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Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
August 26 2014 16:05 GMT
#101
9 Protoss, 4 Terran and 3 Zerg. More toss than there are the others combined. As a Zerg, I'm just not pumped for this event. Pretty gorgeous line-up of Toss, though.
twitter.com/lumigaming - DongRaeGu is the One True Dong - /r/onetruedong
Varroth
Profile Joined April 2014
Sweden471 Posts
August 26 2014 16:45 GMT
#102
On August 26 2014 23:54 nimdil wrote:
Was the draw random or fixed because it wasn't very probable to have only one PvP with 9/16 protosses.

Edit: Also did Maru decline to play or is he somehow not top1 Proleague player?


He is but apparently they used whoever was top2 in proleague at the end of the 4th stage or whatever it is its called for proleague
Top10 favorite players: 1. Jaedong 2. Naniwa 3. Maru 4. ThorZaIN 5. Taeja 6. HerO 7. MC 8. Hyun 9. Soulkey 10. herO
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-26 17:20:36
August 26 2014 17:19 GMT
#103
On August 27 2014 01:45 Varroth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 23:54 nimdil wrote:
Was the draw random or fixed because it wasn't very probable to have only one PvP with 9/16 protosses.

Edit: Also did Maru decline to play or is he somehow not top1 Proleague player?


He is but apparently they used whoever was top2 in proleague at the end of the 4th stage or whatever it is its called for proleague

I thought that they counted all wins in the regular season but ignored play-off wins. Maru only had the most if you counted play-offs. It makes sense to ignore play-offs because all-kill format makes things not very fair, as well as not all teams even being able to play in the play-offs.
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
August 26 2014 17:41 GMT
#104
On August 26 2014 17:06 lichter wrote:
Pigbaby is a tricky bastard I wouldn't be surprised if he beats Zest (or loses 0-3)


I lol'd hard at your title.
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
August 26 2014 17:43 GMT
#105
On August 27 2014 02:19 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 01:45 Varroth wrote:
On August 26 2014 23:54 nimdil wrote:
Was the draw random or fixed because it wasn't very probable to have only one PvP with 9/16 protosses.

Edit: Also did Maru decline to play or is he somehow not top1 Proleague player?


He is but apparently they used whoever was top2 in proleague at the end of the 4th stage or whatever it is its called for proleague

I thought that they counted all wins in the regular season but ignored play-off wins. Maru only had the most if you counted play-offs. It makes sense to ignore play-offs because all-kill format makes things not very fair, as well as not all teams even being able to play in the play-offs.

Yeah, Kespa uses only regular season without playoffs (round playoffs or the finals, doesnt matter) so it is fair to everyone. Same is being used for things like season MVP etc.

Also, predictions:

Game 1 : (P)Classic < (Z)Rogue
Game 2 : (P)San > (Z)ByuL
Game 3 : (P)Pigbaby < (P)Zest
Game 4 : (P)sOs < (T)Reality
Game 5 : (P)StarDust < (T)Flash
Game 6 : (Z)soO > (P)Super
Game 7 : (P)herO[jOin] > (T)Sorry
Game 8 : (T)Bomber < (P)Rain
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
swag_bro
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
Japan782 Posts
August 26 2014 17:49 GMT
#106
I don't get why Maru isn't here. Didn't he have most PL wins?
They hate us 'cause they ain't us.
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
August 26 2014 17:51 GMT
#107
On August 27 2014 02:49 swag_bro wrote:
I don't get why Maru isn't here. Didn't he have most PL wins?

no. that was herO and sOs.
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4137 Posts
August 26 2014 18:09 GMT
#108
On August 27 2014 02:49 swag_bro wrote:
I don't get why Maru isn't here. Didn't he have most PL wins?

I dont know about now but at that weekend where where Pigbaby, Classic and StarDust won (WCS S2), Hero and sos had the most wins at PL.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
August 26 2014 18:15 GMT
#109
On August 26 2014 16:14 Lunareste wrote:
This is so fucking ridiculously hype.

Now THIS r016 is actually Blizzcon worthy.


...

9/16 players are the same as the current WCS top 16, Pigbaby is 17th.

With the exception of Rain (and he's just 1 good performance away from qualifying) and maybe Flash I really don't see that many players here who are better players for Blizzcon than Life, Taeja, Polt, Hyun, hell, even Snute has proven that he can go toe to toe with players of code S caliber on a good day ...
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-26 18:39:46
August 26 2014 18:24 GMT
#110
On August 27 2014 03:15 Thax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 16:14 Lunareste wrote:
This is so fucking ridiculously hype.

Now THIS r016 is actually Blizzcon worthy.


...

9/16 players are the same as the current WCS top 16, Pigbaby is 17th.

With the exception of Rain (and he's just 1 good performance away from qualifying) and maybe Flash I really don't see that many players here who are better players for Blizzcon than Life, Taeja, Polt, Hyun, hell, even Snute has proven that he can go toe to toe with players of code S caliber on a good day ...


Finally somebody says it.

Is this lineup better than the top 16 for Blizzcon? Yes, but not by much at all.

I mean, I'm pretty sure (T)Sorry has yet to even play a broadcasted match ffs. I wouldn't doubt Snute being of a comparable level to him, but we'll have to wait and see how he does to be sure.

Super has his moments but he's not that amazing. Reality is doing well lately but I'm still not totally sold on him. Taeja and Polt are definitely better. Rogue/ByuL have great potential but currently I'd say they're at best equal to Life and not significantly better than Jaedong nor Hyun (both of which can play at an incredibly high level when they're in the zone).
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
August 26 2014 18:34 GMT
#111
On August 26 2014 23:32 ChapatiyaqPTSM wrote:
Don't hate on PvP ;; There are still good chances that the Terran and Zerg players move on anyway.

The Taiwan Open had a lot of ZvZ matches, and despite people saying "So many Zs", I thought it was an excellent tournament.


Not hating on PvP. I'd just prefer more even distribution of race in the later stages of the tournament. You're right, though. Good chance of T's and Z's moving on.
T P Z sagi
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
August 26 2014 18:39 GMT
#112
On August 27 2014 03:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 03:15 Thax wrote:
On August 26 2014 16:14 Lunareste wrote:
This is so fucking ridiculously hype.

Now THIS r016 is actually Blizzcon worthy.


...

9/16 players are the same as the current WCS top 16, Pigbaby is 17th.

With the exception of Rain (and he's just 1 good performance away from qualifying) and maybe Flash I really don't see that many players here who are better players for Blizzcon than Life, Taeja, Polt, Hyun, hell, even Snute has proven that he can go toe to toe with players of code S caliber on a good day ...


Finally somebody says it.

Is this lineup better than the top 16 for Blizzcon? Yes, but not by much at all.


eh, when I look at the WCS standings and see 7 players that are barely even in the top 50 worldwide, there's a problem. Just my opinion, of course.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
August 26 2014 18:45 GMT
#113
On August 26 2014 20:43 royalroadweed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 14:52 imrusty269 wrote:
Bomber vs Rain is so old school

Rain is pretty new school. Bomber is definitely old school though been playing since 2010 and still plays like its 2011.


Bomber vs Rain already happened in WoL, that's pretty old school.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
meshfusion
Profile Joined June 2014
Russian Federation232 Posts
August 26 2014 19:43 GMT
#114
On August 26 2014 20:41 SatedSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 20:06 meshfusion wrote:
I foresee a PvPvPvPvPvPvPvPvP tournament right away

It's gonna be boring as hell unless someone like Flash is able to reach the final and at least give us some TvPs

And then it will still be boring as hell because we'll just see repeated SCV pulls.

I'd rather watch PvP.


and who's fault is if T has to pull SCV or it's impossible to win after the 15 min mark vs P ?
T players ? TvP is a joke unfortunately but I'd still watch it over 50 PvPs
Packawana
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1081 Posts
August 26 2014 20:13 GMT
#115
Pigbaby will come and dominate all. Just watch.
"May all your dreaming fill the empty sky."
Pino
Profile Joined June 2013
1032 Posts
August 26 2014 20:32 GMT
#116
On August 27 2014 04:43 meshfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2014 20:41 SatedSC2 wrote:
On August 26 2014 20:06 meshfusion wrote:
I foresee a PvPvPvPvPvPvPvPvP tournament right away

It's gonna be boring as hell unless someone like Flash is able to reach the final and at least give us some TvPs

And then it will still be boring as hell because we'll just see repeated SCV pulls.

I'd rather watch PvP.


and who's fault is if T has to pull SCV or it's impossible to win after the 15 min mark vs P ?
T players ? TvP is a joke unfortunately but I'd still watch it over 50 PvPs


Terran do not scv pull because it's the only way to win the game, they scv pull because it's a super effective way to win the game. Late game terran army is good if your control is good
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-26 21:06:42
August 26 2014 20:55 GMT
#117
On August 27 2014 03:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 03:15 Thax wrote:
On August 26 2014 16:14 Lunareste wrote:
This is so fucking ridiculously hype.

Now THIS r016 is actually Blizzcon worthy.


...

9/16 players are the same as the current WCS top 16, Pigbaby is 17th.

With the exception of Rain (and he's just 1 good performance away from qualifying) and maybe Flash I really don't see that many players here who are better players for Blizzcon than Life, Taeja, Polt, Hyun, hell, even Snute has proven that he can go toe to toe with players of code S caliber on a good day ...


Finally somebody says it.

Is this lineup better than the top 16 for Blizzcon? Yes, but not by much at all.

I mean, I'm pretty sure (T)Sorry has yet to even play a broadcasted match ffs. I wouldn't doubt Snute being of a comparable level to him, but we'll have to wait and see how he does to be sure.

Super has his moments but he's not that amazing. Reality is doing well lately but I'm still not totally sold on him. Taeja and Polt are definitely better. Rogue/ByuL have great potential but currently I'd say they're at best equal to Life and not significantly better than Jaedong nor Hyun (both of which can play at an incredibly high level when they're in the zone).

If you really think that Snute is as good as Sorry, then I am afraid you are delusional. Also Polt is not better then Reality I don't think (blah blah blah, results in foreign tournaments, blah blah blah - spare me pls).

EDIT: Or you just didn't see Sorry play in the RedBull qualifiers, that's totally understandable then - but you'll be in for a surprise.
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
August 26 2014 21:00 GMT
#118
On August 27 2014 05:55 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 03:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:15 Thax wrote:
On August 26 2014 16:14 Lunareste wrote:
This is so fucking ridiculously hype.

Now THIS r016 is actually Blizzcon worthy.


...

9/16 players are the same as the current WCS top 16, Pigbaby is 17th.

With the exception of Rain (and he's just 1 good performance away from qualifying) and maybe Flash I really don't see that many players here who are better players for Blizzcon than Life, Taeja, Polt, Hyun, hell, even Snute has proven that he can go toe to toe with players of code S caliber on a good day ...


Finally somebody says it.

Is this lineup better than the top 16 for Blizzcon? Yes, but not by much at all.

I mean, I'm pretty sure (T)Sorry has yet to even play a broadcasted match ffs. I wouldn't doubt Snute being of a comparable level to him, but we'll have to wait and see how he does to be sure.

Super has his moments but he's not that amazing. Reality is doing well lately but I'm still not totally sold on him. Taeja and Polt are definitely better. Rogue/ByuL have great potential but currently I'd say they're at best equal to Life and not significantly better than Jaedong nor Hyun (both of which can play at an incredibly high level when they're in the zone).

If you really think that Snute is as good as Sorry, then I am afraid you are delusional. Also Polt is not better then Reality I don't think (blah blah blah, results in foreign tournaments, blah blah blah - spare me pls).


This seasons GSL Ro16 is as close as it gets, minus couple of players.
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
imrusty269
Profile Joined January 2014
United States1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-26 21:16:22
August 26 2014 21:13 GMT
#119
On August 27 2014 05:55 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 03:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:15 Thax wrote:
On August 26 2014 16:14 Lunareste wrote:
This is so fucking ridiculously hype.

Now THIS r016 is actually Blizzcon worthy.


...

9/16 players are the same as the current WCS top 16, Pigbaby is 17th.

With the exception of Rain (and he's just 1 good performance away from qualifying) and maybe Flash I really don't see that many players here who are better players for Blizzcon than Life, Taeja, Polt, Hyun, hell, even Snute has proven that he can go toe to toe with players of code S caliber on a good day ...


Finally somebody says it.

Is this lineup better than the top 16 for Blizzcon? Yes, but not by much at all.

I mean, I'm pretty sure (T)Sorry has yet to even play a broadcasted match ffs. I wouldn't doubt Snute being of a comparable level to him, but we'll have to wait and see how he does to be sure.

Super has his moments but he's not that amazing. Reality is doing well lately but I'm still not totally sold on him. Taeja and Polt are definitely better. Rogue/ByuL have great potential but currently I'd say they're at best equal to Life and not significantly better than Jaedong nor Hyun (both of which can play at an incredibly high level when they're in the zone).

If you really think that Snute is as good as Sorry, then I am afraid you are delusional. Also Polt is not better then Reality I don't think (blah blah blah, results in foreign tournaments, blah blah blah - spare me pls).


Polt is definitely better than Reality (and many other terrans) when the metagame/balance doesn't favor the race. But now that terrans are doing well, whoever is more mechanical is probably better overall.
Bbyong | MMA | Polt | Dream | Maru | Mvp
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 26 2014 21:25 GMT
#120
On August 27 2014 05:55 Ammanas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2014 03:24 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On August 27 2014 03:15 Thax wrote:
On August 26 2014 16:14 Lunareste wrote:
This is so fucking ridiculously hype.

Now THIS r016 is actually Blizzcon worthy.


...

9/16 players are the same as the current WCS top 16, Pigbaby is 17th.

With the exception of Rain (and he's just 1 good performance away from qualifying) and maybe Flash I really don't see that many players here who are better players for Blizzcon than Life, Taeja, Polt, Hyun, hell, even Snute has proven that he can go toe to toe with players of code S caliber on a good day ...


Finally somebody says it.

Is this lineup better than the top 16 for Blizzcon? Yes, but not by much at all.

I mean, I'm pretty sure (T)Sorry has yet to even play a broadcasted match ffs. I wouldn't doubt Snute being of a comparable level to him, but we'll have to wait and see how he does to be sure.

Super has his moments but he's not that amazing. Reality is doing well lately but I'm still not totally sold on him. Taeja and Polt are definitely better. Rogue/ByuL have great potential but currently I'd say they're at best equal to Life and not significantly better than Jaedong nor Hyun (both of which can play at an incredibly high level when they're in the zone).

If you really think that Snute is as good as Sorry, then I am afraid you are delusional. Also Polt is not better then Reality I don't think (blah blah blah, results in foreign tournaments, blah blah blah - spare me pls).

EDIT: Or you just didn't see Sorry play in the RedBull qualifiers, that's totally understandable then - but you'll be in for a surprise.


Like I said I wasn't sure if Sorry even played any broadcasted matches. I'm assuming you mean the IEM qualifiers, as I don't see anything about Red bull on his aligulac page (less you've confused him with Journey who's very similar). Still, I'd give the foreign tournament performances of Snute more weight than a few good online qualifier showings.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
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