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WCS AM will continue to include LatAm, Oceania/SEA, CN, and TW/HK/Macau, you can all stop freaking out about it.
Jerom
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands588 Posts
September 05 2014 15:29 GMT
#741
Imo the real problem that isn't getting adressed is that the rewards for GSL are the same as the rewards for WCS EU/NA. With these changes that makes even less sense. The GSL is at least twice as to win, and should at least reward more WCS points.

With the current amount of WCS points, GSL winners aren't even sure to be going to the blizzcon finals. If you look at the people that are probably attending blizzcon, you honestly see a lot of mediocre Koreans that wouldn't even have a shot at winning the GSL. It's really unfortunate, because it just takes away from the quality of blizzcon.
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
September 05 2014 15:32 GMT
#742
On September 06 2014 00:15 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 23:49 Squat wrote:
On September 05 2014 23:27 Grumbels wrote:
I only care about the Korean scene, I just want a stacked gsl/proleague with all the best players.

Well congratulations, looks like you're getting it.

The problem with this news is that everything depends on prize money and points distribution. It's not good for the Korean scene if there are just three tournaments with equal prize money as the wcs am charity-for-polt tournament, but if there are like six tournaments with more money with better distribution then it's great.

Absolutely. Korea needs to be worthwhile, with rewards that comport with the relative difficulty.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
September 05 2014 15:33 GMT
#743
On September 06 2014 00:21 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 23:35 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On September 05 2014 23:29 Torte de Lini wrote:
I offer up my apartment for any Koreans who want to live and train here hoho

You racist! How about me? Can I live with you?


We can get married if you want a Swiss citizenship (:

No I just wanted to live with you. You pay all foods and rent and I play SC2. That's very good deal.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
September 05 2014 15:34 GMT
#744
On September 06 2014 00:32 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 00:15 Grumbels wrote:
On September 05 2014 23:49 Squat wrote:
On September 05 2014 23:27 Grumbels wrote:
I only care about the Korean scene, I just want a stacked gsl/proleague with all the best players.

Well congratulations, looks like you're getting it.

The problem with this news is that everything depends on prize money and points distribution. It's not good for the Korean scene if there are just three tournaments with equal prize money as the wcs am charity-for-polt tournament, but if there are like six tournaments with more money with better distribution then it's great.

Absolutely. Korea needs to be worthwhile, with rewards that comport with the relative difficulty.


Note that the GSL has a significantly higher prize pool (which they decide to dump onto the first place) and that the prize pool of Proleague is also huge.
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
September 05 2014 15:36 GMT
#745
On September 06 2014 00:26 Heat_023 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 00:20 FuRRie wrote:
Great, more random foreigners crappy games...

I'm curious to know what league the author of a comment like this is in, if I may ask?


Why does it matter? 99% of people that watch tournaments will not be a progamer anyway. I would like blizzard to think hard about this one and understand the risks that are on the line
bypLy
Profile Joined June 2013
757 Posts
September 05 2014 15:36 GMT
#746
making wcs boring....

so sad this happend
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
September 05 2014 15:38 GMT
#747
There really needs to be a WCS Korea region that is completely separate from GSL, imo. Korea needs another high level tournament, and those that can do well in Korea should be rewarded for the higher level of challenge it takes to compete =/
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-05 15:43:34
September 05 2014 15:42 GMT
#748
On September 06 2014 00:34 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 00:32 Squat wrote:
On September 06 2014 00:15 Grumbels wrote:
On September 05 2014 23:49 Squat wrote:
On September 05 2014 23:27 Grumbels wrote:
I only care about the Korean scene, I just want a stacked gsl/proleague with all the best players.

Well congratulations, looks like you're getting it.

The problem with this news is that everything depends on prize money and points distribution. It's not good for the Korean scene if there are just three tournaments with equal prize money as the wcs am charity-for-polt tournament, but if there are like six tournaments with more money with better distribution then it's great.

Absolutely. Korea needs to be worthwhile, with rewards that comport with the relative difficulty.


Note that the GSL has a significantly higher prize pool (which they decide to dump onto the first place) and that the prize pool of Proleague is also huge.

The top heavy nature of the prize money is definitely something that needs to be adressed. Top 8 in Korea is insanely hard, at least as hard as winning a medium-level foreigner tournament. Look at the players Bunny beat to win Gfinity, and now compare that with who DRG had to beat just to make Ro8. That needs to be recognised.

As a side note, for everyone talking about how WCS NA now a charity event for Polt, I'll be saving those posts for when he runs into Major again and gets sent packing without winning a map.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
BlackPride
Profile Joined July 2012
United States186 Posts
September 05 2014 15:45 GMT
#749
Awful idea.
I've never waited in line at the DMV [YVNG]
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 05 2014 15:46 GMT
#750
On September 06 2014 00:36 Xinzoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 00:26 Heat_023 wrote:
On September 06 2014 00:20 FuRRie wrote:
Great, more random foreigners crappy games...

I'm curious to know what league the author of a comment like this is in, if I may ask?


Why does it matter? 99% of people that watch tournaments will not be a progamer anyway. I would like blizzard to think hard about this one and understand the risks that are on the line

Eh, watching dota has proven to me that the highest level of play is not required for an exciting game. The same was always true for SC2, though May will deny it and say "Korea or bust"

Blizzard knows what is on the line too, have no boubt.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
September 05 2014 15:50 GMT
#751
This changes nothing btw
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 05 2014 15:55 GMT
#752
On September 06 2014 00:26 Heat_023 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 00:20 FuRRie wrote:
Great, more random foreigners crappy games...

I'm curious to know what league the author of a comment like this is in, if I may ask?


That's just a retarded question. Most fans who only watch the NBA aren't good enough at basketball to make the Filipino basketball league.
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
September 05 2014 15:56 GMT
#753
On September 05 2014 17:38 kimaphan wrote:
Hi TL.net!

As much as I would like to address all of your questions and concerns, the reality is we're still finalizing the details of WCS 2015 with our partners. We wanted to share the more important changes immediately so players can start planning for next year. More information on the residency rules and requirements will be communicated to the impacted players directly and will also be updated in our official handbook for 2015.

It's safe to say that the changes in progress will have an impact on the points distribution, which is currently being assessed. We will be sharing a comprehensive WCS 2015 announcement later this year. Please stay tuned!

Thank you for your continued support and feedback. We really appreciate the StarCraft II community <3

.kim

Holy!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14001 Posts
September 05 2014 15:57 GMT
#754
On September 05 2014 09:58 Fionn wrote:
The year is 2018.

Polt is a 52-time WCS America champion.

Please, also holy shit fionn posted in Starcraft for first time in over a year
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
September 05 2014 15:57 GMT
#755
Oh hey, I might actually watch Starcraft again now!
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
September 05 2014 16:00 GMT
#756
WIth this system blizzcon 2015 will be even more overrun by undeserving players than it already is. Maybe we can just skip all the way down the line and make WCS invite only to keep out all those pesky no-name foreigners spoiling the 'storylines'. Might even get idra to come out of retirement like that, Im sure that'll boost viewer numbers.
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
September 05 2014 16:07 GMT
#757
Currently the prize pool for WCS EU/NA is $131000. That is too much. Make it $110000 and use the extra $120000 to create more Kespa cups.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
September 05 2014 16:11 GMT
#758
i still dislike this

meh.
The Bomber boy
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
September 05 2014 16:13 GMT
#759
On September 05 2014 23:08 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 21:41 Uracil wrote:
Dont know what that means for NA, but i hope that not all Koreans who live currently in Eu have to leave. They brought a lot to the european scene and you could see gap between the top europeans and Koreans closing.

A lot of the Koreans in EU will get to stay considering a lot of the Koreans in EU are living there and have visas. Some NA Koreans are likely going to be able to get visas on top of those that already have them (viOLet/Polt) such as Bomber/Revival/ maybe JD/maybe HerO and Check/Leenock/San might be able to go through Taiwan we don't know

Shame he most likely is retiring
The Bomber boy
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 05 2014 16:16 GMT
#760
On September 06 2014 00:57 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 09:58 Fionn wrote:
The year is 2018.

Polt is a 52-time WCS America champion.

Please, also holy shit fionn posted in Starcraft for first time in over a year

I think he posted in a LR thread a few weeks ago
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