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Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
January 06 2014 23:51 GMT
#881
On January 07 2014 08:48 playa wrote:
If these players didn't meet the requirements today, how are they going to meet them in a week? Roughly 200 wins in a week? Have fun with that. Going to be so much "circumvention" and cheese. May as well just forgo having rules this qualifier.

they changed it to be added between current and last season, even though the admins said otherwise at the start of the tournament.
@QxGDarkCell ._.
HeadlessWonder
Profile Joined January 2013
United States1096 Posts
January 06 2014 23:51 GMT
#882
On January 07 2014 08:44 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 08:39 Shellshock wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:39 dogmeatstew wrote:
So do all those players that were DQ`d now have an extra week to get their 200 ladder wins?

It seems like that's the plan so they have more than 21 people in the qualifiers


And that's just complete BS. The few who did read the rules and got 200 wins in time should be rewarded, don't give the lazy, uninformed ones another chance. Those guys have to grow up and become a pro at some point. Stop feeding them with a spoon.

This exactly. I hope they find a reward for the 21 guys who showed up ready to play. Give them a bye or two, maybe make sure Hitman and sWs can't play Bomber and Check for as long as possible. I can't believe they didn't just go ahead and play the qualifier after making these guys wait.
CIS Doto
Noobity
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States871 Posts
January 06 2014 23:51 GMT
#883
On January 07 2014 07:14 Dark.Carnival wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 07:10 Noobity wrote:
On January 07 2014 07:05 ooATTACKoo wrote:
On January 07 2014 06:45 ivancype wrote:
400 games (50% win ratio) is nothing in a 2 month season and if you are seriously dedicated.

This situation just shows how amateur the NA scene is, (not all) players doesn't know the rules of the tournament they are attending, teams not giving proper support to players, and tournament organizers cant effectively put in practice their own rules


I can not agree more, I thought the same when I read the tweet from catz:
Tweet:
Ladder WildCard qualifier's bracket's so bad (and Short), seems like not many people knew about it/signed up. #WCSNA


They are calling themself pros and forget to mark the most important qualifiers in their calendars?

Just a service link: Qualifier Dates


That link also provides the interesting:

Players with 200 wins on the region’s host ladder (“Americas” server for WCS America and “Europe” server for WCS Europe) in this and the past season (cumulative between the two Seasons) will be eligible to compete in Ladder Wildcard Qualifiers for all remaining spots without meeting any residency or citizenship requirements.

So it is cumulative 200 wins between the 2 seasons.

This link doesn't say it's combined; http://nasl.tv/News/Article/20131221wcs-america-2014-season-1-qualifier-information

"The Ladder Qualifier is available for players who are Masters or higher on the North American server with at least 200 wins in the current or previous season."


I'd trust the Blizzard specific site over the NASL site.
My name is Mike, and statistically, yours is not.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-06 23:52:28
January 06 2014 23:52 GMT
#884
On January 07 2014 08:46 Dodgin wrote:
Fucking Bomber managed to figure out that he needed 200 wins on NA, and he got them. But apparently players that can actually read the English player handbook couldn't do it. Too busy crying about Protoss or the new maps on Reddit I guess.

Yes, it's ridiculous. The players that were able to play today should have a HUGE advantage next week.

On January 07 2014 08:45 Yhamm wrote:
I would like to see TeamLiquid doing a news about these 2 qualifiers done by NASL this year... and talk ab out how bad it already was for season 3 last year.
it's cool to give results and talk about matches, but there is work to be done here too I think

What happened in season 3 ? Don't remember.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
January 06 2014 23:52 GMT
#885
On January 07 2014 08:47 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 08:46 Zealously wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:34 Aeromi wrote:


I wonder if Blizzard put the foot down


I hope Blizzard puts the foot in NASLs asses and gets another organzier even though i have no idea who


No. NASL is a good tournament organiser, except at the moment apparently. There is no viable alternative save for maybe MLG or a completely new part, and neither option seems very reasonable or very attractive at the moment.
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Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
January 06 2014 23:53 GMT
#886
On January 07 2014 08:51 SinCitta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 08:39 Wintex wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:37 NovaMB wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:36 Wintex wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:31 SinCitta wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:22 NovaMB wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:20 mikkmagro wrote:
that bracket looks so pathetic (no offence intended to the players actually competing in it)...where are the so-called pros in the American region who have been talking about not having opportunities to compete?
Demuslim, Xenocider, Illusion, Kane, hellokitty, hendralisk, minigun, catz, jimrising......

Busy complaining about new maps on twitter.

No idea the WCS site lists 200 cumulative wins. I dont know how they couldnt get that, especially with the new maps and everything they needed to get a feel for in the last days


Not trying to defend the sloppiness for anyone that does that for a living, but generally for anything SC2 related: Organizers, if you do an open qualifier, make a thread on TL with all the relevant info if there isn't already one. Nobody looks on your shitty websites.

If you can't seriously click a link ON ONE SITE. Seriously. It took me 1,5 min to find all the info on NASL.TV.

It's not hard. Thorin was so right. It saddens me.

#givekoreamoresupportblizzard.

The problem is the info on the NASL site is not consistent with the info on the WCS site.

I don't see the difficulty in COMMUNICATING that if it's the case. They used that much time QQ'ing about Daedalus Point when they could have used 1 of the tweets to ask... The top koreans QQ'ed and won.


My remark was more aimed at organizers trying to ignore TL as the major community hub in general, also regarding that IPL Satellite EU qualifier. Communication is much easier when that happens on a central hub. If I don't know that something is about to happen, I don't know that I have to look it up. But everybody checks TL.net daily, so when a thread pops up, I know that I have to look it up. It shouldn't be too hard to put some intern to that task and the fact that we talk in this thread ("registration open") instead of a proper LR or official announcement thread bears witness for it.

Again, not trying to defend the players that are (semi-)pro here, but sometimes I have the feeling that organizers don't want people to know about their stuff.

TL featured the rulebook for WCS, the 200 wins restriction was in there, right?
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-06 23:54:18
January 06 2014 23:53 GMT
#887
On January 07 2014 08:46 SamuraiX- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 08:42 nkr wrote:
guys the solution is clearly that american players need more money, otherwise they cant afford an education to read the rules

koreans have such an advantage

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 08:44 Musicus wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:39 Shellshock wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:39 dogmeatstew wrote:
So do all those players that were DQ`d now have an extra week to get their 200 ladder wins?

It seems like that's the plan so they have more than 21 people in the qualifiers


And that's just complete BS. The few who did read the rules and got 200 wins in time should be rewarded, don't give the lazy, uninformed ones another chance. Those guys have to grow up and become a pro at some point. Stop feeding them with a spoon.

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 08:46 Dodgin wrote:
Fucking Bomber managed to figure out that he needed 200 wins on NA, and he got them. But apparently players that can actually read the English player handbook couldn't do it. Too busy crying about Protoss or the new maps on Reddit I guess.


Honestly, this.

All of this fuckery would've probably been avoided if hopeful participants gave enough of a shit to read the rules.

Thought I'm still incredibly disappointed in the NASL crew for not communicating anything with anybody which just wasted three hours of our time and more importantly the time of the progamers involved.


Woah, woah, woah... how about you calm down and take a deep breath. maybe even a few deep breaths. Are you calm now? Good. Then I have to ask you: Why the hell would you ever think that Bomber cannot actually read the English player handbook, Dodgin?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-06 23:55:52
January 06 2014 23:55 GMT
#888
On January 07 2014 08:53 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 08:46 SamuraiX- wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:42 nkr wrote:
guys the solution is clearly that american players need more money, otherwise they cant afford an education to read the rules

koreans have such an advantage

On January 07 2014 08:44 Musicus wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:39 Shellshock wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:39 dogmeatstew wrote:
So do all those players that were DQ`d now have an extra week to get their 200 ladder wins?

It seems like that's the plan so they have more than 21 people in the qualifiers


And that's just complete BS. The few who did read the rules and got 200 wins in time should be rewarded, don't give the lazy, uninformed ones another chance. Those guys have to grow up and become a pro at some point. Stop feeding them with a spoon.

On January 07 2014 08:46 Dodgin wrote:
Fucking Bomber managed to figure out that he needed 200 wins on NA, and he got them. But apparently players that can actually read the English player handbook couldn't do it. Too busy crying about Protoss or the new maps on Reddit I guess.


Honestly, this.

All of this fuckery would've probably been avoided if hopeful participants gave enough of a shit to read the rules.

Thought I'm still incredibly disappointed in the NASL crew for not communicating anything with anybody which just wasted three hours of our time and more importantly the time of the progamers involved.


Woah, woah, woah... how about you calm down and take a deep breath. maybe even a few deep breaths. Are you calm now? Good. Then I have to ask you: Why the hell would you ever think that Bomber cannot actually read the English player handbook, Dodgin?


I think we can say with reasonable certainty that Bomber will have a lot more trouble reading an English rulebook than an NA progamer. Whether or not the rulebook was translated for Bomber in full is another thing, but as far as I know Bomber's English is far from perfect and the wording in the rulebook was pretty complicated relative to the level of English I've seen from him.

Unless there's a handbook readily available in Korean?
AdministratorBreak the chains
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
January 06 2014 23:55 GMT
#889
It's really sad how the once blooming NA scene has more or less decomposed in front of our eyes the last few years.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
January 06 2014 23:56 GMT
#890
On January 07 2014 08:52 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 08:46 Dodgin wrote:
Fucking Bomber managed to figure out that he needed 200 wins on NA, and he got them. But apparently players that can actually read the English player handbook couldn't do it. Too busy crying about Protoss or the new maps on Reddit I guess.

Yes, it's ridiculous. The players that were able to play today should have a HUGE advantage next week.

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 08:45 Yhamm wrote:
I would like to see TeamLiquid doing a news about these 2 qualifiers done by NASL this year... and talk ab out how bad it already was for season 3 last year.
it's cool to give results and talk about matches, but there is work to be done here too I think

What happened in season 3 ? Don't remember.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=429753

i'd say 2014 so far has actually been worse
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 06 2014 23:57 GMT
#891
On January 07 2014 08:53 Niko_Thien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 08:51 SinCitta wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:39 Wintex wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:37 NovaMB wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:36 Wintex wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:31 SinCitta wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:22 NovaMB wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:20 mikkmagro wrote:
that bracket looks so pathetic (no offence intended to the players actually competing in it)...where are the so-called pros in the American region who have been talking about not having opportunities to compete?
Demuslim, Xenocider, Illusion, Kane, hellokitty, hendralisk, minigun, catz, jimrising......

Busy complaining about new maps on twitter.

No idea the WCS site lists 200 cumulative wins. I dont know how they couldnt get that, especially with the new maps and everything they needed to get a feel for in the last days


Not trying to defend the sloppiness for anyone that does that for a living, but generally for anything SC2 related: Organizers, if you do an open qualifier, make a thread on TL with all the relevant info if there isn't already one. Nobody looks on your shitty websites.

If you can't seriously click a link ON ONE SITE. Seriously. It took me 1,5 min to find all the info on NASL.TV.

It's not hard. Thorin was so right. It saddens me.

#givekoreamoresupportblizzard.

The problem is the info on the NASL site is not consistent with the info on the WCS site.

I don't see the difficulty in COMMUNICATING that if it's the case. They used that much time QQ'ing about Daedalus Point when they could have used 1 of the tweets to ask... The top koreans QQ'ed and won.


My remark was more aimed at organizers trying to ignore TL as the major community hub in general, also regarding that IPL Satellite EU qualifier. Communication is much easier when that happens on a central hub. If I don't know that something is about to happen, I don't know that I have to look it up. But everybody checks TL.net daily, so when a thread pops up, I know that I have to look it up. It shouldn't be too hard to put some intern to that task and the fact that we talk in this thread ("registration open") instead of a proper LR or official announcement thread bears witness for it.

Again, not trying to defend the players that are (semi-)pro here, but sometimes I have the feeling that organizers don't want people to know about their stuff.

TL featured the rulebook for WCS, the 200 wins restriction was in there, right?

Yes. It was there and people seemed pretty supportive of it since it was going to get the Koreans to at least play on the American ladder for a bit
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-06 23:58:26
January 06 2014 23:57 GMT
#892
On January 07 2014 08:53 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 08:46 SamuraiX- wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:42 nkr wrote:
guys the solution is clearly that american players need more money, otherwise they cant afford an education to read the rules

koreans have such an advantage

On January 07 2014 08:44 Musicus wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:39 Shellshock wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:39 dogmeatstew wrote:
So do all those players that were DQ`d now have an extra week to get their 200 ladder wins?

It seems like that's the plan so they have more than 21 people in the qualifiers


And that's just complete BS. The few who did read the rules and got 200 wins in time should be rewarded, don't give the lazy, uninformed ones another chance. Those guys have to grow up and become a pro at some point. Stop feeding them with a spoon.

On January 07 2014 08:46 Dodgin wrote:
Fucking Bomber managed to figure out that he needed 200 wins on NA, and he got them. But apparently players that can actually read the English player handbook couldn't do it. Too busy crying about Protoss or the new maps on Reddit I guess.


Honestly, this.

All of this fuckery would've probably been avoided if hopeful participants gave enough of a shit to read the rules.

Thought I'm still incredibly disappointed in the NASL crew for not communicating anything with anybody which just wasted three hours of our time and more importantly the time of the progamers involved.


Woah, woah, woah... how about you calm down and take a deep breath. maybe even a few deep breaths. Are you calm now? Good. Then I have to ask you: Why the hell would you ever think that Bomber cannot actually read the English player handbook, Dodgin?


Well, he probably could, but the point was he's not even a NA player and he managed to figure out what he has to do.

This just shows who the real " pro gamers " are.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-06 23:59:38
January 06 2014 23:58 GMT
#893
On January 07 2014 08:55 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 08:53 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:46 SamuraiX- wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:42 nkr wrote:
guys the solution is clearly that american players need more money, otherwise they cant afford an education to read the rules

koreans have such an advantage

On January 07 2014 08:44 Musicus wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:39 Shellshock wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:39 dogmeatstew wrote:
So do all those players that were DQ`d now have an extra week to get their 200 ladder wins?

It seems like that's the plan so they have more than 21 people in the qualifiers


And that's just complete BS. The few who did read the rules and got 200 wins in time should be rewarded, don't give the lazy, uninformed ones another chance. Those guys have to grow up and become a pro at some point. Stop feeding them with a spoon.

On January 07 2014 08:46 Dodgin wrote:
Fucking Bomber managed to figure out that he needed 200 wins on NA, and he got them. But apparently players that can actually read the English player handbook couldn't do it. Too busy crying about Protoss or the new maps on Reddit I guess.


Honestly, this.

All of this fuckery would've probably been avoided if hopeful participants gave enough of a shit to read the rules.

Thought I'm still incredibly disappointed in the NASL crew for not communicating anything with anybody which just wasted three hours of our time and more importantly the time of the progamers involved.


Woah, woah, woah... how about you calm down and take a deep breath. maybe even a few deep breaths. Are you calm now? Good. Then I have to ask you: Why the hell would you ever think that Bomber cannot actually read the English player handbook, Dodgin?


I think we can say with reasonable certainty that Bomber will have a lot more trouble reading an English rulebook than an NA progamer. Whether or not the rulebook was translated for Bomber in full is another thing, but as far as I know Bomber's English is far from perfect and the wording in the rulebook was pretty complicated relative to the level of English I've seen from him.

Unless there's a handbook readily available in Korean?


But you forget that Bomber underwent Asian education, where all emphasis is put into writing and only little, if at all, is put into speaking. I think he definitely would be able to understand the rulebook, albeit with a little help of an online dictionary.
Niko_Thien
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany2671 Posts
January 06 2014 23:58 GMT
#894
On January 07 2014 08:57 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 08:53 Niko_Thien wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:51 SinCitta wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:39 Wintex wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:37 NovaMB wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:36 Wintex wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:31 SinCitta wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:22 NovaMB wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:20 mikkmagro wrote:
that bracket looks so pathetic (no offence intended to the players actually competing in it)...where are the so-called pros in the American region who have been talking about not having opportunities to compete?
Demuslim, Xenocider, Illusion, Kane, hellokitty, hendralisk, minigun, catz, jimrising......

Busy complaining about new maps on twitter.

No idea the WCS site lists 200 cumulative wins. I dont know how they couldnt get that, especially with the new maps and everything they needed to get a feel for in the last days


Not trying to defend the sloppiness for anyone that does that for a living, but generally for anything SC2 related: Organizers, if you do an open qualifier, make a thread on TL with all the relevant info if there isn't already one. Nobody looks on your shitty websites.

If you can't seriously click a link ON ONE SITE. Seriously. It took me 1,5 min to find all the info on NASL.TV.

It's not hard. Thorin was so right. It saddens me.

#givekoreamoresupportblizzard.

The problem is the info on the NASL site is not consistent with the info on the WCS site.

I don't see the difficulty in COMMUNICATING that if it's the case. They used that much time QQ'ing about Daedalus Point when they could have used 1 of the tweets to ask... The top koreans QQ'ed and won.


My remark was more aimed at organizers trying to ignore TL as the major community hub in general, also regarding that IPL Satellite EU qualifier. Communication is much easier when that happens on a central hub. If I don't know that something is about to happen, I don't know that I have to look it up. But everybody checks TL.net daily, so when a thread pops up, I know that I have to look it up. It shouldn't be too hard to put some intern to that task and the fact that we talk in this thread ("registration open") instead of a proper LR or official announcement thread bears witness for it.

Again, not trying to defend the players that are (semi-)pro here, but sometimes I have the feeling that organizers don't want people to know about their stuff.

TL featured the rulebook for WCS, the 200 wins restriction was in there, right?

Yes. It was there and people seemed pretty supportive of it since it was going to get the Koreans to at least play on the American ladder for a bit

Okay than there is no excuse for not knowing this rule :D
@Niko_Thien on twitter!
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 06 2014 23:59 GMT
#895
On January 07 2014 08:58 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 08:55 Zealously wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:53 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:46 SamuraiX- wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:42 nkr wrote:
guys the solution is clearly that american players need more money, otherwise they cant afford an education to read the rules

koreans have such an advantage

On January 07 2014 08:44 Musicus wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:39 Shellshock wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:39 dogmeatstew wrote:
So do all those players that were DQ`d now have an extra week to get their 200 ladder wins?

It seems like that's the plan so they have more than 21 people in the qualifiers


And that's just complete BS. The few who did read the rules and got 200 wins in time should be rewarded, don't give the lazy, uninformed ones another chance. Those guys have to grow up and become a pro at some point. Stop feeding them with a spoon.

On January 07 2014 08:46 Dodgin wrote:
Fucking Bomber managed to figure out that he needed 200 wins on NA, and he got them. But apparently players that can actually read the English player handbook couldn't do it. Too busy crying about Protoss or the new maps on Reddit I guess.


Honestly, this.

All of this fuckery would've probably been avoided if hopeful participants gave enough of a shit to read the rules.

Thought I'm still incredibly disappointed in the NASL crew for not communicating anything with anybody which just wasted three hours of our time and more importantly the time of the progamers involved.


Woah, woah, woah... how about you calm down and take a deep breath. maybe even a few deep breaths. Are you calm now? Good. Then I have to ask you: Why the hell would you ever think that Bomber cannot actually read the English player handbook, Dodgin?


I think we can say with reasonable certainty that Bomber will have a lot more trouble reading an English rulebook than an NA progamer. Whether or not the rulebook was translated for Bomber in full is another thing, but as far as I know Bomber's English is far from perfect and the wording in the rulebook was pretty complicated relative to the level of English I've seen from him.

Unless there's a handbook readily available in Korean?


But you forget that Bomber undergoes Asian education, where all emphasis is put into writing and only little, if at all, is put into speaking. I think he definitely would be able to understand the rulebook, albeit with a little help of an online dictionary.


well if an american "pro" can't read it in its native language there is a big problem concerning him.
Zest fanboy.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
January 06 2014 23:59 GMT
#896
On January 07 2014 08:52 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 08:46 Dodgin wrote:
Fucking Bomber managed to figure out that he needed 200 wins on NA, and he got them. But apparently players that can actually read the English player handbook couldn't do it. Too busy crying about Protoss or the new maps on Reddit I guess.

Yes, it's ridiculous. The players that were able to play today should have a HUGE advantage next week.

Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 08:45 Yhamm wrote:
I would like to see TeamLiquid doing a news about these 2 qualifiers done by NASL this year... and talk ab out how bad it already was for season 3 last year.
it's cool to give results and talk about matches, but there is work to be done here too I think

What happened in season 3 ? Don't remember.

the same shit that happened for the first qualifier this season.
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
SamuraiX-
Profile Joined January 2013
United States52 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-07 00:02:01
January 07 2014 00:00 GMT
#897
It's just hilarious because Blizzard outlined the rules plain and simple in their WCS 2014 F.A.Q.:

Q. How does the Ladder Wildcard qualifier work?

Players must be ranked in master league and have at least 200 ladder wins on the home region ladder (American server for WCS America, Europe server for WCS Europe) in the season leading up to the ladder wildcard deadline. Players must use their registered ladder account that includes a name similar to their official player handle (no barcodes or smurfs). Specific details about all qualifier formats, deadlines, and signup pages will be released by NASL and ESL.


Reading: how does it work?
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
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January 07 2014 00:00 GMT
#898
On January 07 2014 08:37 NovaMB wrote:
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On January 07 2014 08:36 Wintex wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:31 SinCitta wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:22 NovaMB wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:20 mikkmagro wrote:
that bracket looks so pathetic (no offence intended to the players actually competing in it)...where are the so-called pros in the American region who have been talking about not having opportunities to compete?
Demuslim, Xenocider, Illusion, Kane, hellokitty, hendralisk, minigun, catz, jimrising......

Busy complaining about new maps on twitter.

No idea the WCS site lists 200 cumulative wins. I dont know how they couldnt get that, especially with the new maps and everything they needed to get a feel for in the last days


Not trying to defend the sloppiness for anyone that does that for a living, but generally for anything SC2 related: Organizers, if you do an open qualifier, make a thread on TL with all the relevant info if there isn't already one. Nobody looks on your shitty websites.

If you can't seriously click a link ON ONE SITE. Seriously. It took me 1,5 min to find all the info on NASL.TV.

It's not hard. Thorin was so right. It saddens me.

#givekoreamoresupportblizzard.

The problem is the info on the NASL site is not consistent with the info on the WCS site.

Yep. I was checking wcs.battle.net every day before any info was out on WCS 2014. Finally, they came out with this article http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/full-season-1-qualifier-dates-for-wcs-2014 much too late and it originally didn't even have links to register. Even several days after NASL had opened up registration, there still wasn't a link. The article stated that the article would be updated as soon as more info was available so it's giving me the impression that it's the most reliable place for information. I found out from some helpful fans on twitter about the qualifier and I promptly sent an email to esportsteam@blizzard.com telling them they need to update their page. And even when they updated it with a link to registration, they didn't update the fact that there are three qualifiers on three separate days. I couldn't play the qualifier on January 4 and as far as I knew, that was the only one. Why, on January 6, would I click the link to register for a qualifier that was on January 4? That'd be the only way I'd see that there are two more qualifiers on January 9 and 11. Finally now the article is updated with those dates as well, but too late again.

It is ridiculous in the first place that WCS's site isn't the best place for finding information on WCS. It should be. But if they want to let the community handle communicating information about WCS, then the WCS site certainly shouldn't pretend to be a good source of information on WCS. They gave the impression that they'd provide all the info I need on qualifiers and I would have missed them all if they were the only resource I used.
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Sweden7978 Posts
January 07 2014 00:00 GMT
#899
It's entirely possible that Bomber may have had someone just translate the rulebook for him. But that means he found someone who could translate the handbook, read or listened to the translated version, understood what was expected and made sure to comply with the rules. Is that hard for a guy like Bomber? Very likely not. You know what's even easier? Being a fucking native english speaker and just reading the damn thing yourself.

This is like a pro football player running onto the field and grabbing the ball with his hands. How hard can it be? Embarrassing.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
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Last Edited: 2014-01-07 00:02:19
January 07 2014 00:01 GMT
#900
On January 07 2014 08:59 sAsImre wrote:
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On January 07 2014 08:58 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:55 Zealously wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:53 JustPassingBy wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:46 SamuraiX- wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:42 nkr wrote:
guys the solution is clearly that american players need more money, otherwise they cant afford an education to read the rules

koreans have such an advantage

On January 07 2014 08:44 Musicus wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:39 Shellshock wrote:
On January 07 2014 08:39 dogmeatstew wrote:
So do all those players that were DQ`d now have an extra week to get their 200 ladder wins?

It seems like that's the plan so they have more than 21 people in the qualifiers


And that's just complete BS. The few who did read the rules and got 200 wins in time should be rewarded, don't give the lazy, uninformed ones another chance. Those guys have to grow up and become a pro at some point. Stop feeding them with a spoon.

On January 07 2014 08:46 Dodgin wrote:
Fucking Bomber managed to figure out that he needed 200 wins on NA, and he got them. But apparently players that can actually read the English player handbook couldn't do it. Too busy crying about Protoss or the new maps on Reddit I guess.


Honestly, this.

All of this fuckery would've probably been avoided if hopeful participants gave enough of a shit to read the rules.

Thought I'm still incredibly disappointed in the NASL crew for not communicating anything with anybody which just wasted three hours of our time and more importantly the time of the progamers involved.


Woah, woah, woah... how about you calm down and take a deep breath. maybe even a few deep breaths. Are you calm now? Good. Then I have to ask you: Why the hell would you ever think that Bomber cannot actually read the English player handbook, Dodgin?


I think we can say with reasonable certainty that Bomber will have a lot more trouble reading an English rulebook than an NA progamer. Whether or not the rulebook was translated for Bomber in full is another thing, but as far as I know Bomber's English is far from perfect and the wording in the rulebook was pretty complicated relative to the level of English I've seen from him.

Unless there's a handbook readily available in Korean?


But you forget that Bomber undergoes Asian education, where all emphasis is put into writing and only little, if at all, is put into speaking. I think he definitely would be able to understand the rulebook, albeit with a little help of an online dictionary.


well if an american "pro" can't read it in its native language there is a big problem concerning him.


Who says the remaining NA players can't read the rulebook?
They either decided to not sign up or they weren't able to get 200 wins or they didn't know it happened.
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