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SPL R2 - KT Rolster's (Almost) Last Chance

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SPL R2 - KT Rolster's (Almost) Last Chance

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March 24th, 2014 22:20 GMT
SKPlanet PRoleague

Playoff Deathmatch:
KT Rolster vs. Prime

By: Waxangel

The playoff picture was about as confusing as possible as we headed into the final week of round 2, but the results have worked out to simplify things considerably. With IM defeating KT Rolster and CJ Entus beating SKT, three teams have confirmed their spots in the playoffs: Jin Air, MVP, and CJ Entus.

Only one playoff spot remains, which will go to one of KT Rolster, SK Telecom T1, or Incredible Miracle. With IM and SK Telecom having no games left to play, all that matters now is KT Rolster's performance in their final game against Prime. If they win by any score, they will advance by virtue of their 4-3 record. But if they should lose... We'll need to take a quick look at the table before we get to explaining.


Round 2 Standings
1.Jin Air5-217-10+7
2.MVP4-214-10+4
3.CJ Entus4-213-11+2
4.KT Rolster3-314-13+1
T-5.SKT3-413-14-1
T-5.IM3-413-14-1
7.Prime2-411-15-4 (-1)
8.Samsung2-59-17-8

(Numbers in parentheses are penalties)

Results and standings on Liquipedia
Videos on Youtube

March 23 Results


Incredible Miracle (3 - 1) KT Rolster
(P)HerO < Habitation Station LE > (T)Flash
(P)Trap < Polar Night LE > (P)Zest
(P)Squirtle < Yeonsu LE > (T)TY
(Z)ByuL < Outboxer > (P)Stats

CJ Entus (3 - 2) SK Telecom T1
(Z)EffOrt < Habitation Station LE > (P)Rain
(T)Bbyong < Polar Night LE > (P)Classic
(P)herO < Yeonsu LE > (P)PartinG
(Z)Hydra < Outboxer > (Z)Soulkey
Ace: (P)herO < Frost LE > (T)FanTaSy

Depending on the exact map scores, we could face a variety different situations:

  • If KT Rolster lose to Prime 2 - 3, they will tie IM and SKT in record but advance to the playoffs due to their better map score differential.

  • If KT Rolster lose to Prime 1 - 3, they will tie with IM and SKT in record AND map score differential, causing a three-way tie.

  • If KT Rolster lose to Prime 0 - 3, they will tie IM and SKT in record but be eliminated due to their worse map score. IM and SKT would be put in a two-way tie for 4th place. Although Prime would tie IM and SKT in record and map score, they would be eliminated due to their -1 penalty points (which count against map score).

  • Update! If Prime lose 0-3 to KT, then they would actually tie Samsung for last place. In that case, they would have to play a tie-breaker for 7th/8th place while KT advances to the playoffs.

If there is a need for tie-breakers, the format will be best-of-one matches between each team's selected players. Thus, a two way tie would be decided by a Bo1 match between each team's "ace" player. A three way tie would be resolved through a round-robin between the "ace" players of each team (in the case of a three-way tie, each team can pick a new ace for the next round of tiebreakers). Tie-breakers will be broadcasted as time allows. There is no guarantee that they will be streamed or broadcasted.

But in any case, SKT, IM, and anyone who's not a fan of KT will be eagerly anticipating the possibility of what could be an extremely tense series of tie-breakers.

Match Preview: Prime vs KT Rolster


Countdown:

(P)Creator < The King Sejong Station > (T)TY
(T)eins < Outboxer > (T)Flash
(T)MarineKing < Polar Night LE > (P)Stats
(P)State < Yeonsu LE > (P)Zest
Ace: Habitation Station LE

For all the incentives that have been put into the Proleague system to avoid 'meaningless' matches, Prime have nothing to directly gain by winning this match. No matter what, they're stuck in seventh place, unable to climb any higher or fall any lower. However, they have something to LOSE, with a 0-3 loss to KT Rolster tieing them for last place with Samsung (which would necessitate a rather inglorious tiebreaker). It would have been different if MarineKing could actually set his hotkeys before game instead of needing pauses after official match start, or if KeSPA had sensible rules regarding what you're allowed to type before you leave the game, but alas. It is what it is.

Not surprisingly, KT Rolster have brought their top team into the match. Ever since round 1, KT have been committed to the quartet of (T)TY - (T)Flash - (P)Zest - (P)Stats in nearly all of its matches, giving (Z)Action and (P)MyuNgSiK a rare spin out before shelving them for important matches.

Their opponents, Prime, have finally found a better strategy than just "play Creator." In Round 2, they've upgraded to the significantly more effective "play (P)Creator AND (T)MarineKing." With Creator and MKP going a combined 10-5 in Round 2, Prime almost had the foundation for a winning team. However, they faced a rather significant problem in that the rest of the roster contributed exactly one win. Jila and Kassia, for all the promise they showed in Round 1, just haven't delivered. (T)eins, the player who contributed that one win, has more than earned another appearance.

The fourth man for Prime is no other than North American player (P)State! Yup, for the first time in history, we might see a North American player sway the fate of KT Rolster. It's not especially shocking to see State take the spot over some other potential players like KassiA or Choya. He only got one chance to play in Proleague so far, and it was a somewhat forgivable loss to Classic's proxy gate. Everyone else is 0-2 or worse, leaving State and Jila as the only 0-1 players. So why not give the new kid a shot?

Prediction: Prime probably would have preferred 100% mirror matches, but the draws aren't the worst for them. The 3-1 victory to force tie-breakers seems highly unlikely, but they have a decent shot at forcing an ace match at least.

Both Creator and TY have given us mixed performances in PvT, and their match is a wash. Flash is clearly a big favorite against eins, but he's occasionally shown early game weaknesses that eins should look to exploit. MKP vs Stats looks to be a toss-up, with Stats not having played a PvT since January and MarineKing only having one, inconclusive loss to Rain. State is a huge underdog against Zest, but PvP is the matchup that offers the underdog the most hope. Even if eins and State lose as expected, it's not inconceivable and Creator and MKP will win their matches to send it to an ace match.

KT Rolster 3 - 1 Prime


Match Preview: CJ Entus vs MVP


Countdown:

(P)herO < Yeonsu LE > (T)KeeN
(T)Bbyong < Frost LE > (P)Super
(T)Bunny < The King Sejong Station > (Z)DongRaeGu
(Z)Hydra < Habitation Station LE > (T)Dream
Ace: Outboxer

While KT vs Prime is the higher stakes match in the short term, it's not like the CJ-MVP match isn't important as well. The winner of this match will clinch second place, awarding them a one-match bye in the round 2 playoffs. Not only that, but finishing position in individual rounds will be very important when deciding who makes it into the season-end playoffs (more details on the system).

CJ and MVP are similar in that they both bounced back from terrible performances in Round 1, and they've made their recoveries in similar ways. MVP is living up to its traditional reputation as a team that draws its strength from its depth. While it's true that they rely heavily on the one-two punch of (P)Super and (Z)DongRaeGu (8-5 in Round 2), everyone they've sent out as support has pulled their weight. The ever inconsistent (T)KeeN and (T)Dream are on an upswing this round, and captain (P)Swagger is pulling out incomprehensible, elfi-esque wins. (P)Billowy (aka Lure) has continued MVP's GSTL tradition of always having a random bench player who does unexpectedly well, going 2-0 in Round 2.

CJ Entus have also relied heavily on a power duo. Super-ace player (P)herO (5-2) was left high and dry many times in Round 1, but CJ Entus found him an unlikely right hand man in (T)Bbyong (4-1) to help lead the team to victory. CJ also have the workings of a strong supporting casts, with one of the team's underrated season highlights being the trio of Hydra-Bbyong-Bong defeating IM with herO absent due to IEM.

Unfortunately, CJ Entus suffers from a bizarre Zerg jinx. We all know how bad Hydra was in Round 1, where he recorded a league-worst 0-5 record. Though Hydra has improved since, his teammate (Z)EffOrt has matched him in Round 2 with an equally poor and winless performance. It's particularly unfortunate for CJ Entus because EffOrt is the only player besides herO and Bbyong who has been able to hold down a regular spot in the line-up, suggesting he is at least playing well in practice. But for whatever reason, he just can't bring his best play to the Proleague stage.

Prediction: For the aces on either team, things match up favorably. herO should feel fine going against nearly anyone in PvT, especially an inconsistent player like Keen. Meanwhile, DRG has looked great in his recent ZvT's against Flash and Cure, and he should be confident against the rarely fielded Bunny.

Super vs. Bbyong should be the key match of the night, and it's looking like it will be highly unpredictable. Super crumbled meekly to TY's surprise mine drop but looked strong (though not quite finesseful) in an ace match victory against Flash. In the past month, Bbyong has run the gamut from beating players like Classic, Zest and herO to losing to foreigners like ABomB. Depending on both player's form, we could see either a close match or one-sided stomp.

Hydra and Dream is another unpredictable series with inconsistent players, but I'm inclined to pick Dream as the winner. It hasn't been THAT long since Hydra went 0-5 in Round 1, and he still hasn't convinced us that he can reliably win in long games (his only late-game win this season was in an ugly match against Yonghwa). If anything, Dream has always been good at driving people crazy in the late game with his constant drops.

MVP 3 - 1 CJ Entus


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Writers: Waxangel
Images: SpoTV
Editors: Waxangel
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 24 2014 22:27 GMT
#2
Awesome writeup with some clarity on the scenarios that could unfold. Unfortunately now I have to root for Prime to win 3-0 or 3-1...
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Marcinko
Profile Joined May 2013
South Africa1014 Posts
March 24 2014 22:29 GMT
#3
Nothing against KT, but Prime, please win 3-0.
....
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 24 2014 22:29 GMT
#4
If keen can pull out another strategy like he did vs hurricane on habitation station it's a 3:0 imo.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 24 2014 22:33 GMT
#5
Prime winning 3-0 involves eins beating Flash.

yeahhhh idk
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 24 2014 22:34 GMT
#6
On March 25 2014 07:33 Dodgin wrote:
Prime winning 3-0 involves eins beating Flash.

yeahhhh idk

eins has the best career winning percentage of any terran in proleague
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Mambo
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark1338 Posts
March 24 2014 22:36 GMT
#7
A three way tie would be amazing.
Boxer | MVP | Taeja | TLO | Grubby | Bunny (danish)
Caladan
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany1238 Posts
March 24 2014 22:39 GMT
#8
GoGo KT!
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-24 22:44:59
March 24 2014 22:40 GMT
#9
I can definitely see Creator and MKP winning their matches they just need one of eins or State to pull a miracle.

As for the other match I love Super but I want Bbyong to win for FPL :/ I think it will go
herO > Keen
Bbyong > Super
Bunny < DongRaeGu
Hydra < Dream
herO > DRG in ace.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18385 Posts
March 24 2014 22:40 GMT
#10
I don't know if Flash is hugely favoured against eins...
His non-TvZ matchups are very inconsistent
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 24 2014 22:43 GMT
#11
80% sure it will be a 3:0 for kt, 90% sure it's going to be a 3:1 for mvp, with herO taking the only game.

We will see
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1966 Posts
March 24 2014 22:47 GMT
#12
I do not like KT but i guess they will win.
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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 24 2014 22:48 GMT
#13
If IM somehow manages to make playoffs then 3/4 of last round's playoff teams will not be in the playoffs this round. That is pretty sick.

Also Prime needs to figure out how to not get penalty points.
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prabhbhambra13
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom424 Posts
March 24 2014 22:49 GMT
#14
Prime! I believe in you!
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
March 24 2014 22:53 GMT
#15
KT 3-1 no problem.
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monsta
Profile Joined November 2012
172 Posts
March 24 2014 22:53 GMT
#16
please ALL-KILL Prime!!! i want IM in the playoffs :D
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
March 24 2014 22:54 GMT
#17
PRIME
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7288 Posts
March 24 2014 22:56 GMT
#18
If there is any deity out there in this universe Prime will 3-0 KT.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 24 2014 22:59 GMT
#19
On March 25 2014 07:56 Zambrah wrote:
If there is any deity out there in this universe Prime will 3-0 KT.

Well...

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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
March 24 2014 22:59 GMT
#20
I will laugh if KT lose 3-0, srsly.
But imagine the hype if Prime is ahead 2-1 and State is going against Code S Ro4 guy to determine SKT T1 and IM destiny this round.
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