Naniwa released from Alliance - Page 15

On March 21 2014 23:30 Morphage wrote:


Yeah you can say that Huk, Idra, Jinro, Mana, Nerchio and Thorzain were among the best foreigners, but Naniwa and Stephano are a tier above in my opinion. And to be honest I don't think Jinro's achievements have that much weight considering the players who attended the MLG he won. As for his GSL semi finals, sure that's cool, but the game was in it's very early stages and after that he dropped off quite rapidly.

On March 21 2014 23:25 Scorch wrote:
Naniwa forfeited the tournament, which was a huge affront to the organizers

On March 21 2014 23:39 Xoronius wrote:

A valid opinion, I´m a bit unsure about it as well, since there are different things, you have to wage against eachother. Going purely by big tourney wins, HuK has an edge against Naniwa, if you go by earnings, Naniwa is hugely ahead against him. Jinro is also a weird case, since he has only one big tourney win and 27k earnings, but GSL is so big, that I feel, he does'nt get enough credit just by quantitative factors I'd say, if I take a while longer my ranking would probably look like this:

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Could we agree on that?

On March 21 2014 23:41 Sakray wrote:


This is absolutely bullshit, if forfeiting is a huge affront, then why do they give the right to do so to the players ?

Jeez

On March 21 2014 23:25 Scorch wrote:
Naniwa forfeited the tournament, which was a huge affront to the organizers

On March 21 2014 23:50 Kennigit wrote:

Dont be dumb. We were ready to replace Taeja two days earlier because he thought his hands may be too bad to play. We literally replaced the best CS:GO analyst in the world ON THE DAY OF THE EVENT. We're really really good at improvising and making shit work - if a player doesn't want to play, it's ok. We just replace him. Jarett Cale wasn't involved in the event until we fired Thorin....it was all improvised and put together in the final hours to make the event work...it was a miracle that he was on site. Shit happens. We deal with it. If a player doesn't want to play we can and will replace him with someone who does.

Watch this magic:
Naniwa: "I dont want to play"
ESL: "Jaedong want a direct invite to fix the problem?"
Jaedong: "Yes"

Tada. There's no ''affront''. This isn't kespa. We just want to make make cool shit so people can enjoy it.

On March 21 2014 16:31 iNcontroL wrote:
nope.. actually Rotterdam and I are very different!

On March 21 2014 21:44 Odecey wrote:
I feel compelled to put a few things straight here. Firstly, Naniwa did not do anything wrong by forfeiting against Polt. It's completely within each player's rights to forfeit for whatever reason.

The question is whether he did something wrong by retiring before his contract was up. If the contract stipulates that the contractee cannot terminate it himself, then forcing this on Alliancce was wrong. If it did not however, then there is insufficient information to decide whether he was in the wrong on this point. We don't know when/how Naniwa informed his team that he was no longer playing. If he did this when he stopped, the situation at IEM should never have occured: Alliance should merely have released him then, when he expressed he had no intention to keep playing.

Naniwa is completely right when points out that he was not required to transfer his spot at IEM, after it became clear to him that he did not want to compete. Such a decision is up to the event organizer, who determines the criteria for competing, who according to Naniwa were informed that he did not wish to participate. When they pressured him into going, they set themselves up for this to happen.

I also want to address the hate mongering that has surrounded Naniwa ever since he entered the scene: It's pathetic how the community at large have assigned him as a punchingbag because of his demeanor, frankness, and impulsiveness. These personality traits do not give you a licence to bully a person. By doing so, you're starting a vicious cycle where he will respond spontaneusly and emotionally, which will set him up for further abuse. All these comments of "I hate him" "Has he been diagnosed yet?" "What a loser." are frankly cruel, and ironically go way beyond any wrongdoing he may have committed. The willingness of every forumgoer and his dog to jump on every situation he handles suboptimally, with the contempt of someone witnessing a warcrime, is a cyber assault of negativity, and you wonder why he calls this community disgusting? The hypocracy is so ripe you can taste it.

I'm glad he's leaving. He will be better off out of the microscope people have put him under, free to be himself without all this judgement.

This will probably be a good time for me to leave aswell, in the sense that I won't be posting here ever again. Unfortunately, it still seems like the best place to find tournament results, schedules, etc, so I guess I'll still be using that.

Don't ever think this place is above the standards of the internet at large: It's not.

On March 21 2014 23:25 Scorch wrote:
Naniwa stopped playing the game while he still had a contract going.
Naniwa was unwilling to fulfill his contractual obligations, so they had to push him to play in the tournament.
Naniwa publicly announced he's quitting SC2.
Naniwa forfeited the tournament, which was a huge affront to the organizers and fans and damaged his own reputation and that of his team and sponsors.

Of course Alliance releases him. What's there to discuss?

On March 22 2014 00:10 amd098 wrote:



Yep, you try this with any other job and you'll be fired. Unprofessional and childish behavior.

On March 22 2014 00:12 Furikawari wrote:

Exactly. What some people here dont get (and amongst them obviously, Naniwa), is that it's a JOB. You have to be a professional, not an arrogant child.