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TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 10:19:57
March 21 2014 07:07 GMT
#1
Post from NaNiwa in his fanclub:

On March 21 2014 09:54 Naniwa wrote:
everything that happened was extremly silly, to be honest i told my team atleast 5 times that i didnt want to go and that they should make iem get a replacement for me. but my team didnt agree with this and also IEM said that they would highly recommend me to go or there would be consequenses ( this is what my team told me )

i would ofcourse not want to go to waste my time playing a tournament in a game i dont even practice anymore as it was a huge waste of time but as i said i was forced to because of SPONSOR Things, and ironically enough i got kicked out of the team for going there and doing what i did when i didnt even wanna go or play sc2 in the first place funnily enough. but whatever im not sad and i dont really care anymore about that, im sure that if i practice 2 weeks in the future i can make the comeback as the best foreign player at any time if i feel like it.

its a bit funny tho that ppl think other people deserve the spot ( Yes i wanted to give it away cuz i didnt wanna play the tour ) but i won it fair and square by going top2 at newyork, if other people wouldve "deserved it" then they could learn to qualify to tournaments by their own skill

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-HuShang-
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada393 Posts
March 21 2014 07:11 GMT
#2
Maybe, maybe not, but it sure is a convenient excuse to kick him off if he isn't playing starcraft 2 anymore. Food for thought ;D
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DarKFoRcE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1215 Posts
March 21 2014 07:12 GMT
#3
If he isnt playing anymore there wouldnt be much of a point for him to stay in a team anyway, no?
Seems reasonable to me.
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DaftFunk
Profile Joined June 2013
194 Posts
March 21 2014 07:13 GMT
#4
okay, but i can name 5 people at the top of my head that dont deserve to be on EG anymore if you are saying playing/practice is the issue
cookiz
Profile Joined March 2013
Burma181 Posts
March 21 2014 07:15 GMT
#5
sad...
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Shinobi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
1605 Posts
March 21 2014 07:17 GMT
#6
He sure as hell deserves it. I was always a fan of Naniwa but he is just too "uninformed" (to put it lightly) to see why he needs to be at that tournament.
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jSwany
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5 Posts
March 21 2014 07:23 GMT
#7
He sure does deserve to be kicked. Saying you don't want to go to your job + *I didn't practice for something I qualified for* is the biggest piss poor excuse ever.
Wormi
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany181 Posts
March 21 2014 07:26 GMT
#8
On March 21 2014 16:13 DaftFunk wrote:
okay, but i can name 5 people at the top of my head that dont deserve to be on EG anymore if you are saying playing/practice is the issue


but those guys are either smart, sexy or likeable in general. put a monster drink in their hand and people will be like, damn, i wanna drink it, too.
naniwa is just a good starcraft player, as long as he practices.
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Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 07:29:56
March 21 2014 07:26 GMT
#9
Smart idea getting kicked off, this way he doesn't have post-retirement streaming hours to make up.

On March 21 2014 16:13 DaftFunk wrote:
okay, but i can name 5 people at the top of my head that dont deserve to be on EG anymore if you are saying playing/practice is the issue


Machine is no longer on EG, he was a house manager and then quit to go back to school.

iNcontroL is on EG the way Rotterdam is on ROOT.

Thorzain is actually likable and will one day be the first EG-sponsored doctor.

Stephano is caught in some sort of endless feedback loop of constantly needing more streaming hours, fortunately he has found a way to fill those hours with the fewest amount of games possible.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
March 21 2014 07:31 GMT
#10
nope.. actually Rotterdam and I are very different!
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 21 2014 07:32 GMT
#11
On March 21 2014 16:31 iNcontroL wrote:
nope.. actually Rotterdam and I are very different!


Oh sweet I didn't know you could be summoned TB-style!
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
March 21 2014 07:32 GMT
#12
Hes under contract and hes representing the company. What he done was embarrassing to the event holders and the sponsors. He could have at least went out in a professional manner and not looking like a child, its time he grew up.

I dont feel sorry for this guy one bit, nor should anyone else tbh and with luck hes career in SC2 and E-Sports is finished,, then he can get a real job, perhaps serving burgers at MacDonalds as i don't think going what of i have seen of him that he has ether the temperament or intelligence to work with other people reliably. Saying that his customer facing skills are appalling so he probably couldnt even do that.

Dont feel sorry for him one bit, good riddance !!!
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
March 21 2014 07:34 GMT
#13
As much as i liked Naniwa as a player, this is just not professional at all.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
March 21 2014 07:38 GMT
#14
For a dude who apparently left the game and scene he sure is lingering around a long time...
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
March 21 2014 07:39 GMT
#15
On March 21 2014 16:13 DaftFunk wrote:
okay, but i can name 5 people at the top of my head that dont deserve to be on EG anymore if you are saying playing/practice is the issue

Incontrol has value to EG that's worth far more than just his skill as a player. Others as well.

Players(employees) are ultimately accountable to the company. If they provide ROI, then they're kept. If they're negative, but could provide future value, then they could still be kept. If they're actively lowering the value of the company(naniwa's actions), then the asset needs to be cut loose.

Naniwa could've tried hard, dropped out without winning a map and it would've have been that big of a deal. Putting in zero effort and then his actions afterwards doesn't just hurt his value as a player, it hurts the team he's on and the sponsors.
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Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
March 21 2014 07:40 GMT
#16
On March 21 2014 16:39 Amui wrote:
Incontrol has value to EG that's worth far more than just his skill as a player. Others as well.


I tried to say this but he seemed offended. :<
cywinr
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada173 Posts
March 21 2014 07:40 GMT
#17
You get sponsored to play a game. You stop playing it. You stop getting sponsored. Makes sense to me. What's wrong Naniwa?
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
March 21 2014 07:45 GMT
#18
On March 21 2014 16:40 Cheren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 16:39 Amui wrote:
Incontrol has value to EG that's worth far more than just his skill as a player. Others as well.


I tried to say this but he seemed offended. :<

I think what he meant was that while he does a lot of stuff for EG in terms of his marketing power, Rotti is part of Root as just as a friend thing and that Rotti's branding is reserved solely for Rotti (ie, when he gets jobs he gets them as Kevin, not as an employee of ROOT) so you dont see him pushing Root sponsor stuff.
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
March 21 2014 07:47 GMT
#19
Responsibility: a useful skill toi have.
calh
Profile Joined March 2013
537 Posts
March 21 2014 07:48 GMT
#20
It's understandable if he didn't want to go. But if he really didn't care, why make those excuses when his proxy was found? Losing would have suit him just fine, since he would just get to be out early. There was no reason to create drama and cause a delay to the tournament if he didn't even want to be there in the first place.
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