EPTNow they are just gonna be another GO4SC2 with more money.
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WCS AM will continue to include LatAm, Oceania/SEA, CN, and TW/HK/Macau, you can all stop freaking out about it. | ||
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The_Masked_Shrimp
425 Posts
Now they are just gonna be another GO4SC2 with more money. | ||
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AWalker9
United Kingdom7229 Posts
On September 06 2014 02:22 The_Templar wrote: MC, you mean that guy that went 2-3 against a player in Code S RO16? It's kind of a silly discussion because I'm pretty sure MC will stay in Europe anyway. | ||
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Starecat
940 Posts
Skill doesn't matter. | ||
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Luolis
Finland7139 Posts
On September 06 2014 02:25 Starecat wrote: Less than 7K on the WTB, IEM with Flash got +60K. Skill doesn't matter. Yes an online tour provided by an organisation of a few casters with a fairly samll prizepool vs one of the most well known and respected LAN events in the world. I wonder where the difference is. Get a functional brain, please. | ||
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Epamynondas
387 Posts
On September 06 2014 02:25 Starecat wrote: Less than 7K on the WTB, IEM with Flash got +60K. Skill doesn't matter. Production and tournament name don't matter at all either. | ||
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AWalker9
United Kingdom7229 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On September 06 2014 02:34 AWalker9 wrote: https://twitter.com/PaulChaloner/status/507944671809900544 Where would AM/EU compete? | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
on a giant floating barge in the middle of the Atlantic | ||
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iamcaustic
Canada1509 Posts
On September 05 2014 17:44 DarkLordOlli wrote: If you think people can just up and move their entire lives to somewhere else because Blizzard decided to region lock WCS, then you're delusional. 1) The level of play in America will be an absolute joke. There will also be no reason for WCS AM players to ever improve, because they'll be playing against Americans the entire time. There's no challenge. Qxc said it best when he said that they don't need the Koreans OUT of WCS, they need them to stick around consistently enough to raise the level of play. 2) Korea NEEDS another tournament. GSL is NOT enough to saturate the Korean scene and retirements will flood in like crazy if these changes are implemented. There is no chance for 99% of Koreans in GSL and there is no hope for anyone to come through. 3) The WCS finals will be an absolute joke of a tournament. It'll be Americans and Europeans, who had neither incentive nor possibility to improve getting absolutely SLAUGHTERED by the best of the best Koreans. That's not interesting. You can have that at any given foreign event. Blizzcon loses its status as the biggest finals of the year to just another weekend tournament where you'll already be able to narrow down the winner to about 5-10 players, depending on how many good Koreans make it. HORRIBLE changes in my opinion. I was asleep for this whole argument, but honestly thinking like that is incredibly short-sighted and based entirely around one dubious premise: that players won't improve when given better opportunity to do so. It seems like backwards logic to me. This whole idea that players can only get better if they play with Koreans ignores one really obvious question: how did the Koreans get good in the first place? It's a simple answer: they had the financial means to establish better training infrastructure. Living off ramen just to lose to a Korean in tournaments isn't incentive to dedicate one's self to reaching the same level as pro Koreans. Working to one-up your peers for a real chance to win money is. Right now there's no money to invest in real coaching staff like Korea does. EG tried it for a bit during the EGTL proleague stint with Coach Park, but that's about it, and they were only able to do it due to their lucrative position as one of the few profitable western teams. | ||
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Zahanator
Czech Republic51 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On September 06 2014 02:43 Zahanator wrote: Well, foreigners will surely have fun with all that easy cash from WCS... Then they will just get slaughtered at season finals and international tournaments even harder than before. Seriously, GSL should now get ridiculously more money and points with all that skill and talent concentrated in one region. Wait, will there be season finals? That would be cool. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On September 06 2014 02:45 The_Templar wrote: Wait, will there be season finals? That would be cool. There were so many complains about them I doubt they'll be brought back but I guess we'll find out when Blizzard releases more info | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On September 06 2014 02:46 Shellshock wrote: There were so many complains about them I doubt they'll be brought back but I guess we'll find out when Blizzard releases more info Well, the people at season finals made it so that there was actually enough points given to the players that got top 5/6 of WCS that Blizzcon had most of the top players of the year. That worked out pretty well. | ||
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imrusty269
United States1404 Posts
On September 06 2014 02:45 The_Templar wrote: Wait, will there be season finals? That would be cool. A good and natural way for Koreans to gain more points. But I'll only be happy if the ratio is 8:4:4 for KR:NA:EU | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
Sealand | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
haha i was literally going to write the same .. stealer | ||
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[16thSq] Kuro
1215 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/2fjw73/what_if_gsl_and_osl_ran_simultaneously_in_korea/ Definitely what Korea needs now is more opportunities to get points either through more Korean tournaments or more online ones. | ||
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Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On September 06 2014 02:41 Shellshock wrote: on a giant floating barge in the middle of the Atlantic Also known as Iceland. | ||
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
EDIT: I felt that "argument" wasn't the right word, as this discussion has remained generally civil so far. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
Iceland *too late* | ||
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