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So... if Flash decides he wants to play WCS AM and moves to Brazil will he be able to play WCS AM?
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United States23455 Posts
On September 06 2014 01:38 ivancype wrote:
So... if Flash decides he wants to play WCS AM and moves to Brazil will he be able to play WCS AM?
Presumably? This is a ridiculous hypothetical that would never happen and would be an odd way of going about moving to the AM region for WCS but sure seems like he could do that.
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On September 06 2014 01:38 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 01:19 ShowTheLights wrote:On September 06 2014 00:36 bypLy wrote:
making wcs boring....
so sad this happend agreed.. Koreans up'd the level of play and now this is screwing them over so hard b.c. WCS Korea is already so stacked. hopefully there is more to give for koreans Can someone PLEASE explain to me why they think this is a good change for Koreans and level of gameplay for viewers? I understand VERY well why it is good for foreigners, they get more spots and will not have to compete with most Koreans in WCS AM and EU. but this hurts the level of gameplay so much, and SO, MANY, KOREANS, who are not GSL Code S top 8 level will be unable to compete or most likely will retire or not be able to make a living with progaming. Do you think Pigbaby, Nestea, the entire Axiom team, Seed, Oz, just to name a few, would be able to compete in GSL Code S? No. So imagine if you saw most of the Axiom team disband, Nestea retiring, Seed retiring. What about jjajki, who just fell out of WCS EU? How would you feel then about this change? I feel like people would then see the consequences of this. They can get residence in the area they want to compete in WCS, like in most other sports. Otherwise, good luck to them in GSL.
You make it seem like I can call up the US embassy today and say "hey I play Starcraft can you give me a visa so I can compete in this thing called WCS AM". And then they give me a visa just like that and I can find a place to stay and everything.
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On September 06 2014 01:30 andrewlt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 01:17 Plansix wrote:On September 06 2014 00:55 andrewlt wrote:On September 06 2014 00:26 Heat_023 wrote:On September 06 2014 00:20 FuRRie wrote:
Great, more random foreigners crappy games... I'm curious to know what league the author of a comment like this is in, if I may ask? That's just a retarded question. Most fans who only watch the NBA aren't good enough at basketball to make the Filipino basketball league. And people watch college and amature sports too. Even little league. The skill level of the play has nothing to do if people with watch it or not. I don't. People don't watch amateur sports for the level of play. For US amateur sports, the people watching are alumni with an almost religious connection to the school they are watching. They are there to connect with their classmates. The game itself is just a sideshow.
Uh, what? College football/basketball is amazing fun to watch, even if I have zero connection with the teams.
You can have incredibly exciting games, without tip-top level skill. That's the point that's trying to be made, here. As long as there is something to play for, games can ALWAYS be exciting.
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On September 06 2014 01:40 AWalker9 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 01:38 -Archangel- wrote:On September 06 2014 01:19 ShowTheLights wrote:On September 06 2014 00:36 bypLy wrote:
making wcs boring....
so sad this happend agreed.. Koreans up'd the level of play and now this is screwing them over so hard b.c. WCS Korea is already so stacked. hopefully there is more to give for koreans Can someone PLEASE explain to me why they think this is a good change for Koreans and level of gameplay for viewers? I understand VERY well why it is good for foreigners, they get more spots and will not have to compete with most Koreans in WCS AM and EU. but this hurts the level of gameplay so much, and SO, MANY, KOREANS, who are not GSL Code S top 8 level will be unable to compete or most likely will retire or not be able to make a living with progaming. Do you think Pigbaby, Nestea, the entire Axiom team, Seed, Oz, just to name a few, would be able to compete in GSL Code S? No. So imagine if you saw most of the Axiom team disband, Nestea retiring, Seed retiring. What about jjajki, who just fell out of WCS EU? How would you feel then about this change? I feel like people would then see the consequences of this. They can get residence in the area they want to compete in WCS, like in most other sports. Otherwise, good luck to them in GSL. You make it seem like I can call up the US embassy today and say "hey I play Starcraft can you give me a visa so I can compete in this thing called WCS AM". And then they give me a visa just like that and I can find a place to stay and everything.
Apparently getting a US visa isn't that hard if you follow the process correctly and don't screw yourself up. But yeah finding a place to live in a foreign country where you may or may not be fluent in the main language is tough stuff
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On September 06 2014 01:42 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 01:40 AWalker9 wrote:On September 06 2014 01:38 -Archangel- wrote:On September 06 2014 01:19 ShowTheLights wrote:On September 06 2014 00:36 bypLy wrote:
making wcs boring....
so sad this happend agreed.. Koreans up'd the level of play and now this is screwing them over so hard b.c. WCS Korea is already so stacked. hopefully there is more to give for koreans Can someone PLEASE explain to me why they think this is a good change for Koreans and level of gameplay for viewers? I understand VERY well why it is good for foreigners, they get more spots and will not have to compete with most Koreans in WCS AM and EU. but this hurts the level of gameplay so much, and SO, MANY, KOREANS, who are not GSL Code S top 8 level will be unable to compete or most likely will retire or not be able to make a living with progaming. Do you think Pigbaby, Nestea, the entire Axiom team, Seed, Oz, just to name a few, would be able to compete in GSL Code S? No. So imagine if you saw most of the Axiom team disband, Nestea retiring, Seed retiring. What about jjajki, who just fell out of WCS EU? How would you feel then about this change? I feel like people would then see the consequences of this. They can get residence in the area they want to compete in WCS, like in most other sports. Otherwise, good luck to them in GSL. You make it seem like I can call up the US embassy today and say "hey I play Starcraft can you give me a visa so I can compete in this thing called WCS AM". And then they give me a visa just like that and I can find a place to stay and everything. Apparently getting a US visa isn't that hard if you follow the process correctly and don't screw yourself up. But yeah finding a place to live in a foreign country where you may or may not be fluent in the main language is tough stuff
It's still way harder than most other countries.
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Kinda too early to freak out right now to be honest. We don't know what the change will be in the full picture, such as how many points premier non-WCS tournament will give to the top 4, etc. If the points giving out for Dreamhack, IEM is on par with WCS, then it would not be that bad for Koreans.
We also still don't know that will Blizz help Korean to get a visa easier in the future or not too. I think if Blizz really want, they might have enough lobbying power (as Activision-Blizzard) to help some players get the visa easier than the current situation.
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On September 06 2014 01:42 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 01:40 AWalker9 wrote:On September 06 2014 01:38 -Archangel- wrote:On September 06 2014 01:19 ShowTheLights wrote:On September 06 2014 00:36 bypLy wrote:
making wcs boring....
so sad this happend agreed.. Koreans up'd the level of play and now this is screwing them over so hard b.c. WCS Korea is already so stacked. hopefully there is more to give for koreans Can someone PLEASE explain to me why they think this is a good change for Koreans and level of gameplay for viewers? I understand VERY well why it is good for foreigners, they get more spots and will not have to compete with most Koreans in WCS AM and EU. but this hurts the level of gameplay so much, and SO, MANY, KOREANS, who are not GSL Code S top 8 level will be unable to compete or most likely will retire or not be able to make a living with progaming. Do you think Pigbaby, Nestea, the entire Axiom team, Seed, Oz, just to name a few, would be able to compete in GSL Code S? No. So imagine if you saw most of the Axiom team disband, Nestea retiring, Seed retiring. What about jjajki, who just fell out of WCS EU? How would you feel then about this change? I feel like people would then see the consequences of this. They can get residence in the area they want to compete in WCS, like in most other sports. Otherwise, good luck to them in GSL. You make it seem like I can call up the US embassy today and say "hey I play Starcraft can you give me a visa so I can compete in this thing called WCS AM". And then they give me a visa just like that and I can find a place to stay and everything. Apparently getting a US visa isn't that hard if you follow the process correctly and don't screw yourself up. But yeah finding a place to live in a foreign country where you may or may not be fluent in the main language is tough stuff
I know, it just seems like some people seem to thing it's easy to uproot your life and move to a country where you don't speak the language and might not know anybody.
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On September 06 2014 01:38 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 01:37 Yhamm wrote:On September 06 2014 01:34 AWalker9 wrote:
WCS, not WCG it is highly hinted by Kim that GSL will give more WCS points 0/10 But Thooorin is a genius I thought
His impression of a whiny prepubescent certainly could be described as a work of genius.
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On September 06 2014 01:43 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 01:42 Darkhorse wrote:On September 06 2014 01:40 AWalker9 wrote:On September 06 2014 01:38 -Archangel- wrote:On September 06 2014 01:19 ShowTheLights wrote:On September 06 2014 00:36 bypLy wrote:
making wcs boring....
so sad this happend agreed.. Koreans up'd the level of play and now this is screwing them over so hard b.c. WCS Korea is already so stacked. hopefully there is more to give for koreans Can someone PLEASE explain to me why they think this is a good change for Koreans and level of gameplay for viewers? I understand VERY well why it is good for foreigners, they get more spots and will not have to compete with most Koreans in WCS AM and EU. but this hurts the level of gameplay so much, and SO, MANY, KOREANS, who are not GSL Code S top 8 level will be unable to compete or most likely will retire or not be able to make a living with progaming. Do you think Pigbaby, Nestea, the entire Axiom team, Seed, Oz, just to name a few, would be able to compete in GSL Code S? No. So imagine if you saw most of the Axiom team disband, Nestea retiring, Seed retiring. What about jjajki, who just fell out of WCS EU? How would you feel then about this change? I feel like people would then see the consequences of this. They can get residence in the area they want to compete in WCS, like in most other sports. Otherwise, good luck to them in GSL. You make it seem like I can call up the US embassy today and say "hey I play Starcraft can you give me a visa so I can compete in this thing called WCS AM". And then they give me a visa just like that and I can find a place to stay and everything. Apparently getting a US visa isn't that hard if you follow the process correctly and don't screw yourself up. But yeah finding a place to live in a foreign country where you may or may not be fluent in the main language is tough stuff It's still way harder than most other countries.
Probably. I wonder if it's easier to get a Canadian visa and just do it that way 
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I will watch Avilo no matter what if he qualifies. Most entertaining style in the game in my opinion, no joke, I'm being serious.
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On September 06 2014 00:26 Heat_023 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 00:20 FuRRie wrote:
Great, more random foreigners crappy games... I'm curious to know what league the author of a comment like this is in, if I may ask?
TLO disagrees with you
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On September 06 2014 01:40 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 01:38 ivancype wrote:
So... if Flash decides he wants to play WCS AM and moves to Brazil will he be able to play WCS AM? Presumably? This is a ridiculous hypothetical that would never happen and would be an odd way of going about moving to the AM region for WCS but sure seems like he could do that.
I used Flash's name just as an example. And Brazil is not the best country to move to either, living here is expensive. But even moving to the other regions that have WCS qualifiers. A more realistic example would be TRUE moving to taiwan (think playing for yoe Flash Wolves).
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On September 06 2014 01:41 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 01:30 andrewlt wrote:On September 06 2014 01:17 Plansix wrote:On September 06 2014 00:55 andrewlt wrote:On September 06 2014 00:26 Heat_023 wrote:On September 06 2014 00:20 FuRRie wrote:
Great, more random foreigners crappy games... I'm curious to know what league the author of a comment like this is in, if I may ask? That's just a retarded question. Most fans who only watch the NBA aren't good enough at basketball to make the Filipino basketball league. And people watch college and amature sports too. Even little league. The skill level of the play has nothing to do if people with watch it or not. I don't. People don't watch amateur sports for the level of play. For US amateur sports, the people watching are alumni with an almost religious connection to the school they are watching. They are there to connect with their classmates. The game itself is just a sideshow. Uh, what? College football/basketball is amazing fun to watch, even if I have zero connection with the teams. You can have incredibly exciting games, without tip-top level skill. That's the point that's trying to be made, here. As long as there is something to play for, games can ALWAYS be exciting.
While college sports is big, the viewership is still lower than that of professional leagues. It is heavily concentrated among people who have a connection to the schools in question.
I watch March Madness primarily because I have money wagered in some bracket. Without gambling, I seriously doubt the tournament would have the following it does right now. The point of that tournament is having lots of upsets and people generally don't pretend that the winner is the best team in the country.
SC2 fans are generally obsessed with crowning somebody as the best player. It would be unfortunate if the Blizzcon winner is still in that discussion considering how terrible the qualifications are.
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On September 06 2014 01:55 ivancype wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 01:40 Darkhorse wrote:On September 06 2014 01:38 ivancype wrote:
So... if Flash decides he wants to play WCS AM and moves to Brazil will he be able to play WCS AM? Presumably? This is a ridiculous hypothetical that would never happen and would be an odd way of going about moving to the AM region for WCS but sure seems like he could do that. I used Flash's name just as an example. And Brazil is not the best country to move to either, living here is expensive. But even moving to the other regions that have WCS qualifiers. A more realistic example would be TRUE moving to taiwan (think playing for yoe Flash Wolves).
TRUE is staying with Axiom permanently 
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On September 06 2014 02:03 AWalker9 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 01:55 ivancype wrote:On September 06 2014 01:40 Darkhorse wrote:On September 06 2014 01:38 ivancype wrote:
So... if Flash decides he wants to play WCS AM and moves to Brazil will he be able to play WCS AM? Presumably? This is a ridiculous hypothetical that would never happen and would be an odd way of going about moving to the AM region for WCS but sure seems like he could do that. I used Flash's name just as an example. And Brazil is not the best country to move to either, living here is expensive. But even moving to the other regions that have WCS qualifiers. A more realistic example would be TRUE moving to taiwan (think playing for yoe Flash Wolves). TRUE is staying with Axiom permanently https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/507913423452381184
Oh awesome. Is TRUE in fact on Dead Pixels or whoever it was then?
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Yeah~ mc back to the code b. Noob
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On September 06 2014 02:10 sm1995 wrote:
Yeah~ mc back to the code b. Noob
stop the hate dude
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On September 06 2014 02:05 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2014 02:03 AWalker9 wrote:On September 06 2014 01:55 ivancype wrote:On September 06 2014 01:40 Darkhorse wrote:On September 06 2014 01:38 ivancype wrote:
So... if Flash decides he wants to play WCS AM and moves to Brazil will he be able to play WCS AM? Presumably? This is a ridiculous hypothetical that would never happen and would be an odd way of going about moving to the AM region for WCS but sure seems like he could do that. I used Flash's name just as an example. And Brazil is not the best country to move to either, living here is expensive. But even moving to the other regions that have WCS qualifiers. A more realistic example would be TRUE moving to taiwan (think playing for yoe Flash Wolves). TRUE is staying with Axiom permanently https://twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/507913423452381184 Oh awesome. Is TRUE in fact on Dead Pixels or whoever it was then?
On their facebook page they indicate he is on the team https://www.facebook.com/DeadPixelsCH
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On September 06 2014 02:10 sm1995 wrote:
Yeah~ mc back to the code b. Noob
MC, you mean that guy that went 2-3 against a player in Code S RO16?
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