IEM Shenzhen's Group Stage started off with Group A unfolding as we expected.
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Group B was a lot more even as
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IEM Shenzhen's Group Stage started off with Group A unfolding as we expected. ![]() Group B was a lot more even as | ||
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Meavis
Netherlands1300 Posts
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HoZBlooddrop
Italy324 Posts
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
One thing the write-up doesn't really touch on is the lag issues that plagued the players all night. TRUE's series against Innovation started with the two players discussing lag in-game, and featured some crazy micro blunders by TRUE. I'm not saying the guy is a TvZ expert, but there's no way latency wasn't involved. Lag obviously played a huge role in Inno's series against Snute, as Inno lost a Reaper to slow Lings off creep which resulted in him losing his FE and being down 0-1 very early on. During that series, Snute would go on to pause the game due to "laggyu." Hard to really know the extent to which lag influenced the results, but the players obviously had to compete in subpar conditions. I can't for the life of me understand Blizzard's unwillingness to fix this atrocious, glaring issue. | ||
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pretender58
Germany713 Posts
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Aber
Sweden332 Posts
hope he pulls a good one | ||
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sharkie
Austria18525 Posts
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Thyrym
89 Posts
But i think zest will just roll everything... god.. he's so op... | ||
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On July 17 2014 20:58 sharkie wrote: oh my god Snute advanced out of a Code S quality group of players o.O perhaps now people will stop say "he only beat guys to bad for code a/code s he never would have a chance there etc" like its usual after the hsc wins etc ![]() he just IS code S caliber ![]() | ||
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thirtyapm
521 Posts
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NihilisticGod
Northern Ireland174 Posts
Hopefully he goes on to take the whole thing :D | ||
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RevolutionX
Netherlands18 Posts
edit: http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2/profile/pastBroadcasts | ||
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appletree
Denmark109 Posts
Thanks for link to VODS, RevolutionX. | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On July 17 2014 21:47 RevolutionX wrote: any vod's? edit: http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2/profile/pastBroadcasts Here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=22594135 | ||
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Painiyff
Canada26 Posts
On July 17 2014 20:40 pure.Wasted wrote: Jjakji showed a lot of heart and skill in his series against Zest. TRUE's game 1 vs. Stork was definitely the most memorable match, and even though he lost to Snute, he displayed some fantastic ZvZ. One thing the write-up doesn't really touch on is the lag issues that plagued the players all night. TRUE's series against Innovation started with the two players discussing lag in-game, and featured some crazy micro blunders by TRUE. I'm not saying the guy is a TvZ expert, but there's no way latency wasn't involved. Lag obviously played a huge role in Inno's series against Snute, as Inno lost a Reaper to slow Lings off creep which resulted in him losing his FE and being down 0-1 very early on. During that series, Snute would go on to pause the game due to "laggyu." Hard to really know the extent to which lag influenced the results, but the players obviously had to compete in subpar conditions. I can't for the life of me understand Blizzard's unwillingness to fix this atrocious, glaring issue. If by fixing you mean giving LAN, then Blizzard wont do it because certain ppl would just play the cracked/pirated version of the game... | ||
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watchlulu
Germany475 Posts
On July 17 2014 21:57 Painiyff wrote: If by fixing you mean giving LAN, then Blizzard wont do it because certain ppl would just play the cracked/pirated version of the game... I completely disagree. Right now you can play EVERYTHING with the starter version besides 1v1 Ladder, I think LAN-mode now would even get (at least some) more players into the game because all you would have to do is having an battle.net account which is made up in about 3 minutes We had some LAN's were we played SC2 with up to 8 Players and it was insane fun (we played standard multiplayer maps, not arcade or sth.) but the laggs were a big problem every time because my internet connection is really bad. I think giving SC2 a LAN ability now would just make sense in almost every case. The only problem for streamers would be that they can only cast tournaments when they are actually at the place where it happens because they can't join a lobby via Internet anymore. Edit: To get back to Topic: I did not catch that many games of IEM but the series between TRUE and Stork was really refreshing and entertaining. Also I'm sorry for Illusion but it would've been a huge surprise if he'd even took a single map tbh, so many good players there. | ||
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Cluster__
United States328 Posts
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juvenal
2448 Posts
On July 17 2014 20:34 19Meavis93 wrote: Snute hype, keeping the foreign dream alive. g3 vs Stork was so full of hype | ||
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sciserr
Norway16 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7816 Posts
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jakethesnake
Canada4948 Posts
Also, holy crap Snute. Way to be amazing in a group that I thought he would be lucky to get 3rd place. Unreal how good he is. | ||
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Rescawen
Finland1028 Posts
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nimdil
Poland3751 Posts
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Cricketer12
United States13990 Posts
he's not perfect, but he's pretty damn good | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
On July 17 2014 21:57 Painiyff wrote: Show nested quote + On July 17 2014 20:40 pure.Wasted wrote: Jjakji showed a lot of heart and skill in his series against Zest. TRUE's game 1 vs. Stork was definitely the most memorable match, and even though he lost to Snute, he displayed some fantastic ZvZ. One thing the write-up doesn't really touch on is the lag issues that plagued the players all night. TRUE's series against Innovation started with the two players discussing lag in-game, and featured some crazy micro blunders by TRUE. I'm not saying the guy is a TvZ expert, but there's no way latency wasn't involved. Lag obviously played a huge role in Inno's series against Snute, as Inno lost a Reaper to slow Lings off creep which resulted in him losing his FE and being down 0-1 very early on. During that series, Snute would go on to pause the game due to "laggyu." Hard to really know the extent to which lag influenced the results, but the players obviously had to compete in subpar conditions. I can't for the life of me understand Blizzard's unwillingness to fix this atrocious, glaring issue. If by fixing you mean giving LAN, then Blizzard wont do it because certain ppl would just play the cracked/pirated version of the game... That is a stupid arguement, you can't ladder on cracked or pirated versions. Also no one is saying that you should be able to play campaign offline. Just bloody LAN, why would people pirate a game they have never played before to play against the computer (or other players) if you don't even know how to build an SCV.... Everyone that wants to play SC2 has bought the game already, and if they haven't SC2 already have lots of perks if you want to play it. Like player spawning. There really is no good excuse for not getting LAN. | ||
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icydergosu
528 Posts
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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Silvana
3713 Posts
So happy for Snute also! But sad for Stork ![]() | ||
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Digitalis
United States1043 Posts
Does it just mean a lesson in standard x? | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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Ctesias
4595 Posts
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Prolet
United States37 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On July 18 2014 01:02 Digitalis wrote: I never really comprehend the meaning of clinic when used in this context? Does it just mean a lesson in standard x? Essentially, "putting on a clinic" means displaying how to do something very well (alternatively, well and with little effort). At least that's the context I would use the term in. | ||
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jackslater
Russian Federation604 Posts
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
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sm1995
Korea (South)69 Posts
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swag_bro
Japan782 Posts
Seeing as how well Snute played against Stork, I'd say he has a realistic chance of beating Zest if they meet. Other than Taeja or Snute, I can't anyone beating Zest. Snute is a maybe. Taeja is a yes. | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On July 18 2014 02:08 swag_bro wrote: Good to see foreigners other than Scarlett or Naniwa or Stephano beating two of the best Zerg and Protoss players in the world. Hoping for Snute to get at least top 4. Seeing as how well Snute played against Stork, I'd say he has a realistic chance of beating Zest if they meet. Other than Taeja or Snute, I can't anyone beating Zest. Snute is a maybe. Taeja is a yes. I think Zest is the one player he would want to face the least. Zest is a monster against zerg and especially against SH styles. I think Taeja or Innovation have the best shot against him. Maybe someone can get lucky in PvP. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On July 18 2014 02:08 swag_bro wrote: Good to see foreigners other than Scarlett or Naniwa or Stephano beating two of the best Zerg and Protoss players in the world. Hoping for Snute to get at least top 4. Seeing as how well Snute played against Stork, I'd say he has a realistic chance of beating Zest if they meet. Other than Taeja or Snute, I can't anyone beating Zest. Snute is a maybe. Taeja is a yes. Solar has the best chance of beating Zest, his ZvP is crazy good. | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On July 18 2014 01:58 sm1995 wrote: To be honest, when snute go to korea, he can't even go to code s. Stork luckily went to code s only with his pvp skill. Snute cant stand with korea protoss Debatable. TRUE (who lost to Snute as well) is also a semi-finalist of the latest Code S but somehow doesn't appear in your post at all. I'd say, if Snute would get one of the easier groups in Code A (For example being in group B instead of DRG), he could definitly make Code S, although his run would probably be very short. | ||
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swag_bro
Japan782 Posts
On July 18 2014 02:32 Xoronius wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2014 01:58 sm1995 wrote: To be honest, when snute go to korea, he can't even go to code s. Stork luckily went to code s only with his pvp skill. Snute cant stand with korea protoss Debatable. TRUE (who lost to Snute as well) is also a semi-finalist of the latest Code S but somehow doesn't appear in your post at all. I'd say, if Snute would get one of the easier groups in Code A (For example being in group B instead of DRG), he could definitly make Code S, although his run would probably be very short. Also Debatable. I think Snute can make a run as impressive as Naniwa's. The only person who would be able to stop him would be someone of championship calibre like how Mvp or DRG stopped him when they were of championship form back in the day. | ||
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Silvana
3713 Posts
On July 18 2014 02:13 DarkLordOlli wrote: Show nested quote + On July 18 2014 02:08 swag_bro wrote: Good to see foreigners other than Scarlett or Naniwa or Stephano beating two of the best Zerg and Protoss players in the world. Hoping for Snute to get at least top 4. Seeing as how well Snute played against Stork, I'd say he has a realistic chance of beating Zest if they meet. Other than Taeja or Snute, I can't anyone beating Zest. Snute is a maybe. Taeja is a yes. I think Zest is the one player he would want to face the least. Zest is a monster against zerg and especially against SH styles. I think Taeja or Innovation have the best shot against him. Maybe someone can get lucky in PvP. Yeah, pretty much this. | ||
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Pyloss
Germany1515 Posts
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
On July 17 2014 20:39 HoZBlooddrop wrote: Foreigner hope! those things still exist i thought they already sitting next to a dodo bird | ||
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nimdil
Poland3751 Posts
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