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You can find TL Strategy's preview of the maps here
seak99
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada69 Posts
July 01 2014 01:10 GMT
#101
not sure why blizzard wouldn't use community maps more.... they don't have ton pay anyone to make maps and just pick whatever ones they like
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24233 Posts
July 01 2014 01:17 GMT
#102
Wow, after playing those maps... I just wish I had more vetos. I like Catallena quite a lot, but the others... I'll have to play at least one, and I don't think I'm going to enjoy the games on it.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
July 01 2014 01:29 GMT
#103
Wow, the 1v1 map pool is completely comprised of community-made maps this season with not a single Blizzard map in sight. How far we've come since the earliest days if WoL when we all had to deal with some really nasty Blizzard maps.

I think the HotS 1v1 map pools have been solid so far, and this season will be no exception.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
July 01 2014 01:31 GMT
#104
god can I have a normal 90-degree overview please? those 3d views do nothing but hurting my eyes
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
July 01 2014 01:39 GMT
#105
On July 01 2014 10:31 Arceus wrote:
god can I have a normal 90-degree overview please? those 3d views do nothing but hurting my eyes


ask and ye shall receive
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 01:54:35
July 01 2014 01:54 GMT
#106
Maps play out pretty much in one or two ways. Wish we could have maps that utilise neat mechanics or are actually different in the ladder/WCS.
T P Z sagi
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 02:06:07
July 01 2014 02:01 GMT
#107
"Meh" is appropriate. Foxtrot is probably the best out of the newly added, but only with cross-spawns. Otherwise, they are all sort of mediocre-looking for competitive play. We'll see, I suppose. I'd expect to see many of the new ones vetoed, except they took out the best of the older maps, so now it's like a total mixed bag. Good to see Alterzim out though.

Oh well.

Edit:
I changed my mind, I don't particularly care for Foxtrot either. Nimbus or Deadwing might be the best one.
Also Catallena is just bad. Cool idea, but just bad.

I keep changing my mind. I'm not very content with any of them, really.
Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
July 01 2014 02:11 GMT
#108
Biggest note I took from this:

"Beyond Season 3, the map pool will also be used in the WCS Global Finals at BlizzCon taking place November 7–8. Below is a compiled list of the complete map pool."
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
July 01 2014 02:22 GMT
#109
Such big maps! I'm Zerg but sometimes I feel like it works against me (waystation), probably because I'm bad.

but, I am also sad to see Habitation Station go

I really like some of the unique builds and games that map made, and it seems like just yesterday it was added.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
July 01 2014 02:47 GMT
#110
I do wish we had more smaller maps though. Some big maps are ok. But, more proper melee maps would be nice.
KT best KT ~ 2014
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
July 01 2014 02:48 GMT
#111
On July 01 2014 09:56 SidianTheBard wrote:
My poor poor baby Habitation Station, <3. It's had it's time on ladder and produced plenty of awesome and unique games and it's amazing how many maps are trying out Gold minerals again, makes me happy because Gold Minerals were pretty much considered a joke but now people are using them again in maps. Yay!

This new map pool should be really fun. I like it quite a bit and having new maps come in just mean more new strategies hopefully emerging.

Congratulations to all map makers that are on ladder, cherish it bros! Welcome to the big league! haha.


I really liked your map, Sidian. Both to play and to watch. It had a good run. I am looking forward to the next one!
KT best KT ~ 2014
Frankenberry
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark302 Posts
July 01 2014 02:50 GMT
#112
Looks pretty interesting to me ^^
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
July 01 2014 03:00 GMT
#113
On July 01 2014 10:39 Jer99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 10:31 Arceus wrote:
god can I have a normal 90-degree overview please? those 3d views do nothing but hurting my eyes


ask and ye shall receive

Except the pictures for Catallena and Nimbus are of old versions.
vibeo gane,
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
July 01 2014 03:09 GMT
#114
Some quick number crunching:


Foxtrot has a size of 148x148, giving it an area of 21904
Deading has a size of 167x167, giving it an area of 27889
Nimbus has a size of 152x152, giving it an area of 23104
Catallena has a size of 164x164, giving it an area of 26896

Compared to frost (158x162, 25596):

Foxtrot is 85.6% the size of frost
Deadwing is ~9% larger than frost
Nimbus is 90.2% the size of frost
Catallena is 5.1% larger than frost

In general, the maps are smaller than frost

Now, compare these to the even bigger maps such as Waystation (168x168, 28224) and Alterzim (192x192, 36864) and these maps are significantly smaller than the previous map pool
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
July 01 2014 03:13 GMT
#115
You can't scout at all on Old Country. That is concerning to me.

Glad to see they're taking some chances to continue to improve the team play map pools however.
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19297 Posts
July 01 2014 03:18 GMT
#116
Very cool map pool!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
July 01 2014 03:26 GMT
#117
On July 01 2014 07:56 Uvantak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 07:30 Shaella wrote:
Ick. A whole bunch of 4player maps for WCS

no thank you..

Blizzard asked specifically for 4p maps this TLMC, so there was not much that we could do about it.

Oh i don't blame you, i just don't like 4p maps in WCS, lol <3
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 03:36:45
July 01 2014 03:36 GMT
#118
On July 01 2014 12:09 Jer99 wrote:
Some quick number crunching:


Foxtrot has a size of 148x148, giving it an area of 21904
Deading has a size of 167x167, giving it an area of 27889
Nimbus has a size of 152x152, giving it an area of 23104
Catallena has a size of 164x164, giving it an area of 26896

Compared to frost (158x162, 25596):

Foxtrot is 85.6% the size of frost
Deadwing is ~9% larger than frost
Nimbus is 90.2% the size of frost
Catallena is 5.1% larger than frost

In general, the maps are smaller than frost

Now, compare these to the even bigger maps such as Waystation (168x168, 28224) and Alterzim (192x192, 36864) and these maps are significantly smaller than the previous map pool

Thank you! I am a fan of 4 player maps in general.

Of all these new ones, I see myself vetoing Deadwing *as a Zerg player... I don't like OVERLY big (alterzim and waystation) ... and the 3rd and 4th look WAY too easily defensible for a meching Terran. The others look decent. We will see though
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
Josh_Video
Profile Joined August 2013
Canada798 Posts
July 01 2014 04:44 GMT
#119
Nimbus will be awful for finding in base proxies. I like most of them, not sure about a few, No strongly disliked maps, pretty good.
MKP :D ~ MMA ~ Scarlett ~ Taeja ~ Mvp ~ InnoVation ~ Polt | Prime ( RIP :( ) ~ Acer ~ SK Telecom T1 | I enjoyed the locust war of May 3, 2014.
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 04:47:26
July 01 2014 04:47 GMT
#120
On July 01 2014 12:09 Jer99 wrote:
Some quick number crunching:


Foxtrot has a size of 148x148, giving it an area of 21904
Deading has a size of 167x167, giving it an area of 27889
Nimbus has a size of 152x152, giving it an area of 23104
Catallena has a size of 164x164, giving it an area of 26896

Compared to frost (158x162, 25596):

Foxtrot is 85.6% the size of frost
Deadwing is ~9% larger than frost
Nimbus is 90.2% the size of frost
Catallena is 5.1% larger than frost

In general, the maps are smaller than frost

Now, compare these to the even bigger maps such as Waystation (168x168, 28224) and Alterzim (192x192, 36864) and these maps are significantly smaller than the previous map pool


Ooooh, that is good. I remember reading a Dustin Browder AMA long ago where he commented that SC2 had been designed for smaller and medium sized maps. As such the recent trend toward more and more larger maps was odd and not good for the game, IMO. I'd still have liked another two player map, but I can live with smaller 4 player maps too.
KT best KT ~ 2014
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