EPTSeason 4 Ladder Map Pool: Voting Begins! - Page 28
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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MstrJinbo
United States1251 Posts
On October 09 2014 03:43 vult wrote: METALOPOLISSS! I'm thinking Metalopolis will be a good swarmhost map  | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24203 Posts
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digmouse
China6329 Posts
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jubil
United States2602 Posts
As far as balance goes, as far as I remember, close by ground spawns were ridiculously TvZ favored (2 rax anyone? same 3rd location?) but those will be disabled. Close by air was also pretty good for terran cuz the push distance was short and you could play with elevator tactics pretty easily, but again, disabled. However, cross spawns was actually really good for the Zerg, since both the natural and the 3rd are extremely open, and the pushing path, while narrow, was somewhat long and open to counterattacks. I'm less experienced with toss but I imagine for the same reasons it'll be ZvP favored. So overall, a good zerg map. I'm not convinced it'll be a natural swarm host map though - certainly can be if you get a split map scenario, but tempests and tanks are pretty good as well on this map in that situation, what with the dead space and elevations in the middle. | ||
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PinoKotsBeer
Netherlands1385 Posts
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
On October 09 2014 05:15 PinoKotsBeer wrote: Put SH at the gold base and "enjoy" the game... Kick your feet back and have a beer while that's going on. Probably play a couple games at once doing that. | ||
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Popkiller
3415 Posts
On October 09 2014 04:03 [PkF] Wire wrote: This is getting worse and worse. You can basically just leave the game as P when the game begins if the opponent is Z. I think I'll run out of vetos before the fourth map is announced. I guess I'll learn what "off-season" really means. hmm, I wouldn't mind all protosses being removed from the ladder. | ||
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Digitalz1
Canada72 Posts
Also didnt a certain protoss player have this unstoppable cannon rush on this map that would abuse the mineral patches and was just ridiculous lol. | ||
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MstrJinbo
United States1251 Posts
On October 09 2014 05:36 Digitalz1 wrote: hmm, i think for Zergs this is like a MUST veto, without being able to secure your natural and wall off with the current meta your pretty much forced into playing an aggressive build but i really dont know how it would play out :/ Also didnt a certain protoss player have this unstoppable cannon rush on this map that would abuse the mineral patches and was just ridiculous lol. Metal was a 60% win rate map for zerg back in the day. Not vetoing it I'm zerg this season. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24203 Posts
On October 09 2014 05:30 Popkiller wrote: hmm, I wouldn't mind all protosses being removed from the ladder. I wouldn't mind all trolls removed from the surface of the earth, but I fear the results of the vote and your post both show it's not the case yet. I mean come on, your post is absolutely gratuitous and childish. A rough third of this game fans play protoss, wishing they were removed from the ladder is just preposterous. And by the way, I just played a game on Metalopolis against a Z, and in the end I guess you kinda can secure your natural because it allows pretty good Sim City. So I may give this map a chance. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On October 09 2014 05:45 [PkF] Wire wrote: I wouldn't mind all trolls removed from the surface of the earth, but I fear the results of the vote and your post both show it's not the case yet. I mean come on, your post is absolutely gratuitous and childish. A rough third of this game fans play protoss, wishing they were removed from the ladder is just preposterous. And by the way, I just played a game on Metalopolis against a Z, and in the end I guess you kinda can secure your natural because it allows pretty good Sim City. So I may give this map a chance. lol. thats hardly heavy trolling by sc2 community standards, in fact it was pretty funny and lighthearted. there's nothing wrong with a little racial rivalry as long as nobody is going full gold league void ray imba QQ. | ||
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Zheryn
Sweden3653 Posts
On October 09 2014 04:03 [PkF] Wire wrote: This is getting worse and worse. You can basically just leave the game as P when the game begins if the opponent is Z. I think I'll run out of vetos before the fourth map is announced. I guess I'll learn what "off-season" really means. I had some hopes when CK was the first map that the people voting for maps where you can at least play a somewhat real game would be more than people who votes for shitty 2010 maps which are ridiculously imbalanced and forces cheesy builds every game. With metalopolis out now I'm really scared that I won't be able to ladder next season. Even tho I play zerg and a lot of these maps would be ZvP favored in terms of win rates, it's just a waste of time to play a game you know exactly how it will play out beforehand and that doesn't give any real practise. The current map pool is the worst pool since WoL, so now I have to play some maps that are really retarded in some MUs (merry go round ZvZ, deadwing) because there's not enough vetos. Hopefully there will be atleast 2 playable maps for next season, if there are 3 of them I'd be happy, just a shame that I have to waste time leaving games/doing blind cheese on the maps I can't veto. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On October 09 2014 05:42 MstrJinbo wrote: Metal was a 60% win rate map for zerg back in the day. Not vetoing it I'm zerg this season. the winrate went up to that point because of broodlords and the other races opening super save against Zerg. So Zerg basically eco cheesed every game. Won't work with Reapers and Mothership core seeing everything xD . Zerg just takes the gold now though and Swarmhosts from there. | ||
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starslayer
United States696 Posts
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[PkF] Wire
France24203 Posts
On October 09 2014 07:34 Zheryn wrote: I had some hopes when CK was the first map that the people voting for maps where you can at least play a somewhat real game would be more than people who votes for shitty 2010 maps which are ridiculously imbalanced and forces cheesy builds every game. With metalopolis out now I'm really scared that I won't be able to ladder next season. Even tho I play zerg and a lot of these maps would be ZvP favored in terms of win rates, it's just a waste of time to play a game you know exactly how it will play out beforehand and that doesn't give any real practise. The current map pool is the worst pool since WoL, so now I have to play some maps that are really retarded in some MUs (merry go round ZvZ, deadwing) because there's not enough vetos. Hopefully there will be atleast 2 playable maps for next season, if there are 3 of them I'd be happy, just a shame that I have to waste time leaving games/doing blind cheese on the maps I can't veto. Same for me. CK first (and not Steppes of War for instance...) was a good surprise, but Metalopolis second is definitely a surprise too, and not a pleasant one. I'm quite worried about what we're gonna get next days... If Shattered Temple, Xel'naga Caverns and Steppes of War all come along Metalopolis -which is alas likely-, the map pool will basically be unplayable. | ||
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Tzela
Canada48 Posts
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Erik.TheRed
United States1655 Posts
Wouldn't surprise me if a lot of the foreign pros just played counter strike/LoL/passionstone over the next few months and fall even further behind the koreans next year. | ||
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