EPTNaniwa released from Alliance - Page 4
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ThePlagueJG
Sweden1010 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On March 21 2014 16:40 cywinr wrote: You get sponsored to play a game. You stop playing it. You stop getting sponsored. Makes sense to me. What's wrong Naniwa? Where did he say there was anything wrong? He specifically says that he doesn't care about getting kicked off the team. | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
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Fuzzmosis
Canada752 Posts
On March 21 2014 18:01 Seiniyta wrote: Although I perfectly understand why Naniwa was kicked from Alliance I don't understand a few things. Why was Alliance insisting Naniwa to go knowing he wasn't practicing nor didn't want to go there? Alliance could have saved themselves headace by amically terminating the contract instead of causing damage to the Alliance brand. Although Naniwa's behaviour at IEM was unacceptable it does makes me think a bit less of Alliance in general. That being said, this is Naniwa's explanation and it isn't almost the most reliable. This is based on pure speculation, seeing as I'm not a pro gamer, never have been, no idea what the contracts entail: Naniwa's contract states he will attend all competitions he is requested to go to. I imagine there are provisions for people who want/need time off, but in a short time frame, they still have competitive obligations to be met and some cannot be skipped due to timing or importance. (I.E, IEM's own rules and they may have team based penalties for not complying) Alliance/EG's sponsors request presence at as many tournaments as possible, in a positive light. Therefore, it is an obligation or in Alliance/EG's interest for Naniwa to attend, even just in round of 32 to get the name and presence in front of thousands of people as a professional, skilled gamer. Naniwa goes "Derp". He's 24, and acts like he's 14. If he wasn't good at SC2, he'd be anonymous. In both meanings. | ||
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Penev
28536 Posts
He thought you were trolling. Unfortunately for you, you weren't. Or he new and he makes fun of you. | ||
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
On March 21 2014 18:44 Fuzzmosis wrote: This is based on pure speculation, seeing as I'm not a pro gamer, never have been, no idea what the contracts entail: Naniwa's contract states he will attend all competitions he is requested to go to. I imagine there are provisions for people who want/need time off, but in a short time frame, they still have competitive obligations to be met and some cannot be skipped due to timing or importance. Alliance/EG's sponsors request presence at as many tournaments as possible, in a positive light. Therefore, it is an obligation or in Alliance/EG's interest for Naniwa to attend, even just in round of 32 to get the name and presence in front of thousands of people as a professional, skilled gamer. Naniwa goes "Derp". He's 24, and acts like he's 14. If he wasn't good at SC2, he'd be anonymous. In both meanings. It is all possible due to the player. Let's not forget it is Alliance/EG that wanted Nani on their team, not the other way around. Nani went, and didnt just derp as you put it. He gave a legitimate reason why he forfeit. Yet haters still spread misinformation (like a 10yr old). No wonder he calls this community a disgrace, because it actually is. Nani has my support in the past and the future. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On March 21 2014 18:39 RotterdaM wrote: Actually you and me Geoff. We have more in common than you think. We both play the dirtiest style of protoss. LOVE YOUUUUUUUUUU | ||
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TheFlexN
Israel472 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Also incontroll and rotterdam are the same person obviously | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On March 21 2014 18:39 RotterdaM wrote: Actually you and me Geoff. We have more in common than you think. We both play the dirtiest style of protoss. Geoff plays 1 base proxy tempest now? Gotta see this | ||
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
On March 21 2014 16:07 DaftFunk wrote: latest post from Johan: so what he did was bad, but i dont know if he desrves to be kicked off of alliance/eg. He broke like every rule of the blizzard WCS rules so he should be punished sure. But the "there will be consequences" is : WTF ? The guy wants to quit. And threatened him ? I mean, i really don't like Naniwa. I REALLY DON'T. But this is fucked up to threaten a guy... If you want to fire him. Fire him. The guy said he didn't want to do that job anymore. So you break contract. You don't force him. But Naniwa is bad publicity (like iDra was. Strangly i like iDra) but you deal with it. Maybe alliance wasn't prepared enough to absorb the shitstorm Naniwa could create. Naniwa is a really good player. A bad sportmanship and e-sport representative. But you don't kick a guy after threateing him to do something. This is bad management. But we only have one part of the story... On March 21 2014 18:29 Peqqz wrote: That was pretty rude. I dont know if this helps this Disscusion Well. I wouldn't buy any products too. This is not Rude (well it kind of is :p :p) but if i don't like something/someone, why would i give them money ? | ||
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Niejadek
United States13 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
i am sure not ... | ||
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TT1
Canada10095 Posts
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b0rt_
Norway931 Posts
On March 21 2014 18:51 TheFlexN wrote: This doesnt sound surprising to me but it doesnt make me happy, if he is taking a long break, leaving the team would happen one way or another. It sucks that it ends with such negativity and that people will remember more him leaving IEM more than him having some of the best results of non-korean players last year. + Show Spoiler + Also incontroll and rotterdam are the same person obviously It was always going to end this way, if he left gracefully he would have to come back and throw a few spanners in the works for good measure. | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3818 Posts
On March 21 2014 18:52 FFW_Rude wrote: He broke like every rule of the blizzard WCS rules so he should be punished sure. But the "there will be consequences" is : WTF ? The guy wants to quit. And threatened him ? I mean, i really don't like Naniwa. I REALLY DON'T. But this is fucked up to threaten a guy... If you want to fire him. Fire him. The guy said he didn't want to do that job anymore. So you break contract. You don't force him. But Naniwa is bad publicity (like iDra was. Strangly i like iDra) but you deal with it. Maybe alliance wasn't prepared enough to absorb the shitstorm Naniwa could create. Naniwa is a really good player. A bad sportmanship and e-sport representative. But you don't kick a guy after threateing him to do something. This is bad management. But we only have one part of the story... Well. I wouldn't buy any products too. This is not Rude (well it kind of is :p :p) but if i don't like something/someone, why would i give them money ? Lol. He was asked to do his job, and he didn't. Of course you tell him to do it, and fire him when he behaves like a spoiled child. | ||
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xluik
201 Posts
On March 21 2014 18:44 Fuzzmosis wrote: This is based on pure speculation, seeing as I'm not a pro gamer, never have been, no idea what the contracts entail: Naniwa's contract states he will attend all competitions he is requested to go to. I imagine there are provisions for people who want/need time off, but in a short time frame, they still have competitive obligations to be met and some cannot be skipped due to timing or importance. (I.E, IEM's own rules and they may have team based penalties for not complying) Alliance/EG's sponsors request presence at as many tournaments as possible, in a positive light. Therefore, it is an obligation or in Alliance/EG's interest for Naniwa to attend, even just in round of 32 to get the name and presence in front of thousands of people as a professional, skilled gamer. Naniwa goes "Derp". He's 24, and acts like he's 14. If he wasn't good at SC2, he'd be anonymous. In both meanings. if we are all technical about it, he did attend the tournament xD | ||
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ETisME
12890 Posts
On March 21 2014 18:52 FFW_Rude wrote: He broke like every rule of the blizzard WCS rules so he should be punished sure. But the "there will be consequences" is : WTF ? The guy wants to quit. And threatened him ? I mean, i really don't like Naniwa. I REALLY DON'T. But this is fucked up to threaten a guy... If you want to fire him. Fire him. The guy said he didn't want to do that job anymore. So you break contract. You don't force him. But Naniwa is bad publicity (like iDra was. Strangly i like iDra) but you deal with it. Maybe alliance wasn't prepared enough to absorb the shitstorm Naniwa could create. Naniwa is a really good player. A bad sportmanship and e-sport representative. But you don't kick a guy after threateing him to do something. This is bad management. But we only have one part of the story... Well. I wouldn't buy any products too. This is not Rude (well it kind of is :p :p) but if i don't like something/someone, why would i give them money ? You can and you should. If my boss asks me to do something that I don't want to do, I wouldn't make a complete mess of what is asked. There is an acceptable level of performance, using my own example, I don't want to negotiate price with Chinese factory because my Mandarin isn't great, but I certainly would at least make some sort of progress instead of calling the factory and slam.them with a stupid price and expect I will be fine. | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On March 21 2014 18:05 Torte de Lini wrote:
Yeah. Some people just fit into some roles. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
At least he tried to give away the tournament spot, that would have been the right thing to do. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On March 21 2014 18:59 Grovbolle wrote: Lol. He was asked to do his job, and he didn't. Of course you tell him to do it, and fire him when he behaves like a spoiled child. How did he behave like a spoiled child? He was trying to retire, but was forced to play in the tournament anyway, despite being completely unprepared and not wanting to play. He felt the conditions were unfair, so he dropped out. | ||
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but whatever im not sad and i dont really care anymore about that, im sure that if i practice 2 weeks in the future i can make the comeback as the best foreign player at any time if i feel like it. 
