye. But he means for mechplay. Vikings are already pretty much the best anti air/cost in such situations - even without Raven support. You can't have the cake and eat it too. I am not sure fixing that particular "problem" should be that high on the agenda... but that's just me. Vikings are far from being THE best Anti-Air. Poor reading skills again. Im talking about a GROUND Mech Unit.
Thor?
Not that I really disagree, personally I'd greatly prefer having Goliath over Thor.
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On November 09 2014 04:19 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2014 04:13 Tresher wrote:On November 09 2014 04:11 Doublemint wrote:On November 09 2014 04:07 Foxxan wrote:On November 09 2014 04:07 Doublemint wrote:On November 09 2014 04:00 Tresher wrote:On November 09 2014 03:27 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 09 2014 03:26 Tresher wrote:Not having played with it but judging it early. Great idea. It looks stupid after watching the final showmatch but Blizzard better not make the same mistake they did with the Warhound: removing it instead of redesigning or balancing it. Just make it a generic vehicle that shoots air without lock on. Just make it a reliable Mech anti-air cause thats what Terran lacks with Mech. An Anti- Air Unit that shoots fast and is mobile. Hell even if they remove it bring back the Warhound that shoots Air without that Anti Mechanical crap. You know that viking is an anti air unit ? Im talking about a mobile GROUND Anti-Air Unit. also Vikings dont shoot fast. Erm... Marine anyone? Ye. But he means for mechplay. Vikings are already pretty much the best anti air/cost in such situations - even without Raven support. You can't have the cake and eat it too. I am not sure fixing that particular "problem" should be that high on the agenda... but that's just me. Vikings are far from being THE best Anti-Air. Poor reading skills again. Im talking about a GROUND Mech Unit. Thor? Not that I really disagree, personally I'd greatly prefer having Goliath over Thor.
Please read all my posts about this topic. The fact that people bring up Marines when I talk about Mech or Thor when I talk about a mobile fast shooting Mech ground anti air is just... I have no words to describe this. I really feel trolled while not be able to do anything against it. Big J seems to be the biggest thats why Im not answering him anymore.
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On November 09 2014 04:11 Samx wrote:
Despite so many buffs for terran mech for LotV, somehow I get the feeling that all we will ever see in LotV is terran pros going bio again.
I disagree. Bio still doesn't have much of a late game and mech + starport units got a lot better. DK said yesterday that he hopes the bio player will transition out of bio as the game goes on.
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On November 09 2014 04:23 Tresher wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2014 04:19 Shikyo wrote:On November 09 2014 04:13 Tresher wrote:On November 09 2014 04:11 Doublemint wrote:On November 09 2014 04:07 Foxxan wrote:On November 09 2014 04:07 Doublemint wrote:On November 09 2014 04:00 Tresher wrote:On November 09 2014 03:27 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 09 2014 03:26 Tresher wrote:Not having played with it but judging it early. Great idea. It looks stupid after watching the final showmatch but Blizzard better not make the same mistake they did with the Warhound: removing it instead of redesigning or balancing it. Just make it a generic vehicle that shoots air without lock on. Just make it a reliable Mech anti-air cause thats what Terran lacks with Mech. An Anti- Air Unit that shoots fast and is mobile. Hell even if they remove it bring back the Warhound that shoots Air without that Anti Mechanical crap. You know that viking is an anti air unit ? Im talking about a mobile GROUND Anti-Air Unit. also Vikings dont shoot fast. Erm... Marine anyone? Ye. But he means for mechplay. Vikings are already pretty much the best anti air/cost in such situations - even without Raven support. You can't have the cake and eat it too. I am not sure fixing that particular "problem" should be that high on the agenda... but that's just me. Vikings are far from being THE best Anti-Air. Poor reading skills again. Im talking about a GROUND Mech Unit. Thor? Not that I really disagree, personally I'd greatly prefer having Goliath over Thor. Please read all my posts about this topic. The fact that people bring up Marines when I talk about Mech or Thor when I talk about a mobile fast shooting Mech ground anti air is just... I have no words to describe this. I really feel trolled while not be able to do anything against it.
That's some meta trolling right there!
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On November 09 2014 04:24 royalroadweed wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2014 04:11 Samx wrote:
Despite so many buffs for terran mech for LotV, somehow I get the feeling that all we will ever see in LotV is terran pros going bio again. I disagree. Bio still doesn't have much of a late game and mech + starport units got a lot better. DK said yesterday that he hopes the bio player will transition out of bio as the game goes on.
It has a late game when it's the most mobile option and mobility is rewarded much more.
I can see players mixing in Banshee's or BC's late game, but not tanks..... though this depends on how "OP" medivac + tanks are.
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Tbh any speculation now might be fun, but it shouldn't be taken serious. Look at HOTS announcement. Well zerg got pretty much everything, terran got some stuff which had very little similarity to what was announced, toss didn't get anything from the announcement.
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On November 09 2014 04:32 Sissors wrote:
Tbh any speculation now might be fun, but it shouldn't be taken serious. Look at HOTS announcement. Well zerg got pretty much everything, terran got some stuff which had very little similarity to what was announced, toss didn't get anything from the announcement.
I just hope we don't get knee jerk reactions like what we had in the past.
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On November 09 2014 04:23 Tresher wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2014 04:19 Shikyo wrote:On November 09 2014 04:13 Tresher wrote:On November 09 2014 04:11 Doublemint wrote:On November 09 2014 04:07 Foxxan wrote:On November 09 2014 04:07 Doublemint wrote:On November 09 2014 04:00 Tresher wrote:On November 09 2014 03:27 FFW_Rude wrote:On November 09 2014 03:26 Tresher wrote:Not having played with it but judging it early. Great idea. It looks stupid after watching the final showmatch but Blizzard better not make the same mistake they did with the Warhound: removing it instead of redesigning or balancing it. Just make it a generic vehicle that shoots air without lock on. Just make it a reliable Mech anti-air cause thats what Terran lacks with Mech. An Anti- Air Unit that shoots fast and is mobile. Hell even if they remove it bring back the Warhound that shoots Air without that Anti Mechanical crap. You know that viking is an anti air unit ? Im talking about a mobile GROUND Anti-Air Unit. also Vikings dont shoot fast. Erm... Marine anyone? Ye. But he means for mechplay. Vikings are already pretty much the best anti air/cost in such situations - even without Raven support. You can't have the cake and eat it too. I am not sure fixing that particular "problem" should be that high on the agenda... but that's just me. Vikings are far from being THE best Anti-Air. Poor reading skills again. Im talking about a GROUND Mech Unit. Thor? Not that I really disagree, personally I'd greatly prefer having Goliath over Thor. Please read all my posts about this topic. The fact that people bring up Marines when I talk about Mech or Thor when I talk about a mobile fast shooting Mech ground anti air is just... I have no words to describe this. I really feel trolled while not be able to do anything against it. Big J seems to be the biggest thats why Im not answering him anymore.
Well, what I said wasn't wrong. You just kept on specifying what you want step by step anytime someone brought up a unit that already did what you asked for.
Of course one could have realized from the context that you were looking for a mobile, groundbased Mech antiair unit. But then you could have also realized that my first comment also meant that I disagree and think you actually don't need such a unit.
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GET RID OF THIS RETARDED SWARM HOST UNIT FFS. At least, i'm glad they're making it manual, but seriously why not delete it now that we got our lurker back ?
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On November 09 2014 04:49 RaiZ wrote:
GET RID OF THIS RETARDED SWARM HOST UNIT FFS. At least, i'm glad they're making it manual, but seriously why not delete it now that we got our lurker back ?
"we want everything to be op guise"
blizzard just appeasing the lovely fans :^)
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What do you think of the game balance from a protoss perspective. I am still shocked. I saw the TvP (MC, Hyung, Polt, Soo) Team Match at BlizzCon. Terran won easy 3-0 by also using the new units.
I dont see any good changes for Protoss, as the 2 other races are getting many more possibilities and way stronger.
Your opinions?
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On November 09 2014 04:49 RaiZ wrote:
GET RID OF THIS RETARDED SWARM HOST UNIT FFS. At least, i'm glad they're making it manual, but seriously why not delete it now that we got our lurker back ?
Swarm Host and Lurker have nothing in common and never did. They are completely different units with different roles.
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On November 09 2014 05:00 JimiSC2 wrote:
What do you think of the game balance from a protoss perspective. I am still shocked. I saw the TvP (MC, Hyung, Polt, Soo) Team Match at BlizzCon. Terran won easy 3-0 by also using the new units.
I dont see any good changes for Protoss, as the 2 other races are getting many more possibilities and way stronger.
Your opinions?
Terran is way to strong like always in the early beta, but just don't think about balance right now.
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