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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 20:14:12
August 14 2014 20:09 GMT
#21
Well we've all had our complaints about some of Browders units and decisions, so I'm curious to see if the direction will change a little in LotV.

And face it, it's not like they have a lot of other RTS-companies to pick new employees from. (though I'd accept Icefrog as lead developer lol)
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
August 14 2014 20:13 GMT
#22
This could be good. Can't wait to see how he runs things.
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
Genome852
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States979 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 20:18:10
August 14 2014 20:14 GMT
#23
I am a big fan of C&C from generals and earlier, but Tim seems to only have been involved with generals 2 which was canceled. In other words... not much to base on.

SC2 would be better if everyone involved in development actually played the game. Job requirement: X ladder games per week on company time, LOL
johnbongham
Profile Joined April 2014
451 Posts
August 14 2014 20:15 GMT
#24
red alert is my favorite rts of all time
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 20:26:38
August 14 2014 20:22 GMT
#25
Seems like other than Generals 2 (aka C&C F2P), Tim Morten was a founder/owner of Savage Entertainment (source), which was mostly known for Star Wars: Battlefront 2. edit: oops, it's the PSP port

I doubt he'll get very deep into the design of SC2, but he may be calling the shots on what other features, such as Battle.net additions, may be implemented. I liked some of the concepts in C&C F2P, but I think it was pushed into the semi-closed Alpha too quickly, which seems typical of EA's practices.
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Scandral
Profile Joined February 2013
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 20:24:56
August 14 2014 20:24 GMT
#26
On August 15 2014 05:22 eviltomahawk wrote:
Seems like other than Generals 2 (aka C&C F2P), Tim Morten was a founder/owner of Savage Entertainment (source), which was mostly known for Star Wars: Battlefront 2.


No, that company was in charge of porting games
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
August 14 2014 20:26 GMT
#27
On August 15 2014 05:24 Scandral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 05:22 eviltomahawk wrote:
Seems like other than Generals 2 (aka C&C F2P), Tim Morten was a founder/owner of Savage Entertainment (source), which was mostly known for Star Wars: Battlefront 2.


No, that company was in charge of porting games

Oh yes, you're right. I forgot to read the fine print about it being a PSP port instead of the original.
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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 20:50:29
August 14 2014 20:36 GMT
#28
On August 15 2014 04:45 Faust852 wrote:
Is it a good news ? I heard last C&Cs were garbage... Was he the same developer?
Anyway, If he can fix the broken UI and Hub, I'd be very happy !


All of the complaints in the forum was about how this game was too similar too Starcraft 2. The core C&C fan group wanted to have tanks that took like 5 seconds to turn around in order to create more "tactics".

That said, the micro still looked terrible in C&C f2p, so I don't have high expectations.
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
August 14 2014 20:41 GMT
#29
On August 15 2014 05:36 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 04:45 Faust852 wrote:
Is it a good news ? I heard last C&Cs were garbage... Was he the same developer?
Anyway, If he can fix the broken UI and Hub, I'd be very happy !


All of the complaints in the forum was about how this game was too similar too Starcraft 2. The core C&C fan group wanted to have tanks that took like 5 seconds to turn around in order to create more "tactics".

That said, the micro still looked terrible in C&C 4, so I don't have high expectations.

C&C4 was fail and Tim Morten does not correlates with C&C4 at all. He was a developer of cancelled C&C F2P (before it was named Generals 2). That game was playable for some time as alpha.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
August 14 2014 20:49 GMT
#30
SC2 is basically C&C5 so I'm not even surprised that they would have an actual C&C dev come on to make LotV C&C6
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 20:49:52
August 14 2014 20:49 GMT
#31
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
August 14 2014 20:50 GMT
#32
On August 15 2014 05:41 Existor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2014 05:36 Hider wrote:
On August 15 2014 04:45 Faust852 wrote:
Is it a good news ? I heard last C&Cs were garbage... Was he the same developer?
Anyway, If he can fix the broken UI and Hub, I'd be very happy !


All of the complaints in the forum was about how this game was too similar too Starcraft 2. The core C&C fan group wanted to have tanks that took like 5 seconds to turn around in order to create more "tactics".

That said, the micro still looked terrible in C&C 4, so I don't have high expectations.

C&C4 was fail and Tim Morten does not correlates with C&C4 at all. He was a developer of cancelled C&C F2P (before it was named Generals 2). That game was playable for some time as alpha.


yeh i know just wrote wrong.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
August 14 2014 20:50 GMT
#33
Didn't Dustin Browder work on C&C generals too ?
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 14 2014 20:50 GMT
#34
Is this good or bad?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-14 20:51:01
August 14 2014 20:50 GMT
#35
My biggest hope is that with a new guy at the top of the team is that we can finally tackle some of the ongoing issues that the developers have not wanted to budge on.

I'm looking very specifically at you Protoss. Collosus, Warp Gate, and Forcefield have been 3 eye sores in the race's design and they were also some of Dustin Browder's personal favorite projects.

Hopefully some new blood at the top will actually be willing to address these.
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RoninColt
Profile Joined March 2013
United States18 Posts
August 14 2014 20:50 GMT
#36
So are we just going to see a bunch of canceled / unfinished projects now?
SurroundSound
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
106 Posts
August 14 2014 20:52 GMT
#37
Im happy they're bringing on new ideas. It seems like product leaders for SC2 have been unimaginative. It also seems like there's alot of really sick game developers on TL these days...
Its not John Hancock...Its Herby Hancock
Genome852
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States979 Posts
August 14 2014 21:05 GMT
#38
They could have snatched day9 from his current company that is making an rts. That would be a twist.
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
August 14 2014 21:12 GMT
#39
On August 15 2014 05:50 Godwrath wrote:
Didn't Dustin Browder work on C&C generals too ?


Atleast RA2.
England will fight to the last American
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
August 14 2014 21:13 GMT
#40
On August 15 2014 05:50 Vindicare605 wrote:
My biggest hope is that with a new guy at the top of the team is that we can finally tackle some of the ongoing issues that the developers have not wanted to budge on.

I'm looking very specifically at you Protoss. Collosus, Warp Gate, and Forcefield have been 3 eye sores in the race's design and they were also some of Dustin Browder's personal favorite projects.

Hopefully some new blood at the top will actually be willing to address these.


None of these are going away. I don't think anyone wants to completely and utterly overhaul Protoss at this point, nor do I think they should. We're already seeing cracks in the armor of Protoss dominance.
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