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DreamHack Open 2014 schedule and dates

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Heyoka
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Katowice25012 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 17:13:37
March 27 2014 16:50 GMT
#1
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DreamHack is ready to talk about the full schedule for their DreamHack Open events, six tournaments through the year with a total of $200,000 in prizes.

EIZO, HyperX, and Razer are proud to join DreamHack in presenting the DreamHack Open 2014 Tour with six live StarCraft® II: Heart of the Swarm® tournaments across Europe. The best Starcraft II pro-gamers from around the globe will have the opportunity to compete for a total of $200,000 being awarded as well as earn their place in esports history as the next DreamHack Open Champion.

DreamHack Open 2014 will feature the same core format that fans and players have come to know and love in the 2013 year; including completely open sign-ups as well as the much praised final eight players show. With a newly added stop in Moscow, each DreamHack Open stop will qualify four players to the tour-ending Grand Finals hosted at DreamHack Winter. To make it to the final championship at DreamHack Winter, every single player will need to prove themselves at a live tour stop. More information on the format can be seen on the infographic below.

Click the image for a larger version“DreamHack Open had an explosive ending in 2013 with Team Liquid’s TaeJa concluding a year of domination with a victory over StarTale’s Life. We are very excited to see how the stories will unfold in 2014.” says DreamHack CEO, Robert Ohlén “Of course none of this would be possible without the support of our sponsors, so we are thrilled to welcome back EIZO and HyperX, as well as welcome Razer and thank them for making 2014 the biggest year for DreamHack Open yet.”

The full list of dates, tournament format, and broadcast details can be found below. DreamHack Bucharest signups have already begun, so click here to get your name in to participate in the first stop of DreamHack Open 2014!


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DreamHack Open Dates

DreamHack Bucharest
26-27 April, Sala Polivalenta, Bucharest, Romania

DreamHack Summer 2014
14-16 June, Elmia, Jönköping, Sweden

DreamHack Valencia
18-19 July, Feria de Valencia, Valencia, Spain

DreamHack Moscow
13-14 September, Stadium Live, Moscow, Russia

DreamHack Stockholm
26-27 September, Stockholm Globe Arenas, Stockholm, Sweden

DreamHack Winter 2014
27-29 November, Elmia, Jönköping, Sweden

Format, Prize Money, and WCS Points

For 2014, DreamHack Open will feature a very similar circuit format to 2013. Each Open tour stop will feature sign-up for open participation of up to 96 players, a mixture of professionals as well as amateurs. All competitors will compete in 3 group stages to narrow down to 16 players, and from here the competition will become single elimination best of 3, with a best of 5 grand finals. An important note is this year we will align with the StarCraft II World Championship Series (WCS) system, and shift from using round-robin group stage format to dual tournament group stage format. We are proud to continue partnership with Blizzard Entertainment and the StarCraft II WCS competition in offering 4,000 WCS points for every DreamHack Open Tour stop. The top four players of each open tour stop will qualify to the DreamHack Open Grand Finals to be hosted at DreamHack Winter 2014.

DreamHack Open Tour Stops
Bucharest – Summer – Valencia – Stockholm – Moscow

Total: $25,000 and 4,000 WCS Points, top 4 qualify to DreamHack Winter Grand Finals
1st place: $10,000
Runner-up: $5,000
3rd/4th: $3,000
5th-8th: $1,000

DreamHack Open Grand Finals at DreamHack Winter

Total: $75,000
1st place: $30,000
Runner-up: $15,000
3rd: $10,000
4th: $6,000
5th/6th: $4,000
7th/8th: $3,000

Competition and Spectator Info

From April 26-27th, DreamHack will return to Sala Polivalenta for the second year. In 2013 DreamHack Bucharest featured what may have been the most stacked open tournament the StarCraft community saw in 2013, and we are very excited to return. Be sure to sign-up today to guarantee your spot in the competition, or purchase a spectator pass to catch all the action live from the audience.

Sign-up to compete here.

Purchase a spectator pass here.

The official hotel for DreamHack Bucharest is the Intercontinental Hotel, find details for booking rooms at preferential rates here. For information on travelling to the event information can be found here.


They're also doing stuff with SVT again if you happen to live in Sweden and watch television.

As with 2013, fans will be able to tune into all DreamHack Open tournaments for free in 720p thanks to our partner Twitch. DreamHack is also proud to continue our partnership with SVT, and will feature streaming on SVTplay as well as have all grand finals shown on Swedish Television.

For every DreamHack Open Tour stop fans will be able to tune in to follow the group stage and bracket stage for free and in 720p HD thanks to our partner Twitch. Each stop will feature a world class team of commentators, hosts, and personalities to make sure you don’t miss a minute of the action. We intend to continue to revamp our broadcast and make use of a greater pool of commentators and personalities to present StarCraft matches in a way never before seen by the StarCraft audience. The best group stage games will be selected and commentated, and the final 8 players will battle it out on stage for the title of DreamHack Open champion. The live stream will be available at http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacksc2.

DreamHack is proud to continue our partnership with SVT for DreamHack Open. This will mark the 5th year of DreamHack working with SVT to broadcast esports to a greater audience. A livestream will be available on SVTplay.se and each grand finals will be broadcast on SVT’s Television channels.
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@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Loomies
Profile Joined July 2010
United States645 Posts
March 27 2014 17:07 GMT
#2
6 events in 8 months...YES!
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
March 27 2014 17:08 GMT
#3
Still planning to host in Russia?
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mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
March 27 2014 17:09 GMT
#4
Dang Dreamhack Stockholm is going to be 2 weeks after Moscow, What a crazy month it will be!
Long live the Boss Toss!
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
March 27 2014 17:10 GMT
#5
This will be a great season!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 27 2014 17:10 GMT
#6
aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh yeahhhhhhhhh
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
March 27 2014 17:10 GMT
#7
Is the dual tournament the so-called "MSL/GSL groups stage"?
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 17:17:10
March 27 2014 17:16 GMT
#8
There were HUGE shitstorm about DH Moscow sometime ago.

EDIT: Actually, over half year ago.
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
March 27 2014 17:16 GMT
#9
On March 28 2014 02:10 McRatyn wrote:
Is the dual tournament the so-called "MSL/GSL groups stage"?

Yes
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Takuna
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany332 Posts
March 27 2014 17:18 GMT
#10
No more coinflipping after hours of 3-way-ties, a classic part of dreamhack dies.
The spirits move me.
Scoobers
Profile Joined May 2013
48 Posts
March 27 2014 17:18 GMT
#11
Gotta love Dreamhack! Thanks for coming back I hope mvp wins one simce he doesnt have a DH title yet, I also wish TaeJa does well and dominates winter again.
Im quite skeptical about hosting one in russia
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
March 27 2014 17:22 GMT
#12
Really cool that they are hosting so many tournaments. Finally russian sc2 fans get a major tournament!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 17:27:28
March 27 2014 17:26 GMT
#13
am I the only one excited about DH Moscow? Russia has a lot of starcraft fans, I kind of expect from them to repeat Katowice

also fuck yes, finally no stupid 3-way ties and group fixing
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 27 2014 17:26 GMT
#14
I wish they'd stick with round robin groups
Revo1ver
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation12 Posts
March 27 2014 17:29 GMT
#15
On March 28 2014 02:08 R1CH wrote:
Still planning to host in Russia?

What is wrong in Russia for you, bro ? Would like to hear your explanation of that "problem" , no offense , just curious.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 27 2014 17:39 GMT
#16
On March 28 2014 02:29 Revo1ver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 02:08 R1CH wrote:
Still planning to host in Russia?

What is wrong in Russia for you, bro ? Would like to hear your explanation of that "problem" , no offense , just curious.


I'll go out on a limb and say it might be because of the Russia/Ukraine situation

that's the first thing that comes to mind for me anyway
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 27 2014 17:40 GMT
#17
On March 28 2014 02:29 Revo1ver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 02:08 R1CH wrote:
Still planning to host in Russia?

What is wrong in Russia for you, bro ? Would like to hear your explanation of that "problem" , no offense , just curious.


Crimean tensions, recent controversy over anti-homosexual legislation would be my guesses.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ArtistenSc2
Profile Joined October 2012
Sweden53 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 17:43:14
March 27 2014 17:40 GMT
#18
excited, and maybe Nani will play at DH summer or stockholm, keeping my hopes up for him,
to get distance and then return after katharsis (go travel and be relaxed, enjoy life, stop being online for a while) ;-)
want to follow na/eu-players that in ro16+ro8 really can play on that level,
on par with the best koreans and in crunch times :-)
gogo NA+EU !!
best foreigner ever, Naniwa, WB!!
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
March 27 2014 17:43 GMT
#19
On March 28 2014 02:08 R1CH wrote:
Still planning to host in Russia?



If not, and if they're craving a cool climate that's hungry for starcraft then hint hint nudge nudge Canada wants more SC2 action!
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 17:47:16
March 27 2014 17:46 GMT
#20
On March 28 2014 02:39 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 02:29 Revo1ver wrote:
On March 28 2014 02:08 R1CH wrote:
Still planning to host in Russia?

What is wrong in Russia for you, bro ? Would like to hear your explanation of that "problem" , no offense , just curious.


I'll go out on a limb and say it might be because of the Russia/Ukraine situation

that's the first thing that comes to mind for me anyway


It would be pretty stupid to abandon hosting a tournament in russia because of that. Because everyone, investing just a little time to explore the backgrounds of this "crisis", knows, that russia is not the only one to blame here.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 27 2014 17:49 GMT
#21
On March 28 2014 02:46 TeeTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 02:39 Zealously wrote:
On March 28 2014 02:29 Revo1ver wrote:
On March 28 2014 02:08 R1CH wrote:
Still planning to host in Russia?

What is wrong in Russia for you, bro ? Would like to hear your explanation of that "problem" , no offense , just curious.


I'll go out on a limb and say it might be because of the Russia/Ukraine situation

that's the first thing that comes to mind for me anyway


It would be pretty stupid to abandon hosting a tournament in russia because of that. Because everyone, investing just a little time to explore the backgrounds of this "crisis", knows, that russia is not the only one to blame here.

the world is black and white! you didn't know that?
let's not go there again
great news for sc2 and esports in general, hope to see something like jd vs stardust or sjow vs life or leenock vs naniwa again! dreamhack always delivers, maybe with happy in moscow? would be awesome.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 27 2014 17:49 GMT
#22
Dreamhack is awesome. So glad to see this announcement.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
March 27 2014 17:49 GMT
#23
so if i undestand correctly, no open qualifiers for people in lets say...America to have a chance at participating in this prestigious tournament?
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 17:52:52
March 27 2014 17:50 GMT
#24
On March 28 2014 02:46 TeeTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 02:39 Zealously wrote:
On March 28 2014 02:29 Revo1ver wrote:
On March 28 2014 02:08 R1CH wrote:
Still planning to host in Russia?

What is wrong in Russia for you, bro ? Would like to hear your explanation of that "problem" , no offense , just curious.


I'll go out on a limb and say it might be because of the Russia/Ukraine situation

that's the first thing that comes to mind for me anyway


It would be pretty stupid to abandon hosting a tournament in russia because of that. Because everyone, investing just a little time to explore the backgrounds of this "crisis", knows, that russia is not the only one to blame here.


Well they're clearly not abandoning it so there's that, I'm just saying that if I were to cancel a tournament in Russia for one reason, that would be the reason.

But this is off-topic.
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vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
March 27 2014 18:00 GMT
#25
Woo DH 2014!
Expect to see one in NA in 2015 :D
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
JessicaSc2
Profile Joined February 2014
Poland123 Posts
March 27 2014 18:02 GMT
#26
Not watching dreamhack russia. Also I won't ever buy any products that are promoted on dreamhack Russia. Hopefully more people will solidarize with Ukrainians. Thank you for your support.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 27 2014 18:06 GMT
#27
Interesting
Im guessing BlizzCon is before DH Winter grand finals thing as no WCS points to be given there? I heard a rumor that BlizzCon is confirmed already for this year so im guessing that is true.
Hoping this doesn't get in the way of any other tournaments aka GSL so we can have the best of the best playing :D

Only downside to this great announcement is they are using the same venues as last years tour? Be a bit more cool if they could change it up every year, of course always uses Sweden as the base But maybe Portugal could use some love? Or Italy? Or England etcetc, many destinations in Europe Using same ones year in year out seems a bit bm, especially when one of them is Russia where it is so much paperwork to get into the country.
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Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
March 27 2014 18:09 GMT
#28
I think I might choose Dreamhack Stockholm as the event to attend in a Frog Costume. I do need to finish that bet by the end of the year, Stockholm as good as any place to do it since the Season Finals were cancelled.
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 27 2014 18:10 GMT
#29
On March 28 2014 03:09 Dinotramp wrote:
I think I might choose Dreamhack Stockholm as the event to attend in a Frog Costume. I do need to finish that bet by the end of the year, Stockholm as good as any place to do it since the Season Finals were cancelled.


Let me know ahead of time and I'll make sure I go as well
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Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3687 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 18:24:38
March 27 2014 18:17 GMT
#30
On March 28 2014 02:39 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 02:29 Revo1ver wrote:
On March 28 2014 02:08 R1CH wrote:
Still planning to host in Russia?

What is wrong in Russia for you, bro ? Would like to hear your explanation of that "problem" , no offense , just curious.


I'll go out on a limb and say it might be because of the Russia/Ukraine situation

that's the first thing that comes to mind for me anyway


Yea, maybe the fact that there are often Visa issues when going to Russia?

Really glad to see that DH goes there as they don't have that many eSports events, really wish they'd go to Canada as well to make up for NASL going down. Those guys literally only got an MLG in 08 and a few NASL events in the last few years.

@JessicaSc2: Yea lets fuck a Swedish company for bringing an event to a country that rarely has any and fuck Russian eSports fans for the country they were born in as well as giving Sponsors the message to not support Dreamhack in the future. Sounds great!
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 27 2014 18:22 GMT
#31
On March 28 2014 03:02 JessicaSc2 wrote:
Not watching dreamhack russia. Also I won't ever buy any products that are promoted on dreamhack Russia. Hopefully more people will solidarize with Ukrainians. Thank you for your support.


I sympathize with the Ukrainian people, but I'm not going to boycot an esports over it. But do what you want I guess.
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Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
March 27 2014 18:27 GMT
#32
Far more interested in how the CSGO tournaments expand in scope this year.

SC2 is always done right though.
Chaosu
Profile Joined October 2005
Poland404 Posts
March 27 2014 18:31 GMT
#33
On March 28 2014 03:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 03:02 JessicaSc2 wrote:
Not watching dreamhack russia. Also I won't ever buy any products that are promoted on dreamhack Russia. Hopefully more people will solidarize with Ukrainians. Thank you for your support.


I sympathize with the Ukrainian people, but I'm not going to boycot an esports over it. But do what you want I guess.


Dreamhack is purely commercial event. Yes it have a "mission" of promoting esports but mostly for their own good. Yes they will leave money in Russia - venue and crew costs, but they will also take money off Russia (sales, tickets) so it's hardly supporting Russia in any way. Summary: there is no reason to hate Dreamhack or Russian fans because of that event.

PS. I wonder if JessicaSc2 will stop buying Blizzard games and others LOL
Please be patient.
JessicaSc2
Profile Joined February 2014
Poland123 Posts
March 27 2014 18:35 GMT
#34
On March 28 2014 03:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 03:02 JessicaSc2 wrote:
Not watching dreamhack russia. Also I won't ever buy any products that are promoted on dreamhack Russia. Hopefully more people will solidarize with Ukrainians. Thank you for your support.


I sympathize with the Ukrainian people, but I'm not going to boycot an esports over it. But do what you want I guess.


If your country got invaded would you like that everybody just didn't care? Democratic nations should stand together against the tyranny. Doing dreamhack in Russia is like saying to everyone: nothing important is happening! Carry on! What if Russia annexes more Ukraine? Or the whole Ukraine? Will you still pretend that nothing is happening? What a farce. Russia should be thoroughly boycotted and ignored at least for now until the tensions get calmer.
Dinotramp
Profile Joined August 2012
Nauru2871 Posts
March 27 2014 18:36 GMT
#35
On March 28 2014 03:10 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 03:09 Dinotramp wrote:
I think I might choose Dreamhack Stockholm as the event to attend in a Frog Costume. I do need to finish that bet by the end of the year, Stockholm as good as any place to do it since the Season Finals were cancelled.


Let me know ahead of time and I'll make sure I go as well


What you mean do some sort of awkward LR meetup with me dressed as a frog so you can get picture evidence?
RIP Starcraft scene in the UK. Defeated by EG money and Swedish Zergs.
JessicaSc2
Profile Joined February 2014
Poland123 Posts
March 27 2014 18:38 GMT
#36
On March 28 2014 03:31 Chaosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 03:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On March 28 2014 03:02 JessicaSc2 wrote:
Not watching dreamhack russia. Also I won't ever buy any products that are promoted on dreamhack Russia. Hopefully more people will solidarize with Ukrainians. Thank you for your support.


I sympathize with the Ukrainian people, but I'm not going to boycot an esports over it. But do what you want I guess.


Dreamhack is purely commercial event. Yes it have a "mission" of promoting esports but mostly for their own good. Yes they will leave money in Russia - venue and crew costs, but they will also take money off Russia (sales, tickets) so it's hardly supporting Russia in any way. Summary: there is no reason to hate Dreamhack or Russian fans because of that event.



It's not about the money. It's about the location. You cannot just pretend that nothing is happening.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
March 27 2014 18:38 GMT
#37
On March 28 2014 02:43 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 02:08 R1CH wrote:
Still planning to host in Russia?



If not, and if they're craving a cool climate that's hungry for starcraft then hint hint nudge nudge Canada wants more SC2 action!

Its probably pretty expensive for them since they are a Swedish company to fly all the way to Toronto. Makes much more sense to have these events in poorer areas like Russia/Romania/Poland because the labor/infrastructure is probably a lot cheaper than up here. Although I guess Moscow is the most expensive city on the list of their 2014 events by a pretty large margin but I guess its safer than going to some second tier, Katowitze type city in Russia.
HerrHorst
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany140 Posts
March 27 2014 18:43 GMT
#38
On March 28 2014 03:38 JessicaSc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 03:31 Chaosu wrote:
On March 28 2014 03:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On March 28 2014 03:02 JessicaSc2 wrote:
Not watching dreamhack russia. Also I won't ever buy any products that are promoted on dreamhack Russia. Hopefully more people will solidarize with Ukrainians. Thank you for your support.


I sympathize with the Ukrainian people, but I'm not going to boycot an esports over it. But do what you want I guess.


Dreamhack is purely commercial event. Yes it have a "mission" of promoting esports but mostly for their own good. Yes they will leave money in Russia - venue and crew costs, but they will also take money off Russia (sales, tickets) so it's hardly supporting Russia in any way. Summary: there is no reason to hate Dreamhack or Russian fans because of that event.



It's not about the money. It's about the location. You cannot just pretend that nothing is happening.


Sure. Have fun boycotting every event you like and let the rest of us enjoy a hopefully exciting tournament.

[Don't forget to boycott the WCS events in Germany, we sell a lot of weapons to dubious nations.]
JessicaSc2
Profile Joined February 2014
Poland123 Posts
March 27 2014 18:45 GMT
#39

Sure. Have fun boycotting every event you like and let the rest of us enjoy a hopefully exciting tournament.



Have fun.
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
March 27 2014 18:48 GMT
#40
On March 28 2014 03:35 JessicaSc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 03:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On March 28 2014 03:02 JessicaSc2 wrote:
Not watching dreamhack russia. Also I won't ever buy any products that are promoted on dreamhack Russia. Hopefully more people will solidarize with Ukrainians. Thank you for your support.


I sympathize with the Ukrainian people, but I'm not going to boycot an esports over it. But do what you want I guess.


If your country got invaded would you like that everybody just didn't care? Democratic nations should stand together against the tyranny. Doing dreamhack in Russia is like saying to everyone: nothing important is happening! Carry on! What if Russia annexes more Ukraine? Or the whole Ukraine? Will you still pretend that nothing is happening? What a farce. Russia should be thoroughly boycotted and ignored at least for now until the tensions get calmer.


If Russia decides to annex all of Ukraine then that's boycott worthy. So far, they taken the part that wants to be Russian anyway. Should we boycott the united states too? Iraq and Afghanistan were invasions, but no one wants to boycott them.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 27 2014 18:49 GMT
#41
On March 28 2014 03:36 Dinotramp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 03:10 Zealously wrote:
On March 28 2014 03:09 Dinotramp wrote:
I think I might choose Dreamhack Stockholm as the event to attend in a Frog Costume. I do need to finish that bet by the end of the year, Stockholm as good as any place to do it since the Season Finals were cancelled.


Let me know ahead of time and I'll make sure I go as well


What you mean do some sort of awkward LR meetup with me dressed as a frog so you can get picture evidence?

Precisely that except it would be extremely not-awkward
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JessicaSc2
Profile Joined February 2014
Poland123 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 18:57:01
March 27 2014 18:56 GMT
#42


If Russia decides to annex all of Ukraine then that's boycott worthy. So far, they taken the part that wants to be Russian anyway. Should we boycott the united states too? Iraq and Afghanistan were invasions, but no one wants to boycott them.


I'm shocked that you should compare the two. First of all they were a NATO interventions. And the NATO countries didn't annex or plan to annex any of the part of these countries. The U.S. has withdrew all forces from Iraq and the full withdrawal is in process in regards to Afghanistan. Ukraine-Russia situation is a completely different matter. I won't go into details now but you just don't invade an annex other countries because a certain majority lives there.
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
March 27 2014 18:57 GMT
#43
just in case anyone thinks about attending the bucharest event, don't go to the hotel they promoted in the op, that's literally the most expensive shit in the country. there's plenty of other options.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 27 2014 18:58 GMT
#44
If you want to continue this discussion, please take it to PMs or a thread on the subject.
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TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 27 2014 18:59 GMT
#45
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/424359-dreamhack-open-moscow-in-october-2014
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 19:22:37
March 27 2014 19:06 GMT
#46
I love Dreamhacks, the more the better. My favorite offline event

Edit: removed offtopic reply
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jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
March 27 2014 19:37 GMT
#47
any updates about the player list from DH Bucharest?
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yido
Profile Joined March 2014
United States350 Posts
March 27 2014 19:55 GMT
#48
nice.
wish MLG would get back to being as active in the US area.
Here is hoping.

I'll be watching dhack from the couch till then.
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Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
March 27 2014 20:34 GMT
#49
The Moscow event puzzles me, will have to see how the situation develops in the months leading to it.
Greendotz
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2053 Posts
March 27 2014 20:55 GMT
#50
On March 28 2014 03:59 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/424359-dreamhack-open-moscow-in-october-2014


That thread was just locked for been "necro'd"
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
March 27 2014 21:11 GMT
#51
wasn't there rumored to be Dreamhack events in America? sad that didn't pan out but really excited for more DH action
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
March 27 2014 21:30 GMT
#52
On March 28 2014 05:34 Usagi wrote:
The Moscow event puzzles me, will have to see how the situation develops in the months leading to it.

It was already planned since the middle of last year.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 27 2014 21:31 GMT
#53
On March 28 2014 05:55 Greendotz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 03:59 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/424359-dreamhack-open-moscow-in-october-2014


That thread was just locked for been "necro'd"

Jessica strikes again :D
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Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33492 Posts
March 27 2014 21:35 GMT
#54
On March 28 2014 02:08 R1CH wrote:
Still planning to host in Russia?


I don't see what the problem is

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Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
March 27 2014 21:37 GMT
#55
On March 28 2014 03:35 JessicaSc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 03:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On March 28 2014 03:02 JessicaSc2 wrote:
Not watching dreamhack russia. Also I won't ever buy any products that are promoted on dreamhack Russia. Hopefully more people will solidarize with Ukrainians. Thank you for your support.


I sympathize with the Ukrainian people, but I'm not going to boycot an esports over it. But do what you want I guess.


If your country got invaded would you like that everybody just didn't care? Democratic nations should stand together against the tyranny. Doing dreamhack in Russia is like saying to everyone: nothing important is happening! Carry on! What if Russia annexes more Ukraine? Or the whole Ukraine? Will you still pretend that nothing is happening? What a farce. Russia should be thoroughly boycotted and ignored at least for now until the tensions get calmer.

You'd still call Ukraine a democratic nation after their legitimately elected president got overthrown even though the necessary majority to put him out of office has not been reached in parliament and with right-wing facists in the government?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 22:07:51
March 27 2014 21:49 GMT
#56
On March 28 2014 02:08 R1CH wrote:
Still planning to host in Russia?


Ahaha was thinking about posting exactly the same, didn't dare though


On March 28 2014 06:37 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 03:35 JessicaSc2 wrote:
On March 28 2014 03:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On March 28 2014 03:02 JessicaSc2 wrote:
Not watching dreamhack russia. Also I won't ever buy any products that are promoted on dreamhack Russia. Hopefully more people will solidarize with Ukrainians. Thank you for your support.


I sympathize with the Ukrainian people, but I'm not going to boycot an esports over it. But do what you want I guess.


If your country got invaded would you like that everybody just didn't care? Democratic nations should stand together against the tyranny. Doing dreamhack in Russia is like saying to everyone: nothing important is happening! Carry on! What if Russia annexes more Ukraine? Or the whole Ukraine? Will you still pretend that nothing is happening? What a farce. Russia should be thoroughly boycotted and ignored at least for now until the tensions get calmer.

You'd still call Ukraine a democratic nation after their legitimately elected president got overthrown even though the necessary majority to put him out of office has not been reached in parliament and with right-wing facists in the government?


"after their legitimately elected president" that guy literally was a marionette of Russia, believing anything else would be naive. But sometimes, you have to stand up against things that just aren't right, and I guess ukraine basically did that.


Thing is that serious bullshit of West vs. East is being played on ukrainian fields. Esports is something that isn't and should not be a political topic. Words like "I don't support Dreamhack Russia" don't help any ukrainian guy. If you're really willing to help and not just stand by, go there, bring some food, give shelter to people who lost their home. Go and organize demonstrations in your respective home country to try motivating people to care! I'm a german guy, and we germans don't really have huge problems, so why should we care. That's a harsh truth, but that's how it is. Many discuss current political topics, in bars, in trains, when meeting up, but none of my friends nor myself actually tries to change something. a comment on TL.net about boycotting Dreamhack Russia helps exactly as much as a facebook like prevents cancer.
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
March 27 2014 22:01 GMT
#57
On March 28 2014 06:49 boxerfred wrote:


"after their legitimately elected president" that guy literally was a marionette of Russia, believing anything else would be naive. Also, I don't want to pull out weird comparisons, but Hitler was elected in germany with like 97% or so for his party. Following your logic.. no, I won't follow your logic since that's too constructed. But sometimes, you have to stand up against things that just aren't right, and I guess ukraine basically did that.



this is historically wrong on so many levels, i can't even laugh
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 22:07:10
March 27 2014 22:03 GMT
#58
On March 28 2014 07:01 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 06:49 boxerfred wrote:


"after their legitimately elected president" that guy literally was a marionette of Russia, believing anything else would be naive. Also, I don't want to pull out weird comparisons, but Hitler was elected in germany with like 97% or so for his party. Following your logic.. no, I won't follow your logic since that's too constructed. But sometimes, you have to stand up against things that just aren't right, and I guess ukraine basically did that.



this is historically wrong on so many levels, i can't even laugh


it's correct, but oversimplifying. I'm just trying to give that "legit president" quote a bitter taste. I know as good as you that this "election" didn't have any democratic elements and had lots of influences like violence, restrictions on other parties, terror etc.. I'm thinking about editing my post, since it's misleading (the "Reichstagswahl" of March 1933 was with ~40% for Hitler's party and in terms of the Weimar Republic legal) and too harsh at that point.

edit: just looked up. indeed that almost-100%-decision was about austria joining germany. my fail, and I am seriously sorry for that.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
March 27 2014 22:12 GMT
#59
What part of

On March 28 2014 03:58 Zealously wrote:
If you want to continue this discussion, please take it to PMs or a thread on the subject.


Are you guys not understanding?
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Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-27 22:17:32
March 27 2014 22:16 GMT
#60
On March 28 2014 07:03 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 07:01 Undead1993 wrote:
On March 28 2014 06:49 boxerfred wrote:


"after their legitimately elected president" that guy literally was a marionette of Russia, believing anything else would be naive. Also, I don't want to pull out weird comparisons, but Hitler was elected in germany with like 97% or so for his party. Following your logic.. no, I won't follow your logic since that's too constructed. But sometimes, you have to stand up against things that just aren't right, and I guess ukraine basically did that.



this is historically wrong on so many levels, i can't even laugh


it's correct, but oversimplifying. I'm just trying to give that "legit president" quote a bitter taste. I know as good as you that this "election" didn't have any democratic elements and had lots of influences like violence, restrictions on other parties, terror etc.. I'm thinking about editing my post, since it's misleading (the "Reichstagswahl" of March 1933 was with ~40% for Hitler's party and in terms of the Weimar Republic legal) and too harsh at that point.

edit: just looked up. indeed that almost-100%-decision was about austria joining germany. my fail, and I am seriously sorry for that.

Except that's not true. Atleast according to the final OSCE report:

"The presidential election met most OSCE commitments and other international standards for democratic elections and consolidated progress achieved since 2004. The process was transparent and offered voters a genuine choice between candidates representing diverse political views."
http://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/ukraine/67015

edit: Sorry didn't see, won't continue offtopic.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 27 2014 22:48 GMT
#61
On March 28 2014 07:16 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 07:03 boxerfred wrote:
On March 28 2014 07:01 Undead1993 wrote:
On March 28 2014 06:49 boxerfred wrote:


"after their legitimately elected president" that guy literally was a marionette of Russia, believing anything else would be naive. Also, I don't want to pull out weird comparisons, but Hitler was elected in germany with like 97% or so for his party. Following your logic.. no, I won't follow your logic since that's too constructed. But sometimes, you have to stand up against things that just aren't right, and I guess ukraine basically did that.



this is historically wrong on so many levels, i can't even laugh


it's correct, but oversimplifying. I'm just trying to give that "legit president" quote a bitter taste. I know as good as you that this "election" didn't have any democratic elements and had lots of influences like violence, restrictions on other parties, terror etc.. I'm thinking about editing my post, since it's misleading (the "Reichstagswahl" of March 1933 was with ~40% for Hitler's party and in terms of the Weimar Republic legal) and too harsh at that point.

edit: just looked up. indeed that almost-100%-decision was about austria joining germany. my fail, and I am seriously sorry for that.

Except that's not true. Atleast according to the final OSCE report:

"The presidential election met most OSCE commitments and other international standards for democratic elections and consolidated progress achieved since 2004. The process was transparent and offered voters a genuine choice between candidates representing diverse political views."
http://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/ukraine/67015

edit: Sorry didn't see, won't continue offtopic.


This part refers to the german Machtergreifung of Hitler, not to the election of the ukrainian president. Sorry for the un-clearance.

won't continue off-topic, too .
Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
March 27 2014 22:54 GMT
#62
On March 28 2014 03:06 Pandemona wrote:
Interesting
Im guessing BlizzCon is before DH Winter grand finals thing as no WCS points to be given there? I heard a rumor that BlizzCon is confirmed already for this year so im guessing that is true.
Hoping this doesn't get in the way of any other tournaments aka GSL so we can have the best of the best playing :D

Only downside to this great announcement is they are using the same venues as last years tour? Be a bit more cool if they could change it up every year, of course always uses Sweden as the base But maybe Portugal could use some love? Or Italy? Or England etcetc, many destinations in Europe Using same ones year in year out seems a bit bm, especially when one of them is Russia where it is so much paperwork to get into the country.


It would be stupid to abandon great working partnerships with tested locations. Building routine for these events allow them to expand to more locations and build larger local DreamHack groups.
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MyrMindservant
Profile Joined October 2013
695 Posts
March 28 2014 00:38 GMT
#63
On March 28 2014 06:37 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 03:35 JessicaSc2 wrote:
On March 28 2014 03:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On March 28 2014 03:02 JessicaSc2 wrote:
Not watching dreamhack russia. Also I won't ever buy any products that are promoted on dreamhack Russia. Hopefully more people will solidarize with Ukrainians. Thank you for your support.


I sympathize with the Ukrainian people, but I'm not going to boycot an esports over it. But do what you want I guess.


If your country got invaded would you like that everybody just didn't care? Democratic nations should stand together against the tyranny. Doing dreamhack in Russia is like saying to everyone: nothing important is happening! Carry on! What if Russia annexes more Ukraine? Or the whole Ukraine? Will you still pretend that nothing is happening? What a farce. Russia should be thoroughly boycotted and ignored at least for now until the tensions get calmer.

You'd still call Ukraine a democratic nation after their legitimately elected president got overthrown even though the necessary majority to put him out of office has not been reached in parliament and with right-wing facists in the government?

How can people by so brainwashed/ignorant is beyond me. And you're not even from Russia so you don't have the excuse of not being able to know the real state of things.
Yanukovich was removed from presidency by 328 deputies when only 300 was necessary. Majority of his own party supported his removal. Also, contrary to Russian propaganda, there are no fascists in Ukrainian government.

I could explain all of it in detail and provide sources and proofs but this is offtopic here. You can PM me if you want.
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emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
March 28 2014 01:47 GMT
#64
On March 28 2014 03:22 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 03:02 JessicaSc2 wrote:
Not watching dreamhack russia. Also I won't ever buy any products that are promoted on dreamhack Russia. Hopefully more people will solidarize with Ukrainians. Thank you for your support.


I sympathize with the Ukrainian people, but I'm not going to boycot an esports over it. But do what you want I guess.


Funny thing is, most of the people in the area invaded are russian and welcomed the move...... So, boycotting doesn't really seem to be in anyone's best interest, since if u took a poll of the people truly effected, which has been done, most are in favour.
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Mad_Hero
Profile Joined February 2014
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-28 11:47:28
March 28 2014 11:43 GMT
#65
On March 28 2014 02:08 R1CH wrote:
Still planning to host in Russia?


Visit Russia before Russia visits you!
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 28 2014 12:30 GMT
#66
On March 28 2014 07:54 Darkdwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 03:06 Pandemona wrote:
Interesting
Im guessing BlizzCon is before DH Winter grand finals thing as no WCS points to be given there? I heard a rumor that BlizzCon is confirmed already for this year so im guessing that is true.
Hoping this doesn't get in the way of any other tournaments aka GSL so we can have the best of the best playing :D

Only downside to this great announcement is they are using the same venues as last years tour? Be a bit more cool if they could change it up every year, of course always uses Sweden as the base But maybe Portugal could use some love? Or Italy? Or England etcetc, many destinations in Europe Using same ones year in year out seems a bit bm, especially when one of them is Russia where it is so much paperwork to get into the country.


It would be stupid to abandon great working partnerships with tested locations. Building routine for these events allow them to expand to more locations and build larger local DreamHack groups.


Well ok, why would it be stupid to abandon the rest of Europe then? England Italy Germany (all be it they have IEM) France etc are all good locations that don't get used on tours much, no reason why they can't spread the love! Of course if say England drew less crowds than Romania then the following year you cut England, but to just keep the same places without trying others i think is a slight flaw.
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McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
March 30 2014 13:40 GMT
#67
Make it Dreamhack Gdańsk/Sopot (the venue is in two cities at once, +1 to awsomeness), problem solved, no need to thank me
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
March 30 2014 13:59 GMT
#68
Aw yisss, its Dreamhack soon baby!
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