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WCS AM will continue to include LatAm, Oceania/SEA, CN, and TW/HK/Macau, you can all stop freaking out about it.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 05 2014 14:03 GMT
#721
Cool, so a ton of mid tier Koreans probably retire and a ton of mid tier foreigners probably active again.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
September 05 2014 14:07 GMT
#722
Twice WCS points for GSL please.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
September 05 2014 14:08 GMT
#723
On September 05 2014 21:41 Uracil wrote:
Dont know what that means for NA, but i hope that not all Koreans who live currently in Eu have to leave. They brought a lot to the european scene and you could see gap between the top europeans and Koreans closing.

A lot of the Koreans in EU will get to stay considering a lot of the Koreans in EU are living there and have visas. Some NA Koreans are likely going to be able to get visas on top of those that already have them (viOLet/Polt) such as Bomber/Revival/ maybe JD/maybe HerO and Check/Leenock/San might be able to go through Taiwan we don't know
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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
September 05 2014 14:18 GMT
#724
Should have been region locked in the first place.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
September 05 2014 14:27 GMT
#725
I only care about the Korean scene, I just want a stacked gsl/proleague with all the best players.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-05 14:27:37
September 05 2014 14:27 GMT
#726
On September 05 2014 23:00 REyeM wrote:
Like I said as Korean StarCraft fan this doesn't affect me much, but the fact that current Ro8 GSL players have to go through Code A or even qualifiers is abysmal.


soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 05 2014 14:29 GMT
#727
I offer up my apartment for any Koreans who want to live and train here hoho
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 05 2014 14:32 GMT
#728
On September 05 2014 23:29 Torte de Lini wrote:
I offer up my apartment for any Koreans who want to live and train here hoho

Dat passion. Day passion.
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
September 05 2014 14:35 GMT
#729
On September 05 2014 23:29 Torte de Lini wrote:
I offer up my apartment for any Koreans who want to live and train here hoho

You racist! How about me? Can I live with you?
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Heat_023
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada160 Posts
September 05 2014 14:38 GMT
#730
Still, 90% of people saying "koreans or I'm out" don't have the game knowledge to appreciate half of what the foreigners put into their game. BUT, they've heard these top foreigners talk about the skill differential with the koreans, and that obviously makes NA and EU starcraft not even worth watching, right ?
twitch.tv/heat023
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
938 Posts
September 05 2014 14:39 GMT
#731
On September 05 2014 17:43 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 17:34 Swisslink wrote:
On September 05 2014 17:32 sharkie wrote:
On September 05 2014 17:25 Vindicare605 wrote:
On September 05 2014 17:24 sharkie wrote:
This is the best possible solution.

Now if prize money gets adapted to this change its literally perfect.
Why is there so much discussion about it going on?


Because clearly your conclusion is not agreed upon by everyone.


But why?
Getting a work visa is not that hard and isn't it obvious that players that play their qualifiers in Korea and then only fly to NA/EU for the Ro16+ is a stupid system?


Well, It'd be even more stupid to basically kill the Korean scene by forcing ALL the Koreans to play in Korea. During Proleague most Koreans won't go abroad too often, only 32 players will be in Code S most likely, 3 Code S per season... I don't think it's a fair format.
Koreans will have a harder time qualifying for Code A than players in WCS NA will have to win the premier league.

"Kill the Korean scene by forcing ALL koreans to play in korea"?

You obviously haven't even read the post.

1) Koreans can play whereever they want as long as they reside there. Thats the whole point of "regional" tournaments.
2) So we are "killing" the korean scene by foring them to abide the rules that all other players from other regions have to follow? Like others have pointed out earlier in this thread GSL forces you to stay in korea for the whole tournament if you want to compete in it. Effectively "forcing" foreigners to play in their countries, sad for the koreans that they can't just take a plane to AM and steal all that regions price money in two weeks and then just fly home anymore.

Its a very fair format and it is the very point behind actually having a regional system, AM has money invested in it. Why should korea just steal it away, let them play in their region, not AMs fault that korea doesn't invest in their ówn scene.


>Steal..........................................................








They played and won a fair fight if the NA players are complete garbage to lose for them is their fault.
:3
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
September 05 2014 14:45 GMT
#732
My first reaction was, "Yay, we'll finally get to see Taeja in GSL again and all the haters will have to shut up".

Then I realized he'd probably be retired by then. Now I'm sad.

I guess time will tell whether this is a good change or not. People have been asking for this ever since the WCS system began. One one hand, foreigners will get more exposure, and have more chances to prove themselves in their respective regions. On the other hand, there's no denying foreigners have become a lot more competitive over the last year due to getting to practice against migrant Koreans, and this change might set them back in that regard.
zelderan
Profile Joined May 2013
United States163 Posts
September 05 2014 14:49 GMT
#733
So excited for this. Hopefully this revitalizes the NA scene.
"Pumpkin mut-muts!" ~ Tasteless
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
September 05 2014 14:49 GMT
#734
On September 05 2014 23:27 Grumbels wrote:
I only care about the Korean scene, I just want a stacked gsl/proleague with all the best players.

Well congratulations, looks like you're getting it.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Nebulem
Profile Joined May 2014
71 Posts
September 05 2014 14:54 GMT
#735
Massive wave of retirements incoming.
t.(-.-)z
Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
938 Posts
September 05 2014 15:00 GMT
#736
On September 05 2014 18:30 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
I will watch NA and EU WCS I think its exciting anyway, even if isn't the "cream of the crop". I also think that maybe it isn't the most important thing that every region is equal in skill at any given moment, that is rarely the case in sports.


So you basically don't care that foreigners are bad. Which makes you a minority? Foreigners themselves say they want to play better, to play on par with Koreans. Koreigners helped with just that.

This is just terrible from Blizzard, as usual.


They are doing their best to the game not fun at all even to watch...

Dude they are really hardworkers.

On September 05 2014 23:38 Heat_023 wrote:
Still, 90% of people saying "koreans or I'm out" don't have the game knowledge to appreciate half of what the foreigners put into their game.


Well they lost so doesn't matter.
:3
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
September 05 2014 15:15 GMT
#737
On September 05 2014 23:49 Squat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 23:27 Grumbels wrote:
I only care about the Korean scene, I just want a stacked gsl/proleague with all the best players.

Well congratulations, looks like you're getting it.

The problem with this news is that everything depends on prize money and points distribution. It's not good for the Korean scene if there are just three tournaments with equal prize money as the wcs am charity-for-polt tournament, but if there are like six tournaments with more money with better distribution then it's great.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
FuRRie
Profile Joined February 2009
Belgium815 Posts
September 05 2014 15:20 GMT
#738
Great, more random foreigners crappy games...
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 05 2014 15:21 GMT
#739
On September 05 2014 23:35 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 23:29 Torte de Lini wrote:
I offer up my apartment for any Koreans who want to live and train here hoho

You racist! How about me? Can I live with you?


We can get married if you want a Swiss citizenship (:
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Heat_023
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada160 Posts
September 05 2014 15:26 GMT
#740
On September 06 2014 00:20 FuRRie wrote:
Great, more random foreigners crappy games...

I'm curious to know what league the author of a comment like this is in, if I may ask?
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