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On August 16 2014 19:08 Sapphire.lux wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2014 18:54 Faust852 wrote:
I feel like sc2 is close to perfect, the only true anoyings things are how laggy and buggy the hub is, and the hackers. For the rest I'm pretty happy. To have this kind of opinion is fine, but it's so fucking stupid to call other peoples posts and opinions as trolls or haters or whatever just because they don't think the game is all wonderful. Show nested quote +On August 16 2014 08:52 Tresher wrote:
Man TL turned into a massive trollfest. I asked why people say "Cant get any worse". Two people after me make a post: "Cant get any worse"...
With people being in super dick mode like this, this forum is slowly turning into Bnet forums. Do people really have this much fun annoying other users? Sometimes I hate the Internet. People don't criticize the game to annoy you, they don't even care about you. Some people think the game is close to perfect, others that it's in a poor state. Neither of them is trolling.
Hey, it's my second post ITT and my first was a question about the guy v_v I never called anyone a troll.
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Lets hope for the best, gl hf gg ♥
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On August 16 2014 19:19 Faust852 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2014 19:08 Sapphire.lux wrote:On August 16 2014 18:54 Faust852 wrote:
I feel like sc2 is close to perfect, the only true anoyings things are how laggy and buggy the hub is, and the hackers. For the rest I'm pretty happy. To have this kind of opinion is fine, but it's so fucking stupid to call other peoples posts and opinions as trolls or haters or whatever just because they don't think the game is all wonderful. On August 16 2014 08:52 Tresher wrote:
Man TL turned into a massive trollfest. I asked why people say "Cant get any worse". Two people after me make a post: "Cant get any worse"...
With people being in super dick mode like this, this forum is slowly turning into Bnet forums. Do people really have this much fun annoying other users? Sometimes I hate the Internet. People don't criticize the game to annoy you, they don't even care about you. Some people think the game is close to perfect, others that it's in a poor state. Neither of them is trolling. Hey, it's my second post ITT and my first was a question about the guy v_v I never called anyone a troll.
I know, i was referring to the second guy i quoted. I just used your post to show the contrast of perfect game vs it can't get any worse.
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So when can we expect some LotV updates?
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The game he was doing was shaping up to be the most "progamey" C&C ever made, so I'm not too worried about the direction he's going to take the game to.
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On August 16 2014 20:31 PVJ wrote:
So when can we expect some LotV updates?
Probably Blizzcon
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Based on the following assumption
2013
WoW - Warlords announced
Diablo - RoS Updates
Hearthstone - Naxxramas Info
Heroes - Announced
Starcraft - Nothing
2014
WoW - Warlords pre launch info
Diablo - Maybe expansion? more likey new patches info and console focus
Hearthstone - Maybe new solo adventure announcement
Heroes - Maybe release date and new heroes/maps
Starcraft - Since nothing last year one can assume LotV, If not I'd wonder if LotV is on hold til Heroes is done
For fun
Titan - fuck all~
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Oh wow. That's rather not good news.
I mean there must be a reason why C&C F2P wasn't even released, right?
What I don't understand is: Why don't they just take one of their own guys as Lead Designer? Blizzard has so many good people that know the franchise in and out. 
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On August 16 2014 22:27 ZodaSoda wrote:
Based on the following assumption
2013
WoW - Warlords announced
Diablo - RoS Updates
Hearthstone - Naxxramas Info
Heroes - Announced
Starcraft - Nothing
2014
WoW - Warlords pre launch info
Diablo - Maybe expansion? more likey new patches info and console focus
Hearthstone - Maybe new solo adventure announcement
Heroes - Maybe release date and new heroes/maps
Starcraft - Since nothing last year one can assume LotV, If not I'd wonder if LotV is on hold til Heroes is done
For fun
Titan - fuck all~
I guess they are focusing on Hearthstone now. It is the new Blizzard cash cow.
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I don't know anything about him but it is good to see resources being put onto the game after some were taken off for Hearthstone and Heroes.
Since the latest patch I have started to watch more games again (GSL sub again, Proleague, WCS, etc). I can even appreciate when P or Z win now because all of the bitterness caused by the T game being underpowered has dissipated. I hope the new hire helps to diversify opening options, especially T in the P matchup.
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Considering what previous C&C designer has done this isn't looking very promising.
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On August 16 2014 13:26 404AlphaSquad wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2014 11:23 Doodsmack wrote:On August 16 2014 09:25 404AlphaSquad wrote:On August 16 2014 08:50 Prog455 wrote:On August 16 2014 07:41 BisuDagger wrote:
SC2 can't get worse. This is good news. that is all dandy, but anyone who have played this game since release will agree, that SC2 in its current form is no where near as bad as it has been. I disagree sc2 was in a better state before hots. Hell I even liked beta more than the stage the game is in now. and I have played since WOL Beta. Please never say that BL/infestor was better than hots again lol. oh wow citing the worst out of the WOL era and comparing it to the general HOTS gameplay is stupid. Okay I do the same: never say sh vs sh is better than wol. see where this logic fails? There were tons of ways on how to fix the WOL problems without HOTS. The infestor nerf came with HOTS. That could have easily been done before or other approaches of redesign would have at least been possible in HOTS. But HOTS just kept the same problems of WOL and created new ones. To be fair, it fixed some. But overall it did hurt the game more than it did good. Show nested quote +On August 16 2014 09:50 Ben... wrote:On August 16 2014 09:25 404AlphaSquad wrote:On August 16 2014 08:50 Prog455 wrote:On August 16 2014 07:41 BisuDagger wrote:
SC2 can't get worse. This is good news. that is all dandy, but anyone who have played this game since release will agree, that SC2 in its current form is no where near as bad as it has been. I disagree sc2 was in a better state before hots. Hell I even liked beta more than the stage the game is in now. and I have played since WOL Beta. Indeed. I would put pre-Queen Patch Wings of Liberty up as the pinnacle of SC2 so far. Like say April 2012 Wings of Liberty. The matchups were all relatively balanced and at the same time, all of the matchups were at least somewhat interesting if not significantly more interesting than they currently are. TvZ was about as good as it could get, PvZ was interesting, PvT was rather good and quite entertaining, and the mirror matchups were either the same or better than they currently. Marine/tank or mech vs. bio TvT on the maps of the time was a ton of fun to watch. Agreed. pre queen range patch was the best time of the entire sc2 history. until Blizz decided to go full retard mode and patch something, where no players complained, an nobody expected. Then we saw the gameplay shift into the bl/infestor era. And instead of reverting their mistakes well you know....
When you said "SC2 was in a better state before HOTS" I naturally assumed you were referring to the time period immediately before HOTS, i.e. BL/infestor. BL/infestor lasted for a long time. The infestor nerf could have come before HOTS, but it didn't. Overall, HOTS is an improvement over the BL/infestor era.
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On August 16 2014 13:44 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2014 08:50 Prog455 wrote:On August 16 2014 07:41 BisuDagger wrote:
SC2 can't get worse. This is good news. Get a grip dude. I seem to remember you saying that you don't even play SC2, but rather BW. That is all dandy, but anyone who have played this game since release will agree, that SC2 in its current form is no where near as bad as it has been. As to whether this is a good or a bad thing, i have no idea, but my guess is that SC2 will experience a spike when LotV is released, but then continue to decline, just as it is happening now - and just how every other game has its time. Correction. I don't have time to play either game to be honest, but I do watch both SC1 and SC2 a lot. My post has nothing to do with a comparison to Brood War. So let's kill that thought right now. My point of view: Just because SC2 is nearing state of total balance does not mean I should be satisfied with the product as a spectator. I watch the majority of every GSL, most of Proleague, Dreamhacks, IEMs, MLGs, and WCS US and EU RO8 on games so I am entitled to have my own opinion on SC2. I think the game has tons of potential. I think there have also been a variety of amazing games such as jjajki widow mines eating mutas. That being said, the game as a spectator sport still has a lot to improve on imo. With top tier programmers and state of the art tools, there is no need for us to be satisfied with our current product. LoTV has tons of open potential to improve upon the current game. Getting a new lead could really add a different perspective of creative direction. IMO, nothing bad can happen from here cause I'm not happy with how the product currently rests. To address your second point: SC2 actually feels like it's on the rise. Viewer numbers look great and production by organizers is quite amazing. I feel like as a community SC2 hasn't felt more positive then it does now.
I think we can all agree that saying "sc2 can't get worse" is an exaggeration and is definitely not being a positive member of the community.
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Haha sc2 could have been worse, that shredder unit, epitome of bad unit design.
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Does any one know if he worked on Red Alert Three? If so I can see only good things coming from this
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On August 16 2014 19:08 Sapphire.lux wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2014 18:54 Faust852 wrote:
I feel like sc2 is close to perfect, the only true anoyings things are how laggy and buggy the hub is, and the hackers. For the rest I'm pretty happy. To have this kind of opinion is fine, but it's so fucking stupid to call other peoples posts and opinions as trolls or haters or whatever just because they don't think the game is all wonderful. Show nested quote +On August 16 2014 08:52 Tresher wrote:
Man TL turned into a massive trollfest. I asked why people say "Cant get any worse". Two people after me make a post: "Cant get any worse"...
With people being in super dick mode like this, this forum is slowly turning into Bnet forums. Do people really have this much fun annoying other users? Sometimes I hate the Internet. People don't criticize the game to annoy you, they don't even care about you. Some people think the game is close to perfect, others that it's in a poor state. Neither of them is trolling.
Lmao coming from a person who makes obnoxious balance posts in all bold on Bnet forums. No need to be rude. When the first two posts after mine say "Cant get any worse" when I wrote people shouldnt say that in my VERY first sentence, than I must assume its trolling. To be fair, nobody cares about you either. I dont make balance posts all bolded like you on Bnet forums to get attention.
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On August 17 2014 03:12 Tresher wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2014 19:08 Sapphire.lux wrote:On August 16 2014 18:54 Faust852 wrote:
I feel like sc2 is close to perfect, the only true anoyings things are how laggy and buggy the hub is, and the hackers. For the rest I'm pretty happy. To have this kind of opinion is fine, but it's so fucking stupid to call other peoples posts and opinions as trolls or haters or whatever just because they don't think the game is all wonderful. On August 16 2014 08:52 Tresher wrote:
Man TL turned into a massive trollfest. I asked why people say "Cant get any worse". Two people after me make a post: "Cant get any worse"...
With people being in super dick mode like this, this forum is slowly turning into Bnet forums. Do people really have this much fun annoying other users? Sometimes I hate the Internet. People don't criticize the game to annoy you, they don't even care about you. Some people think the game is close to perfect, others that it's in a poor state. Neither of them is trolling. Lmao coming from a person who makes obnoxious balance posts in all bold on Bnet forums.
haha what are you talking about?
No need to be rude
I'm not. It's the reality. The people that made those posts probably never even read your posts.
When the first two posts after mine say "Cant get any worse" when I wrote people shouldnt say that in my VERY first sentence, than I must assume its trolling.
That SC2 is in a bad state is a common held opinion (regardless if you agree with it or not). Why do you tell people what they should or shouldn't say? It's not trolling, it's an honest opinion that has nothing to do with you or any of your posts.
To be fair, nobody cares about you either. I dont make balance posts all bolded like you on Bnet forums to get attention.
I hate the bnet forum and i only posted a few times and almost always in relation to mech. Who do you think i am on that forum and again, why are so sure of yourself when you know nothing at all?
I though you were just taking yourself a bit to seriously but i see the problem goes much deeper. You are entertaining though.
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I looked at HoTS along with most people as an opportunity to fix or at least change fundamental game play, unfortunately this didn't happen and what we got was a design team with poor imagination thus ending up with some extra lack lustre units tacked onto WoL.
I Remember the promises by this team, such as nydus worm revamp, bad units being removed etc. Instead we ended up with swarm hosts, a piss poor implementation of the defiler, shitty versions of Firebats and Spider mines and the buffing of Protoss to the point where the game is over run with PvP
Really cant see thisperson making any difference unless Blizzard are going to be brave in LoTV.
Meh ....
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On August 16 2014 22:46 Caladan wrote:Oh wow. That's rather not good news. I mean there must be a reason why C&C F2P wasn't even released, right? What I don't understand is: Why don't they just take one of their own guys as Lead Designer? Blizzard has so many good people that know the franchise in and out.
He's Lead Producer, not designer. His job is basically to get the product development is moving along, gets finished and shipped. He's not probably not going to be directly responsible for any design aspects I don't think.
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On August 15 2014 04:46 Newbton wrote:
Because having C&C people develop SC2 was such a great thing... TT
He worked on a C&C game that never came out. He did not work on any of the existing C&C games. Negro please, read the thread.
Besides, the original Command & Conquer and its sequel are nothing like C&C: Generals. Generals is C&C in name only, made by different people. So when you want to talk about C&C design, you really have to be more specific.
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