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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On November 08 2014 08:01 Hider wrote: 6 bases at 15 minute mark???? That just can't be right. Or maybe they are also reducing build time of bases by like 50% or so. I'd suspect expansions will be cheaper and build faster? Just thinking about it makes me so hyped, it will be a different game quite frankly. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
Gotta love the schizophrenic Starcraft community. Everyone wants change, but no one wants change. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9366 Posts
On November 08 2014 08:02 shin_toss wrote: well I think its too early to QQ. But based on the videos alone I think Zerg is strongest overall and Terran in early game. Still Idk whats the point of Herc lol looks very silly. Well based on the video, the point of the Herc is to prevent terrans from using the Siege Tank as a softcounter to Lurkers. Instead they want the Herc to "hardcounter" it by amoving... Yeh, this kinda sound like Blizzard really had no idea what second unit they should give terran. It wasn't even like Blizzard showed any new micro interaction with it. Stalkers could blink back vs them, but they can do that vs every unit. It could attack a mothership core, but a couple of marines and a widow mine does that as well. | ||
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lopido
Canada245 Posts
We Protoss Are getting fucked in our own extension. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24192 Posts
On November 08 2014 08:06 lopido wrote: what i think after watching all these videos : We Protoss Are getting fucked in our own extension. Just like Zergs in HotS and Terrans in WoL. Unfortunately this is the final iteration so we'll be the worst race from LotV on. After all this makes sense, Protoss already got the least medals in BW. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9366 Posts
On November 08 2014 08:04 Musicus wrote: I'd suspect expansions will be cheaper and build faster? Just thinking about it makes me so hyped, it will be a different game quite frankly. If they are willing to balance the game around bases being much cheaper and faster to build, then I don't understand why they aren't willing to redesign the Collosus.... or what about PDD of the raven. You are gonna need to make so many changes to the races in order to get this new economy to work, and I don't have fate that Blizzard is competent enough to do this over a reasonable time period. The current economy really isn't as bad in itself as many make it out to be. Rather its the design of the units and mechanics in the game that are very poorly executed. | ||
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ElfenLied
Germany121 Posts
But these changes, I have to say, look really good to me. Sure, some minor adjustments are needed ofc, but in general most of them seem to favor good micro play... with also micro opportunities against them. Finally they took care of the roaches being a dead end tech tree. The Hardened Shield change is also fantastic, finally micro needed! However I don't like the invisibility of Nydus, this might be too strong against many tactics and favor base trades. Invulnerable should be enough. The Cyclone seems to be a bit unbalanced as well. I'm missing strong weaknesses here: deals high damage to single target, built in moving shot, speed of a stalker (wow), lock on to deal more damage, big range, vs air and ground... I don't get the economy changes yet, it's written a bit sloppy here and cannot find much information online.. | ||
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JacobShock
Denmark2485 Posts
On November 08 2014 08:05 WolfintheSheep wrote: Lol, are we seriously getting balance whine already? Gotta love the schizophrenic Starcraft community. Everyone wants change, but no one wants change. Everyone is a pseudo game developer. | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
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Yrr
Germany803 Posts
On November 08 2014 07:59 ZAiNs wrote: That doesn't make sense though. If 12 was optimal, then that means there are 6 patches (as opposed to the 8 now), in which case 18 would be maximum and not 16. If 2 of the 6 are closer another worker mining there might not give you anything. | ||
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nimb
Brazil5 Posts
zerg looks kinda op, we will see carrieeeeeeeeeeeeeeers! | ||
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FLuE
United States1012 Posts
On November 08 2014 08:07 [PkF] Wire wrote: Just like Zergs in HotS and Terrans in WoL. Unfortunately this is the final iteration so we'll be the worst race from LotV on. After all this makes sense, Protoss already got the least medals in BW. This is like 40 pages of you just bitching and complaining. You even complained about the polls. Get a life. | ||
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Existor
Russian Federation4295 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 08 2014 08:05 WolfintheSheep wrote: Lol, are we seriously getting balance whine already? Gotta love the schizophrenic Starcraft community. Everyone wants change, but no one wants change. Come on Wolf, you and I have been saying it for like 4 years now. They change the number of workers or put a number over the town hall and everyone flips their shit. Remember when they added auto split? Thats why I love Dota, the changes just drop right on our head, no built up, no balance test map. Just Bang, change, fucking figure it out. SC2 we need like at least 5 months of hang wringing before we can touch the beta. Then once the beta hits, 45 uninformed people will post long winded ideas on what is wrong with the game, even though they are not in the beta. And the cycle continues. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On November 08 2014 08:10 Existor wrote: Here is HD-logo from press-page for 1st post + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mHSwpCD.png) I was waiting for you to post something for the OP  . | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
Hopefully it removes the incessant need to deathball everything and also the lower resources per base is a very good move. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24192 Posts
On November 08 2014 08:10 FLuE wrote: This is like 40 pages of you just bitching and complaining. You even complained about the polls. Get a life. ? Just because I said I'm not enthusiastic about the changes I'm bitching and complaining ? So what, we have to say we're in love with what's being done even if some things worry us ? | ||
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
On November 08 2014 08:10 Existor wrote: So pretty! Here is HD-logo from press-page for 1st post + Show Spoiler + | ||
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kuan888
Canada305 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On November 08 2014 07:59 Kokujin wrote: I feel like the worker change is catering to bad players who can't macro and make workers, aka casual players. Might make the game easier, bringing more players in. No, the opposite. It's catering to broadcasters and the BEST players — they realize that watching experienced, top-flight pro's build fucking workers for the first three minutes of the game is very boring, not a real indication of skill, and very predictable in 90% of all games. It's about speeding up the early game and allowing people to make real decisions faster. | ||
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