On August 26 2014 16:14 Lunareste wrote: This is so fucking ridiculously hype.
Now THIS r016 is actually Blizzcon worthy.
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9/16 players are the same as the current WCS top 16, Pigbaby is 17th.
With the exception of Rain (and he's just 1 good performance away from qualifying) and maybe Flash I really don't see that many players here who are better players for Blizzcon than Life, Taeja, Polt, Hyun, hell, even Snute has proven that he can go toe to toe with players of code S caliber on a good day ...
Finally somebody says it.
Is this lineup better than the top 16 for Blizzcon? Yes, but not by much at all.
eh, when I look at the WCS standings and see 7 players that are barely even in the top 50 worldwide, there's a problem. Just my opinion, of course.
I'd love for you to name those 7 as I've just pointed out the huge overlap with this tournament you think is so off the charts. Are you really arguing that Life, Taeja, Jaedong, ... aren't top 50? That's ... an interesting opinion.
Well idk about 7, ( or top 50 either) but I highly doubt that Stadust, MC, jjakji, or even Jaedong (as he's been playing lately) are as good as, say, Rain (ranked 22), Maru (26), TRUE (35), Parting (36) or Soulkey (50)
On August 26 2014 16:14 Lunareste wrote: This is so fucking ridiculously hype.
Now THIS r016 is actually Blizzcon worthy.
...
9/16 players are the same as the current WCS top 16, Pigbaby is 17th.
With the exception of Rain (and he's just 1 good performance away from qualifying) and maybe Flash I really don't see that many players here who are better players for Blizzcon than Life, Taeja, Polt, Hyun, hell, even Snute has proven that he can go toe to toe with players of code S caliber on a good day ...
Finally somebody says it.
Is this lineup better than the top 16 for Blizzcon? Yes, but not by much at all.
I mean, I'm pretty sure Sorry has yet to even play a broadcasted match ffs. I wouldn't doubt Snute being of a comparable level to him, but we'll have to wait and see how he does to be sure.
Super has his moments but he's not that amazing. Reality is doing well lately but I'm still not totally sold on him. Taeja and Polt are definitely better. Rogue/ByuL have great potential but currently I'd say they're at best equal to Life and not significantly better than Jaedong nor Hyun (both of which can play at an incredibly high level when they're in the zone).
If you really think that Snute is as good as Sorry, then I am afraid you are delusional. Also Polt is not better then Reality I don't think (blah blah blah, results in foreign tournaments, blah blah blah - spare me pls).
EDIT: Or you just didn't see Sorry play in the RedBull qualifiers, that's totally understandable then - but you'll be in for a surprise.
Sorry didn't play RB qualifiers, so it is likely, that FMW didn't see him there. Also, the only players, he defeated this year offline, are Zoun, Bulldozer and Billowy, while Snute list includes TRUE, Stork, sOs and herO (twice), if you only look at the last two months. He had a good run in the IEM qualifier, but he eventually ended up not qualifying for the tourney, where Snute was the closest to eliminate the eventual champion (arguably tied with MC). And his kespa cup qualifier run, while still a good run, featured no players of the caliber, of the guys, Snute defeated recently.
To cut it short, I don't think, Sorry is as good as Snute. For that he would have to defeat a Code S player offline and he only did that once in his entire career (Symbol in Code A WCS season 3 2013).
On August 26 2014 15:50 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I'm not sure how much I like the fact that there is a protoss in every single starting match.
it's either that or more PvP, choose your poison
PvP isn't that bad. I don't really think it makes a difference, if the protoss players are better than the terrans/zergs then we're going to see more PvP anyway.
On August 26 2014 16:14 Lunareste wrote: This is so fucking ridiculously hype.
Now THIS r016 is actually Blizzcon worthy.
...
9/16 players are the same as the current WCS top 16, Pigbaby is 17th.
With the exception of Rain (and he's just 1 good performance away from qualifying) and maybe Flash I really don't see that many players here who are better players for Blizzcon than Life, Taeja, Polt, Hyun, hell, even Snute has proven that he can go toe to toe with players of code S caliber on a good day ...
Finally somebody says it.
Is this lineup better than the top 16 for Blizzcon? Yes, but not by much at all.
I mean, I'm pretty sure Sorry has yet to even play a broadcasted match ffs. I wouldn't doubt Snute being of a comparable level to him, but we'll have to wait and see how he does to be sure.
Super has his moments but he's not that amazing. Reality is doing well lately but I'm still not totally sold on him. Taeja and Polt are definitely better. Rogue/ByuL have great potential but currently I'd say they're at best equal to Life and not significantly better than Jaedong nor Hyun (both of which can play at an incredibly high level when they're in the zone).
If you really think that Snute is as good as Sorry, then I am afraid you are delusional. Also Polt is not better then Reality I don't think (blah blah blah, results in foreign tournaments, blah blah blah - spare me pls).
EDIT: Or you just didn't see Sorry play in the RedBull qualifiers, that's totally understandable then - but you'll be in for a surprise.
Sorry didn't play RB qualifiers, so it is likely, that FMW didn't see him there. Also, the only players, he defeated this year offline, are Zoun, Bulldozer and Billowy, while Snute list includes TRUE, Stork, sOs and herO (twice), if you only look at the last two months. He had a good run in the IEM qualifier, but he eventually ended up not qualifying for the tourney, where Snute was the closest to eliminate the eventual champion (arguably tied with MC). And his kespa cup qualifier run, while still a good run, featured no players of the caliber, of the guys, Snute defeated recently.
To cut it short, I don't think, Sorry is as good as Snute. For that he would have to defeat a Code S player offline and he only did that once in his entire career (Symbol in Code A WCS season 3 2013).
I am afraid to see 6 protoss in RO8, hate PvP matchup ;(
Game 1 : Classic vs Rogue Game 2 : San vs ByuL Game 3 : Pigbaby vs Zest Game 4 : sOs vs Reality Game 5 : StarDust vs Flash Game 6 : soO vs Super Game 7 : herO vs Sorry Game 8 : Bomber vs Rain
On August 26 2014 16:14 Lunareste wrote: This is so fucking ridiculously hype.
Now THIS r016 is actually Blizzcon worthy.
...
9/16 players are the same as the current WCS top 16, Pigbaby is 17th.
With the exception of Rain (and he's just 1 good performance away from qualifying) and maybe Flash I really don't see that many players here who are better players for Blizzcon than Life, Taeja, Polt, Hyun, hell, even Snute has proven that he can go toe to toe with players of code S caliber on a good day ...
Finally somebody says it.
Is this lineup better than the top 16 for Blizzcon? Yes, but not by much at all.
eh, when I look at the WCS standings and see 7 players that are barely even in the top 50 worldwide, there's a problem. Just my opinion, of course.
I'd love for you to name those 7 as I've just pointed out the huge overlap with this tournament you think is so off the charts. Are you really arguing that Life, Taeja, Jaedong, ... aren't top 50? That's ... an interesting opinion.
Well idk about 7, ( or top 50 either) but I highly doubt that Stadust, MC, jjakji, or even Jaedong (as he's been playing lately) are as good as, say, Rain (ranked 22), Maru (26), TRUE (35), Parting (36) or Soulkey (50)
That isn't my point. With the exception of Rain (who I think is probably the best player in the world and definitely should be at Blizzcon) none of those are in the Kespa Cup either. But somehow Kespa Cup is awesomely stacked and Blizzcon is a joke ...
Fwiw, I wouldn't underestimate Stardust; MC even though past his prime, has proven that he's still dangerous even to players like Flash and jjakji, sadly, has fallen off a lot again since the end of last year/start of this year, when he was back in Code S shape. Jaedong is Jaedong, he'll bounce back up.
Anyway, this whole WCS points problem is still Korea's (or KeSPA's I should say) problem. It's hardly the rest of the worlds fault that they don't organize any tournaments in their home scene.
On August 26 2014 16:14 Lunareste wrote: This is so fucking ridiculously hype.
Now THIS r016 is actually Blizzcon worthy.
...
9/16 players are the same as the current WCS top 16, Pigbaby is 17th.
With the exception of Rain (and he's just 1 good performance away from qualifying) and maybe Flash I really don't see that many players here who are better players for Blizzcon than Life, Taeja, Polt, Hyun, hell, even Snute has proven that he can go toe to toe with players of code S caliber on a good day ...
Finally somebody says it.
Is this lineup better than the top 16 for Blizzcon? Yes, but not by much at all.
eh, when I look at the WCS standings and see 7 players that are barely even in the top 50 worldwide, there's a problem. Just my opinion, of course.
I'd love for you to name those 7 as I've just pointed out the huge overlap with this tournament you think is so off the charts. Are you really arguing that Life, Taeja, Jaedong, ... aren't top 50? That's ... an interesting opinion.
Well idk about 7, ( or top 50 either) but I highly doubt that Stadust, MC, jjakji, or even Jaedong (as he's been playing lately) are as good as, say, Rain (ranked 22), Maru (26), TRUE (35), Parting (36) or Soulkey (50)
That isn't my point. With the exception of Rain (who I think is probably the best player in the world and definitely should be at Blizzcon) none of those are in the Kespa Cup either. But somehow Kespa Cup is awesomely stacked and Blizzcon is a joke ...
Fwiw, I wouldn't underestimate Stardust; MC even though past his prime, has proven that he's still dangerous even to players like Flash and jjakji, sadly, has fallen off a lot again since the end of last year/start of this year, when he was back in Code S shape. Jaedong is Jaedong, he'll bounce back up.
Anyway, this whole WCS points problem is still Korea's (or KeSPA's I should say) problem. It's hardly the rest of the worlds fault that they don't organize any tournaments in their home scene.
technically they do. It's the fact that there are a lot more organizers out there who want a little piece of the pie and host crap around the world with their own formats. It is what it is and they're umbrellas.
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