Solar, Bbyong and Sora are all underrated and more than worth their cost. herO is going to be fielded pretty much every match (and win most of them) whereas Dark's team SKT is going to win quite a bit, probably netting me a few free points. As for anti, it should be self-explanatory.
I'm bad at this anyways so I went with MY BOY SNIPER WHOOP WHOOP making his comeback. Also I'm hoping Maru gets ace duties enough from Jin Air but sOs could definitely take away from him. Sora is going to beat Flash in week one and I rounded my team out with protoss players. Then I put some people on my anti team.
CJ Entus because they'll win, and because the 5 point player range is limited. Sora and Bbyong because they are too cheap to pass up on, and Sora will win the Protoss awards. Maru because hes amazing, Trap, Dream and Rogue because I like them. DRG on the anti-team because theres way too many Protoss in SPL, Creator because hes on Prime and too easy to counter, Byul because well I dunno, dont think he'll win much.
IM has a good chance to win both of their 1st round matches so I took them and they were cheap. DRG in anti-team is a big risk but I hope it pays off. Sorry got a ticket to my team because he's in SKT (the only SKT 1pointer).
HerO is my man. herO is my second man. TY should play a lot, he's the best terran on KT. I had Sniper instead of Stork for a while but then I realized it was just my satanic side picking him. DongRaeGu will play a lot and he's great in team leagues historically. Coca is the next zerg bonjour.
I've always hated Byun for being a Prime terran, even though he's the polar opposite of MKP. Not an inch less abusive though. Hydra plays zerg while CJ has great protoss talent, Terminator... I didn't even remember that he existed.
HerO because HerO. Yonghwa is teamleague god so I hope he has a good PL. Maru amd Sora are my big guns. Rogue/Savage/whatever his name is good and has a fairly easy first round matchup. Dream is because I am a fanboy and I just wanted him.
DRG will probably be played as their ace against some of the toughest players and I'm not sold on his comeback. Kal is on Prime, and he got wrecked pretty badly in preseason. RorO because fuck RorO.
Can't turn down the hydra-hero-bbyong-sora super combo. ByuL will probably get a lot of playtime and his first two matches look pretty easy. Ungnnim will farm any IM wins points for me and along with byul negate the -2 from MVP/Nestea. Flash is a chobo and is gonna get wrecked vs Sora.
Solar, Bbyong and Sora are all underrated and more than worth their cost. herO is going to be fielded pretty much every match (and win most of them) whereas Dark's team SKT is going to win quite a bit, probably netting me a few free points. As for anti, it should be self-explanatory.
Solar, Bbyong and Sora are all underrated and more than worth their cost. herO is going to be fielded pretty much every match (and win most of them) whereas Dark's team SKT is going to win quite a bit, probably netting me a few free points. As for anti, it should be self-explanatory.
Roro gon 'fuck you up bro.
Gonne fuck me up so hard they don't even field him?
Fantasy is strong and cheap, LiquidHerO is LiquidHero, so must pick, CJherO is good and will play, Solar and Zest are underrated and Sora is on a roll. Reality is not been so good, same as roro, and I don't trust super.
Solar, Bbyong and Sora are all underrated and more than worth their cost. herO is going to be fielded pretty much every match (and win most of them) whereas Dark's team SKT is going to win quite a bit, probably netting me a few free points. As for anti, it should be self-explanatory.
Roro gon 'fuck you up bro.
Gonne fuck me up so hard they don't even field him?
Main Team 4 Dream Tough first matchup but he should win against Byul. Pretty sick player all round. 7 herO[jOin] (captain) Well, he looks like he's back in really good shape and he's a qt 3 Rogue(Savage) Was pretty decent in the past and has an easy first game 4 Sora For 4 points is such a steal 4 Squirtle Has a pretty good chance of getting two wins week 1 provided that Sniper doesn't do his thing. Don't know about his shape in other matchups but his PvP has been looking pretty good lately, good skill to have in proleague. 2 True(Alone) Really good zerg player but isn't in the lineup for the first week. Not too sure on any of the other 2 pointers. Pls give him some games Jin Air. 6 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]SK Telecom T1[/tlpd] Because Rain, Soulkey and Parting
Anti Team 3 Byun No appearances on the lineup this first week and I doubt Prime will win a series 6 DonRaeGu ZvP hasn't looked particularly impressive and has a tough first opponent 4 Shine Who?
Fantasy is strong and cheap, LiquidHerO is LiquidHero, so must pick, CJherO is good and will play, Solar and Zest are underrated and Sora is on a roll. Reality is not been so good, same as roro, and I don't trust super.
I have a feeling that he is going to show up as MVP's ace as the season goes on. He may surprise you.
Coca seems like a steal at 2 points, I'm sure his talent will shine through. Flash because he's going to be the Ace for KT every time, and I expect it to get to ace match very frequently. herO for much the same reason as Flash, and he's been killing it recently Sora is a steal at 4. (hopefully) Stork because I have a feeling.. and because someone on Samsung has to win some games. Tough first week for him though. Tails because I needed someone else at 2 points and I liked him best. And KT Rolster because I expect them to win, and parlaying them with Flash is a good choice.
Byul because he's overrated, though he should get a lot of starts. Creator because he's on the downswing of his career arc. (at what, 17?) And Super because he's not.
Main Team speaks for itself, players thats going to be fielded a lot and are solid. (maybe Sora instead of Yonghwa if Artosis is going to curse him again..)
Anti Bunny: 3p not being fielded first round, CJ Terran thats not Bbyong, Terran. DonRaeGu: .. 6points ;; RorO: Please it's RorO, join the club!
Going to take a long shower after building this team...feeling so dirty.
I wonder if this DonRaeGu fellow will be fielded regularly, and if he's in any way related to DongRaeGu. Judging by his ID he might be italian though, so there's that.
Main Team 7 herO[jOin] hav u seen this guy :o why is he 7 points 1 MyuNgSiK (captain) Because he's on KT, and he's not that bad. He might get fielded a few times. 1 point too? 3 Solar His aligulac is quite good, and might become the ace another time 4 Sora He 4-2'd PartinG 5 TY(Baby) Baby was quite good last year :o He might be better than flash now 4 Yonghwa 6 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]SK Telecom T1[/tlpd]
How is bbyong rated so low! bargain! classic sora and yongwha are all very good at pvp so obvious choices, and as long as shine plays a fan favourite he's guaranteed some points
anti team is the most self explanatory list in the world
PartinG as captain because he's a fuckin' boss. I have high hopes for Sora and his career in general, so I put him up there because he's definitely worth that point cost. Bbyong is there for more or less the latter reason. YongHwa because he's really good at teamleagues. HerO because he's one of my favorite players. Action because he's a good piece in KT, and finally SKT for team slot because they're going to win. GO SKT!
RorO because he's been terrible in HotS. Creator because he's in Prime, and Super because there are only two five-point options and I didn't want to pick TY.
Main Team (in picking order) 3 Fantasy (captain):been my captain for god knows how many FPLs, and 3pointer? like seriously?
6 Hydra: another long time staple, unless he fucked up like last year, hydra is the main scorer
7 PartinG: torn between him & herO but T1 plays 2 matches
4 Classic: it's him or Sora but I wanna fully enjoy FvS so chintoss prevails (he won like 99.999% mirror last year iirc)
3 Kal: got 6 pts left but most 5+1 or 4+2 combos aint so appealing, 3+3 would be best, in which Kal + Salvage stand out. Wanna root for Kal's return also
4 Jin Air Green Wings: mostly due to player picks, go for KHAN originally but Im kinda risk-averse these days so yeah
Anti Team 3 Mvp: I doubt he would be playing much, let alone winning 6 Stats: never know what Stats will show up but 6pointer? talk about overpriced 4 Creator: the only good 4pt anti left. Might as well go for Super though
Guess Im a halfass entusman but wanting a headstart after week 1, SKT is the way to go And I really hope no jerk would go full T1 and win the league zero trades again
Main Team 6 Hydra (captain) My man 2 ParalyzE Sick afrotoss, also needed a cheap player 4 Sora Obv. 2 True(Alone) One of my favorite zergs 5 TY(Baby) I think he will do well (I hope ._.) 6 Zest MONSTER 5 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]CJ Entus[/tlpd]
Anti Team 4 RorO is shit 5 Super was good at some point but completely fell off 4 Terminator was never good
Maru is going to tear up this pro league plain and simple, he will guide Jin Air to the play offs and hopefully if get good seed will face SKT T1 in an immense final where sadly Maru wont be able to carry it all xD
DRG is anti cuz i think he is going to be retired during this SPL ^_^
Oh and NesTea because of his value, he wont be played more
The strongest IM players that will always play plus UngNim since my team is IM and I need a terran. Parting is on his way to the top again and herO is awesome. Well Protoss is the strongest in PL anyways so here we go.
No idea about the anti, but I don't believe in DRG or MVP at all.
I decided to go for good players from each team, primarily tosses because PvProleague. I think the consistency of sOs, Trap and Classic will edge me ahead combined with the reliability of Hydra and Bbyong (CJ seem to be in good form lately). Picked Terror because I needed a 2 pointer and he is playing the first week. Team IM because they have lots of good protosses at only 3 points cost.
Anti was easy, MVP Shine has never been consistent, Creator has slumped all of HoTS so that left me with the need to get a 5 pointer and this is where the real dilema hit. TY is wicked good when he is on, but can be abysmally poor when off, so I went with him, even though I know I could regret it later.
I'd have loved to also pick up PartinG, Sora and CJ herO but I just couldn't afford it, would have messed up the makeup of my team and, besides its not AK round yet. Would have went full P as well if I could, they fit the BO1 format so well. It almost hurts being terran at heard but picking toss above terrans or zergs like Flash, Maru and Soulkey.
I went top heavy + Sora + SKT bench player that will score lots of victory points and picked two other guys who will be starting for low prices this week. Prime sucks, and MVP drops off too much behind DRG IMO.
Wow, everyone putting DRG on anti, but I still believe in the original dongster. Maru's not worth 7. It doesn't take 3 days of preparation to know to scout for proxy barracks.
A bit risky... I have some weird picks, but based on what I've seen recently, I think that if I get darn lucky, I might have a chance... Also, I feel like Trap is a total steal at only 4 points.
Fantasy is a cheap Terran on a team i think will probably win this season. Parting is very good and has a good chance at two wins in the first week. soO got second in the latest WCS GSL. Sora had a really good run in WCG. sorry is the cheapest SKT player. Squirtle is a player i like, has two winnable matches in week one and i think is good value.
Flash isn't worth 8 points, maybe 6 at best. Nestea probably won't see much playtime. Sniper won't really see much playtime and MVP probably won't do so well.
damn it Boy you have some serious balls or you are just very self-destructive but anyway that's sooo bold
How can you argue with any players on the Main team, other than possibly Fantasy? (after oov training, he will be good)
CoCa is a fucking beast, Cure was the best player in Team 8, herO is just herO and won proleague for CJ, Parting as captian, Sora very up and coming, Jin Air a good solid team with additions of players.
Hydra, never ever impresses me. Squirtle, pains me to put there, he is just going down, and down, and down. And Turn? Who?
I didn't think I'd come to like CJ_Entus so much, but here I am betting everything on them. First Fantasy league, should be fun haha. Also picked Dream because I'm really diggin his potential.
Maru and sOs were no brainers really. I feel I'm going to regret putting Maru as captain over sOs but oh well. Only parts I'm really unsure about are the Zergs. I did want Soulkey but too expensive :<
Anti-team is kinda ballsy but oh well and I'm not entirely how I managed to make my actual team racial balanced, it just happened. First SPL and FPL agogo I guess.
Main Team 8 Flash - Brood War Idol 7 herO - The best smile 4 YongHwa - The uncrowned champion 4 EffOrt - Brood War Idol 3 Stork (captain) - Brood War Idol 3 Solar - The rising star + Show Spoiler +
I GOT ALL THE UNDERRATED PLAYERS THERE WERE SO MANY :O Then I could afford Soulkey + SKT :D
Anti is entirely MVP based. They're going to get slaughtered as a team meaning they get very little extra points from team wins. I would have tried to base my anti around Prime but all their players were too low value.
Main Team 3 Bbyong - Very underrated. 3 Fantasy - Could turn bonjwa or could retire, both seem as likely. Chose him because I like him and still believe oov can fix everything. 8 Flash (captain) - Favorite player. Always my FPL captain. 3 Solar - Underrated and cheap. 4 Sora - Cheap! 5 TY(Baby) - KT Terran. Him and Flash are keeping the hopes of every Terran player alive. 4 KT Rolster - Favorite team. Fair point cost.
Anti Team 3 Byun - I don't see him playing a lot (he went to WCS AM?). I like him, though. 4 Creator - Never liked him. Has sucked big time since Hots. 6 DongRaeGu - Risky pick, but needed a 6-pointer. The choice was between DRG and Hydra, and I ain't pickin' that Protoss-killer in Proleague, no sir.
Thanks for making this happen guys. FPL makes this so much more fun.
Asking for some advice from you guys. Do you think I should stick with Fantasy as my 3point terran or switch him out for YongHwa? He is protoss and has relatively winnable matches in the first week, while Fantasy has no field time.
No fear, let's go. sOs and PartinG will carry although i was thinking about herO, but endless love to these two prevailed. Bbyong is pretty safe investment, Stork will generate something and sacsri is developing fast. Squirle is Squirtle.
Byun is pretty much missed, so it's safe, HerO with all his fame from PvP, can deliver every result expected and unexpected, same with DRG. And IM team, i pretty much expect him to be in top-3 this season, time will tell.
Byul: at 4 points, the runner up of the most recent WCS Korea is really underrated. He's also the only non-P on TLIM worth mentioning (I don't expect to see MVP and Nestea, they traditionally don't play that much in team leagues), so I expect to see him very often. Coca: I think he can become the main Zerg of GW. His team is one of the title contenders, and on top of that he can actually play the game, so he will be worth the two points for sure. eMotion: I shied away from most of the hipster picks (Solar, Sora...) even though I was very tempted, but at the end I had two points left over and wanted a Protoss so I picked the hipster pick of hipster picks.He is on the rise imo. HerO: my favorite player, I hope with the abundance of Protoss practice partners on IM he can bring his PvP up to snuff. He seems motivated enough to be in PL, so I'm optimistic Maru: 7 points, but an investment that I can see paying off. Will play every match, and he is the real Terran prodigy. Rain: I'm actually a little uncomfortable paying so much for him, as his PvP is really lacking nowadays, I hope he regain form in the off season. If he gets back to his old PvP shape, he'll be the MVP of the PvPleague. IM: Since Yoda isn't participating, I actually think JinAir GW would be a better pick, but that would feel like treason for me.
Byun: the fact that I consider him one of the best players on Prime and he isn't even on the line up nor living in the team house makes me think that we won't see much of him this season. Also, he pretty much didn't play very many matches lately. Hydra: I've got a bad feeling about this, with him being on CJ and all, but I needed 6 points. Maybe DRG would be a better anti pick? Dunno Shine: meh, this guy never impressed me and 4 points is waaaay too much for him.
I had a "serious" team with some serious mistakes (DRG on ANTI!?!?), but I soon realized I should just go for players I like and not meta-game myself. Nestea as captain as he is the oldest.
I don't like watching zerg that much (unless DRG/Leenock ofc) so I put them on anti team, hope they burn
I'm fairly confident in my picks. I'm confident that Sora will be able to take down Flash round 1. TY and herO play each other round one, so it seems like a wasted pick, but I believe they'll do well and don't want to have to deal with trade taxes in later rounds
Vuvuzela my goal is top 20 - still can't decide between Parting and Maru help me please
Main Team 4 Creator Prime's first protoss 4 Keen Keen always was clutch in gsl's and Gstl's, solid terran who did good in wcs 7 Parting (captain) plays twice first week, plus it's Parting 3 Rogue(Savage) I remember watching a tourhouse vid where his teamate said he was the best in practice matches 4 soO finished 2nd Wcs korea 4 Trap finished 3rd WCS Korea beating excellent players, he's my weird draft for this fantasy 4 [tlpd#teams#sc2-korean]KT Rolster[/tlpd] KT always strong in proleague
Anti Team 4 Classic Never was a big fan of his, hes 3rd toss on skt behind parting and rain so i guess he shouldn't play too much 4 Sora plays flash first week, lol he'll lose 5 Super needed a 5 pointer
My personal tips for people who are new or cant decide between players :
Byul is a 4 pointer who's gonna be IM only zerg playing - nestea probably won't play as he never did in teamleagues (he's done being good anyways).
Bbyong is a 3 pointed and only decent terran in CJ
Look for players in the smaller rosters as they should have more playtime eg. KT rolster has very few players with flash stats and zest likely to play every match
Pick Flash, I never do and always regret it; he's by far the best fantasy player you can get.
and you're gonna be sad if you hop in the Sora bandwagon, all he did was beat parting and a bunch of nonames.
At 4 points each, Classic and Trap are steals. Rain and Zest are pretty good. Effort and eins because I can't have six Protosses. Jin Air looks pretty solid with Maru/sOs, and they're only four points. All Terran anti-team (without picking the big Terrans like Flash and Maru who will probably do well anyway) because PvProleague.
I don't have a strategy, it's my usual "Almost-all Terran lineup". I pick the players I like, not the ones I think will make me win (there would likely be more Protoss guys otherwise ;D). Looking to Baby to make big things happen in PL. I would probably have picked Fantasy instead of Byun but Byun fits my team's name better. Edit: Fuck it, I picked Fantasy over Byun in the end. Anti-team doesn't include Protoss players, but that's about my only criterion. And I don't really intend to trade ;p
On December 28 2013 06:02 Zealously wrote: It's fun seeing who did their PL research and who didn't
I think you are riding waaaay to heavily on CJ and in this kind of format... that doesn't bode well. You'll probably be around me by the end of the day and be somewhere in the middle of the pack or lower. ;o
I don't mind your anti-team though.
On December 28 2013 05:53 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Picking Classic in anti-team in Proleague is pretty bold move.
Well he is considered the third string protoss on Telecom, but the problem with picking up SKT players is the fact that they still build up points when their team wins and a lot of people think they're the favorites this season. He will definitely get less playing time compared to Rain and PartinG.
With regards to my picks, I went with what I usually go with. Tried to get the best market value for my players.
I have an all-Kespa line-up here, since most of them are ridiculously underrated (Fanta only 3 points? pah!). I believe in Baby (TY) firmly and thus made him my captain. Effort and Fantasy have a huge bag of Proleague experience and can beat anyone on a good day. herO carried his team last season, which makes him a good pick. Kal is kind of a wildcard since nobody knows on what level he is, but he was a really solid bw Toss and I just like the guy RorO has done great things in the past and even with the weak samsung line-up he will get some wins I hope. Former Team8 really stepped up their line-up and even with the loss of the headhunter Jaehoon (Argo), they are a strong team in my opinion.
Anti-team was more of a gut feeling. I hate to put sora in there because I really like him, but he is an up-and-comer and we will see if he is made of proleague material. I think despite his recent runs he is a bit overrated and thus a good pick. Classic... well, he is good. Damn, should have picked someone else. I remember putting him on my anti team last season ("He race changed? that CANT be good!") and paying dearly for it. Super is... well honestly I didn't watch any GSTL so I don't have a clue who he is. All in all it must have been a bad decision to put only imba protoss in there, so this round will not go so well for me I guess :/
Tried to go as middle of the road as possible because there are so many Protoss players. However, I hope I am not wrong about RorO. Every time I think he is a trash player he starts winning a lot -__-
Bbyong, Sora are too cheap to pass up. I love my Hero tandem. YongHwa is always a safe bet for some points. Rogue felt like a "out-of-left-field" pick at first, but being on Jinair, having a decent vP record and facing off against a poor vZ (in week 1's Trend) should bode well.
I don't trust DRG, and that could end up biting me in the ass. RorO-hate train and Byun not playing.
I reaaaally wanted to pick up Flash, but I don't find KT very strong and doubt they wil get to the ace match very much, plus the players I pick tend to underperform.
Main Team 4 Byul have a feeling he's gonna do good in PL, did quite well in WCS iirc 7 herO[jOin] no need to explain here i guess 3 Solar reached grandfinal of N-cup, seems promising for the cost of 3 1 sorry trying to get points through SKT here haha 8 Soulkey (captain) has always been solid and one of the most consistent players imo 1 Trust not sure what i was thinking here, perhaps getting some points with CJ? 6 SK Telecom T1 obv the best team on paper
Anti Team 6 DongRaeGu had to pick one of the cost of 6 3 Mvp doubt he'll get fielded 4 RorO not fielded in the first two matches, doubt that he will
Team made right now on the fly. Last time I played i put some thought into it and it was a fiasco, so now I try a different approach Edit: Updated after considering a kind forum user's suggestion
Bbyong + Coca undervalued. herO has been one of the strongest toss players recently and he was 7 instead of 8 points. SoO I chose over Effort just because he's on SKT1 and I should get points even if he doesn't do so well or start too often. Sora and Squirtle are both very solid players and seemed like safe picks at 4. Coca isn't being fielded first match but I think he'll get playing time in the future and I think everyone else will be a regular starter.
Since I think SKT1 will have the best record, I chose them for my team as I've found skimping on team points has been a big mistake in the past. I don't know about the rest of you but I'm not going to bet against Rain, Parting, SoO, Soulkey, Classic, Fantasy in a bo5 format.
Anti team: Creator hasn't done well in hots at all. Stats I think will do decently but I think he might be slightly overvalued and he didn't play well in preseason. Turn because I don't think he'll be doing any winning, or much playing even.
I think herO is going to be one of the strongest players this season. With a lot of PvP coming up, he should be fine! Classic and TY played strong last season, but i can't judge their skill right now, just hoping they managed to maintain a certain amount of skill. Dark is still unknown, but played a Korean qualifier for the IEM Sao Paulo and barely missed the tournament. Maybe an upcoming talent...? IN the meantime, Bbyong managed to beat dark in this qualifier and had good performances throughout the year. And HerO should be a choice without taking too much risks.
Main Team 7 Maru (captain) I believe in this youngster's ability to win stuff 3 Mvp THREE POINTS? 2 Nestea I still believe in this dinosaur's ability to win stuff 4 Sora Has a lot of promise 8 sOs(Shy) Wins stuff 2 Swagger #SWAG #YOLO 4 Jin Air Green Wings gud team
Anti Team 3 Jila(Kal) I don't trust that he's that good already 4 Reality A gamble, I think he's not good but I could be surprised 6 Stats Has disappeared off the face of the earth, I don't know if KT will be able to find him in time to field him in Proleague
Bbyong, Classic and herO are highly undervalued imho. Their stats in the recent games are outstanding. I picked Coca, Trap and Sora because they have decent stats and i think they have the potential to do even better in the near future.
SK Telecom T1 best team by far. Not sure if it worth the 6 cost. The new best of 5 format definitely increases the variance. Since my second choice cj isn't much cheaper i stick with SKT1
Anti picks: Even so stats was very good some time ago i am not convinced he can deliver results right now. The lack of matches from him makes it difficult to judge how good he is atm. The games he showed weren't that good. In comparison to other players with equal value he seems to be a good pick for the anti team.
Jila has played 4 televised games in hots (1 win). Unless there is some information out there that i am not aware ofany number above the 1 would overvalue him.
i think shine is one of the weaker 4 valued players.
Main Team 1 Billowy Don't know him but he's protoss and 1 point. Also, like the name! 4 Effort I always have a feeling the effort will do good so I need him in here. 3 Fantasy 3 point Fantasy. Havn't seen him much but I'm sure he will pull through 8 sOs(Shy) s0s is too boss to not have. 4 Squirtle Squirtle was a beast last I've seen. I have faith 6 Zest (captain) Zest too good Gg. 4 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]Jin Air Green Wings[/tlpd] All about faith and some good players. It's about time they win something(with new sponser too)
Anti Team 8 Flash Was his bane in sc1 not protoss? Last time I checked, protoss pretty good right now. 2 Nestea I don't think he'll play much. He might make an appearance just to make one in proleague 3 Turn Don't know the guy.
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Main Team 0 Barbie (captain) 0 pointer for captain so i am not tied to an expensive player 4 Byul good week 1 matchups. trade him out after 7 Maru should play aces for jin air. needed a terran 4 Sora beast of a player and cheap 8 Soulkey best zerg and should play aces for t1 (although i don't think they will ever go to aces) due to rain's ability to choke in aces 3 Stork i believe! 4 Jin Air Green Wings because i think that they should be worth more than cj
Anti Team 6 DongRaeGu over hyped and needed a 6 pointer in my anti 3 Hitman do not see him playing that much. 4 RorO because FUCK RorO!
On December 28 2013 08:04 Fuchsteufelswild wrote: I was going to post mine but
1 - maybe it's better to not give hints to others? :Þ 2 - The TL Forum Code section is empty for me, having completed my team. I don't think it's meant to be like that..., but this means it's not super easy to paste it all with nice formatting, so I'll definitely just wait until the round starts!
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You can find the neat coding stuff on your team page. Features under the TL banner, Fantasy Starcraft, Go to Fantasy Proleague. Edit: Oh and click to view it. Boom. Would be nice to get the shortcut up though.
Haven't been keeping up too much with the sc2 scene, but love me the fpl. Still, feel rather good about these. HerO and IM gonna str8 rek these kidz woop
Soulkey is a yolo pick. He'll probably play and win all day every day. Solar, Sora, and Coca are all undervalued in my opinion and as such are great value picks. Too bad Coca isn't playing in round 1 but I think he'll see plenty of play over Terminator. HerO and Baby are just solid picks. Jin Air is a good team for 4 points (they are just as good as CJ imo and 1 less point)
Stats is worth 6 points but didn't look good in his preseason match (for what it's worth) and fills the anti team nicely. Other than that I picked two Prime protosses that I don't think are really up to snuff in proleague atm yet will still play a lot.
Classic: I learned my lesson from putting him in my anti-team before. eMotion: He will play this week and I need a 2-pt guy. FanTaSy: He is FanTaSy and iloveoov is back ... enough said. Flash: He is still the ace of his team and he will come out as the ace and win. Soulkey: consistently good. YongHwa: play 2 games this week and all have high chance to win them both.
Anti: These guys only play one this week and more likely to lose.
Sora because he is Sora at 4 points. herO looked like a monster at IEM and you know he's going to be the CJ ace in addition to playing every match. maru because I think he's the best player in proleague right now, even if there's some risk involved since he's never been in proleague and he'll probably split ace duties with sOs. squirtle because I love squirtle and he's always done well in team leagues. kal because it's hard to get a 3 point player that you know will play every match, there's always a chance he's a secret SC2 bonjwa, and because in an age of Protoss you might as well pick up a dragon. hush as the one point filler captain to make sure I could pay for herO and maru. Jin Air because I couldn't afford SKT or CJ and the sOs/Maru ace duo could carry hard. I really wanted fantasy at 3 points but I couldn't make it happen
anti team is byun because prime sucks and byun appears to not be playing anyway, shine because I don't think he's that good and his win rate against protoss is terrible, and stats because he's six points and I needed six points.
Team: Barbie cause IF she plays she will win 100% cause nobody wants her to cry. Bbyong at 3 points is way undervalued, herO will play every match and win most of them. Savage looked decent enough and will collect some points. Baby will be the best Terran on KT and finally become the big deal (). Zest cause i liked his old name. SKT cause they have the best lol team in the world (^^).
Antiteam: bravo wont play, Keen wont win and DRG is the false Dong
On December 28 2013 08:04 Fuchsteufelswild wrote: I was going to post mine but
1 - maybe it's better to not give hints to others? :Þ 2 - The TL Forum Code section is empty for me, having completed my team. I don't think it's meant to be like that..., but this means it's not super easy to paste it all with nice formatting, so I'll definitely just wait until the round starts!
You can find the neat coding stuff on your team page. Features under the TL banner, Fantasy Starcraft, Go to Fantasy Proleague. Edit: Oh and click to view it. Boom. Would be nice to get the shortcut up though.
No, that's precisely my point - those big white text fields for TL Forum Code and Non-TL Forum Code are BLANK!
Putting Flash on your anti-team is insane. He may not be doing well in individual leagues in SC2 but he got record for most wins last season in proleague haha.
On December 28 2013 08:04 Fuchsteufelswild wrote: I was going to post mine but
1 - maybe it's better to not give hints to others? :Þ 2 - The TL Forum Code section is empty for me, having completed my team. I don't think it's meant to be like that..., but this means it's not super easy to paste it all with nice formatting, so I'll definitely just wait until the round starts!
You can find the neat coding stuff on your team page. Features under the TL banner, Fantasy Starcraft, Go to Fantasy Proleague. Edit: Oh and click to view it. Boom. Would be nice to get the shortcut up though.
No, that's precisely my point - those big white text fields for TL Forum Code and Non-TL Forum Code are BLANK!
Silly question: are you sure you've created and confirmed your team?
All my players are playing two games this week, apart from Fantasy. This maximizes the chance of receiving points Plus all of them have over 55% win rates in their match ups. I had HerO instead of Fantasy but stupid FPL rules state I need one of each race on the team. As there were no Terrans available for 4 points that weren't playing against players i have on my team I went for Fantasy for 3. Though he is not playing this week I bet we will see him eventually. I went IM for the team because of their low cost, good team, and again, playing two matches this week, both of which I reckon they have a great chance of winning. Hardest thing to do was choose a Terran. The anti team is a gamble. I reckon Sora can beat Flash and the other two guys I doubt we will see anytime soon. Sorry Nestea but I think your time has come
I'm not going to get much popularity around here seeing as, I usually root for the guy that everybody loves to hate, and people really love to hate on RorO. That being said, I won't put him on either my team or anti-team because he is incredibly inconsistent, can either completely go beast mode or he stumble upon the event horizon of a super massive black hole, from round to round no less.
It feels like playing with fire to have someone like that on your anti. Edit: I'll rephrase that, it feels like playing with anti-matter when you haven't payed your electricity bills.
This is the first time i try Fantasy Starcraft so don't judge me for my bad decisions However i chose Soulkey as the captain hoping he will have great results in SPL (he had shown us his strength so many times). For the other players i followed my "instinct" and i went for Byun, HerO, Mvp, Nestea and soO. They hadn't won so much during this year (especially for Byun and Mvp), but they are great players and in competitions like SPL they can win important matches.
The choice of my players was influenced by the one of the team. SK Telecom T1 costs 6 points (so many!), but it has a good roster.
I don't know why i don't like Maru. Tell me why please, i don't find the reason by myself He won WCS Korea, amazing result, but then he hasn't played so well (in my opinion of course)
Solar, Bbyong and Sora are all underrated and more than worth their cost. herO is going to be fielded pretty much every match (and win most of them) whereas Dark's team SKT is going to win quite a bit, probably netting me a few free points. As for anti, it should be self-explanatory.
Someone is going to be very sad when his anti-points stack up
A lot of the CJ players such as Sora and Bbyong are very underrated, so I can definitely see a lot of good results from them! DRG has an okay ZvP but his ZvZ is not very good. I think his points are a bit too high!
Asking for some advice from you guys. Do you think I should stick with Fantasy as my 3point terran or switch him out for YongHwa? He is protoss and has relatively winnable matches in the first week, while Fantasy has no field time.
YongHwa. He plays Protoss, and Fantasy won't get much playing time with the lineup SKT has
Asking for some advice from you guys. Do you think I should stick with Fantasy as my 3point terran or switch him out for YongHwa? He is protoss and has relatively winnable matches in the first week, while Fantasy has no field time.
YongHwa. He plays Protoss, and Fantasy won't get much playing time with the lineup SKT has
I want Fantasy to do well, but his decision making is very sketchy and his macro is very bad (expect to see 1k minerals time to time), compared to pros. But his micro and multi-tasking is very good!
I Am actually feeling quite confident! I don't think Soulkey will do well even though he is sick good due to the preparation time his opponents will be given, especially the protosses, so i think they will be able to come up with some sick sniper builds. I am confident about DRG especially at the cost, he's a really solid ace and seems to finally have gotten good ZvP and has sick ZvT and good ZvZ, solid pick imo. Super, Sora and Squirtle seems to me like solid protosses that aren't ace material but is worthwhile for the price. Keen is a solid terran and soO has the potential to improve heavily during this Proleague season, and is in my opinion already worth the 4 points without any improvements. The reason for Hydra is the same as Soulkey and Stork doesn't seem very solid at the moment. Please fell free to discuss with me i love discussing SC2
I have no idea what im doing but i feel i should have picked more protoss haha. I somewhat have faith stork will do better, especially since he qualified for code A recentishly, and I became a bit of a team 8 fan last year so I'm going to stick with them under Jin Air and see how that goes for me...
I Am actually feeling quite confident! I don't think Soulkey will do well even though he is sick good due to the preparation time his opponents will be given, especially the protosses, so i think they will be able to come up with some sick sniper builds. I am confident about DRG especially at the cost, he's a really solid ace and seems to finally have gotten good ZvP and has sick ZvT and good ZvZ, solid pick imo. Super, Sora and Squirtle seems to me like solid protosses that aren't ace material but is worthwhile for the price. Keen is a solid terran and soO has the potential to improve heavily during this Proleague season, and is in my opinion already worth the 4 points without any improvements. The reason for Hydra is the same as Soulkey and Stork doesn't seem very solid at the moment. Please fell free to discuss with me i love discussing SC2
You overbooked your anti team by 4 points. You could take out Soulkey and put in someone much worse.
Main Team 3 Bbyong - CJ is a team rising up and Bbyong gave awesome results lately. 8 Rain (captain) - Uncontested KING of the proleague, TOP 1 protoss world. 3 Sniper - he won a GSL afterall...and i needed a zerg. #yolopick 4 Sora - Solid player. 4 Trap - Solid player. 2 Trend -Rising star,been awesome in online tournaments and very cheap. 6 SK Telecom T1 - SKT #1
Anti Team 4 Reality - who ? literally WHO ? 5 Super - when is the last time he even played ? and soO will crush him 4 Terminator - ........................................................
Sniper is really the only pick i'm afraid of...don't give up on me bro !
On December 28 2013 09:51 shid0x wrote: StimUpTheRamp
Main Team 3 Bbyong - CJ is a team rising up and Bbyong gave awesome results lately. 8 Rain (captain) - Uncontested KING of the proleague, TOP 1 protoss world. 3 Sniper - he won a GSL afterall...and i needed a zerg. #yolopick 4 Sora - Solid player. 4 Trap - Solid player. 2 Trend -Rising star,been awesome in online tournaments and very cheap. 6 SK Telecom T1 - SKT #1
Anti Team 4 Reality - who ? literally WHO ? 5 Super - when is the last time he even played ? and soO will crush him 4 Terminator - ........................................................
Sniper is really the only pick i'm afraid of...don't give up on me bro !
reality was the first kespa terran to start doing stuff in SC2, back in wcs 2012 even when brood lord infestor was unstoppable he would still manage to win games against the top esf players at the time.. since then i dont know what happened to him tho =/
On December 28 2013 08:04 Fuchsteufelswild wrote: I was going to post mine but
1 - maybe it's better to not give hints to others? :Þ 2 - The TL Forum Code section is empty for me, having completed my team. I don't think it's meant to be like that..., but this means it's not super easy to paste it all with nice formatting, so I'll definitely just wait until the round starts!
You can find the neat coding stuff on your team page. Features under the TL banner, Fantasy Starcraft, Go to Fantasy Proleague. Edit: Oh and click to view it. Boom. Would be nice to get the shortcut up though.
No, that's precisely my point - those big white text fields for TL Forum Code and Non-TL Forum Code are BLANK!
Silly question: are you sure you've created and confirmed your team?
Asking for some advice from you guys. Do you think I should stick with Fantasy as my 3point terran or switch him out for YongHwa? He is protoss and has relatively winnable matches in the first week, while Fantasy has no field time.
YongHwa. He plays Protoss, and Fantasy won't get much playing time with the lineup SKT has
Are you kidding.
Oov is coaching SKT again now. Fantasy WILL be playing. He's also the team captain.
Asking for some advice from you guys. Do you think I should stick with Fantasy as my 3point terran or switch him out for YongHwa? He is protoss and has relatively winnable matches in the first week, while Fantasy has no field time.
YongHwa. He plays Protoss, and Fantasy won't get much playing time with the lineup SKT has
Are you kidding.
Oov is coaching SKT again now. Fantasy WILL be playing. He's also the team captain.
I wouldn't be preaching the team captain point because truth be told team captain's don't see a lot of playing time.
Anti Team 4 Creator 3 Jila(Kal) 6 Stats Sorry for posting this again but I'm looking the team over again and thinking I may make some changes. Anyone have any advice?
Solar, Bbyong and Sora are all underrated and more than worth their cost. herO is going to be fielded pretty much every match (and win most of them) whereas Dark's team SKT is going to win quite a bit, probably netting me a few free points. As for anti, it should be self-explanatory.
lol...I had a similar idea, especially with the anti
4 RorO (ugh why can't you cost more...) 3 ByuN (nerves and not here much) 6 Stats (dangerous, but I never bought the hype with him so whatever)
I'm going IM and CJ heavy. Something tells me I got Squirtle, Yonghwa, and Sora at a bargain. Bbyong is there because I needed a Terran, he's on CJ, and 3 points is pretty cheap.
Main Team 8 Flash (captain) Too expensive, but hey, he's the Sea of SC2. Will always be his team's ace unlike the SKT 8-pointers. 6 Hydra He WRECKS protoss shit. 4 Squirtle Protoss, plays twice this week. 2 Terror Plays twice this week, great trade potential after the first week for 2 points. 2 Trend Protoss, might win his game. 4 Yonghwa Protoss, plays twice this week. 4 KT Rolster SKT is such a steal at 6 points, but I felt dirty so I chose KT.
Anti Team 6 DongRaeGu I know Parting's PvZ is horrible but he still might win vs DRG. 4 Reality Won't see much play time if Khan's Ps perform decently. 3 Turn If Khan needs to play a T, they'll use Reality.
Sora's gonna crush this SPL. And I think KT is better than most people think. Price on SKT players is way too high. HerO and Trap are steals at those prices. DRG is going to crash and burn in Proleague. I don't think he realizes what he's in for.
Rain is a Protoss player, he plays for SKT, he's one of the best players in Proleague ... that's my boy. FanTaSy is incredibly good at making bad decision, but guys, he's my Favourite Terran so I had to ... herO, Sora & rare plays for CJ Entus. Who's CJ's Coach ? Coach Park. Nothing more to say here. Squirtle & IM have a good Week 1, playing against TerrOr (Prime) and Sniper (MVP), they can win and gimme pooiiinnntsssss
Antis... DongRaeGu was a hard choice but he's not as good as before. Shine(MVP) is bad (imo) and the guy will play against Soulkey (Top 2 Zerg in the World with JD ...) and Trap (who has a sick PvZ ...). I don't think TurN is going to play much. Solar, Trend, Stork, RorO, Shine & Reality are surely better than him.
Also, I hope RorO will destroy your FPL like he destroyed mine Last Proleague ... I'll never ever ever make that mistake again ^^.
Finally, Did I say that I really like Goojila's nickname ? ^^
looks like a solid team, although not sure about paralyze, and where's your anti-team? :D My first time was rank #2826 about of about 5800, only went up, so good luck to you ^^
My first year doing FPL so I hope this goes well ! But anyways I really wanted to pick sOs but settled for just having Jin Air as my team so I could root for Maru and the other Jin Air's as well! And since I already had so many CJ on my team and pretty much all my favorites it was a good sacrifice to make, especially since CJ players are so cheap :O And then I went with Byul cuz he's a middle of the pack Zerg and I think he will definitely play a lot if anything, and IM I think is underrated and will win quite a bit. And Squirtle is the man so had to scoop him up, and Creator for kicks - who knows maybe Prime will surprise us!? At least he'll get a lot of playing time. And that's the scoop on my team! GL HF everyone
Main Team 8 Flash (captain) - Because he will own PL again despite sucking in individual leagues 3 Jila(Kal) - Someone's gotta win on Prime right? Might as well be Kal 4 Keen - Terran, i guess 3 Solar - I see a bright future for this kid 4 Sora - Who doesn't love Sora? 4 Squirtle - Rolled the IM Protoss dice 4 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]KT Rolster[/tlpd] - Their 4 of Flash Zest Stats Ty is strong
Anti Team 4 Shine - lol 4 soO - fluke 5 Super - not feeling it
On December 28 2013 11:59 lichter wrote: oh god not this again
Main Team 8 Flash (captain) - Because he will own PL again despite sucking in individual leagues 3 Jila(Kal) - Someone's gotta win on Prime right? Might as well be Kal 4 Keen - Terran, i guess 3 Solar - I see a bright future for this kid 4 Sora - Who doesn't love Sora? 4 Squirtle - Rolled the IM Protoss dice 4 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]KT Rolster[/tlpd] - Their 4 of Flash Zest Stats Ty is strong
Anti Team 4 Shine - lol 4 soO - fluke 5 Super - not feeling it
On December 28 2013 11:59 lichter wrote: oh god not this again
Main Team 8 Flash (captain) - Because he will own PL again despite sucking in individual leagues 3 Jila(Kal) - Someone's gotta win on Prime right? Might as well be Kal 4 Keen - Terran, i guess 3 Solar - I see a bright future for this kid 4 Sora - Who doesn't love Sora? 4 Squirtle - Rolled the IM Protoss dice 4 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]KT Rolster[/tlpd] - Their 4 of Flash Zest Stats Ty is strong
Anti Team 4 Shine - lol 4 soO - fluke 5 Super - not feeling it
huge mistake, literally wtf soO is playing Super in the very first match, are you insane lichter?
Main Team 4 Classic : He was adopted as a son of Aiur, after his abusive Terran Parents. Don't you fuck with that. 4 Effort : He will become a Godly Phoenix or become a dirty ass homeless smelly falcon. It's all up to him. 8 Flash (captain) : ALLAH, ALLAH, ALLAH, ALLAH, ALLAH, ALLAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (갓) 4 Sora : He is GIT, God In Training (갓습생) 2 True(Alone) : Watch him, he will destroy everyone with just banelings. 4 Yonghwa : Only hope from past ESF. ez choice. 4 : Will never disappoint... unlike my Samsung
Anti Team 4 Creator : He is the Ace for Prime...which really means nothing. He will come out in every Prime line up and lose every single games. 4 RorO : Fuck this kid. 5 Super : Why you have 5 points when I don't even know you?
On December 28 2013 12:09 ChoDing wrote: Bad Manners
Main Team 4 Classic : He was adopted as a son of Aiur, after his abusive Terran Parents. Don't you fuck with that. 4 Effort : He will become a Godly Phoenix or become a dirty ass homeless smelly falcon. It's all up to him. 8 Flash (captain) : ALLAH, ALLAH, ALLAH, ALLAH, ALLAH, ALLAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (갓) 4 Sora : He is GIT, God In Training (갓습생) 2 True(Alone) : Watch him, he will destroy everyone with just banelings. 4 Yonghwa : Only hope from past ESF. ez choice. <------ 4 KT Rolster : Will never disappoint... unlike my Samsung
Anti Team 4 Creator : He is the Ace for Prime...which really means nothing. He will come out in every Prime line up and lose every single games. 4 RorO : Fuck this kid. 5 Super : Why you have 5 points when I don't even know you?
the hell you are doing man?! You blemish the KESPPPPAAAAAA !! <_>
On December 28 2013 12:09 ChoDing wrote: Bad Manners
Main Team 4 Classic : He was adopted as a son of Aiur, after his abusive Terran Parents. Don't you fuck with that. 4 Effort : He will become a Godly Phoenix or become a dirty ass homeless smelly falcon. It's all up to him. 8 Flash (captain) : ALLAH, ALLAH, ALLAH, ALLAH, ALLAH, ALLAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (갓) 4 Sora : He is GIT, God In Training (갓습생) 2 True(Alone) : Watch him, he will destroy everyone with just banelings. 4 Yonghwa : Only hope from past ESF. ez choice. <------ 4 KT Rolster : Will never disappoint... unlike my Samsung
Anti Team 4 Creator : He is the Ace for Prime...which really means nothing. He will come out in every Prime line up and lose every single games. 4 RorO : Fuck this kid. 5 Super : Why you have 5 points when I don't even know you?
the hell you are doing man?! You blemish the KESPPPPAAAAAA !! <_>
Main Team 3 Bbyong - He was quite good, maybe he can be again. 4 Effort - Pretty good for his cost. 3 Fantasy - Meh maybe he'll get good again. 4 HerO - Who doesn't love HerO? 7 herO[jOin] (captain) - Double the herO double the fun. 4 Sora - I think this is everyone's money maker. 5 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]CJ Entus[/tlpd] - Doing a bit of a gamble on CJ here, we'll see if it pays off.
Anti Team 3 Bravo(sin) - He probably won't play much. 6 DongRaeGu - Sorry DRG ((( 4 soO - Only one I'm possibly worried about, but not too much.
On December 28 2013 12:36 StarStruck wrote: you guys should be paying attention to the opening day line-ups considering their point value will go up or be lower.
The one time I was number 1 in Fantasy PL, I stacked my team with Woongjin players and they won all their maps 2 matches in a row.
hey you can put 4 more points into that main team, just so you know. Maybe change ungnim into TY or something? Edit: didn't see TY in anti-team. You might pick super then, although you also have dream in anti-team.
hey you can put 4 more points into that main team, just so you know. Maybe change ungnim into TY or something? Edit: didn't see TY in anti-team. You might pick super then, although you also have dream in anti-team.
The rationale is that I think CJ, SKT and JinAir are the best teams so I picked 1 ace and 1 ragtag from each of the teams. JinAir team because it only costs 4.
Meanwhile Prime is bad, DRG is overrated (sorry) so there goes the anti team.
Picking a team with only 30 points isn’t that easy. The reasons for my choices are as follows: Bbyong: The games I saw him play he wasn't half bad and think he is a pretty good player for only 3 points. Fantasy: He is another player I saw a couple of times this year and he got in a couple of wins. Solar: Well he did reach the finals of a tournament in December where he lost to JaeDong, so he can't be all gloom and doom. soO: He has been around and should be a safe bet for a fantasy team. Sora: This kid played some awesome StarCraft this year. Soulkey: If he can continue his form from this year into next he will make me rich with points. CJ Entus: Coach Park!
Anti-Team: RorO: Because he makes me think of a Rolo advert. Shine: This isn't your season to shine. TY(Baby): Huh? What does it mean? No-one knows... haha
Side notes: Fantasy in your fantasy team will give them the Deja vu factor (what the hell am I talking about?). History tells me that Maru will have a bad year, but I wouldn’t bet against him so I just left him out of my team for the time being.
Ok, here we go, Creator will be playing basically every match for Prime, so hes sure to grab some easy points, Dark is Really good and underrated, so hes worth the 3(?) points. HerO is because i love him and hes protoss (Always good) herO is an obvious pick, always gunna be played and hes great for 7 points. Mvp because im hopeful he will make a sick ol' comeback in PL and go 45-0 (I wish), and Sora because hes ridiculously good and CJ in gunna win proleague, so hes good points. I picked SK Telecom because they will roll pretty much everyone most likely, so free points. On the Anti: Byul because he wont get played much and IM doesn't stand much of a chance. Dream because MVP is going to get rolled. TY because he will probably be overshadowed by Flash ad not play much, and KT isnt looking too strong. I think its a decent lineup, but hey, it might just suck.
Picked my team by looking at each team's rosters and looking at each team's depth at each race.
Bunny: CJ's Terran lineup is pretty shallow. Bunny showed promise last season and will probably see more time this season. His only competition is pretty much Bbyong, even though I like sKyHigh but he hasn't had much success in SC2. Bbyong is probably still considered their best Terran and does have the most success, but he didn't play as much last season. I picked him over Fantasy since SKT1 is too deep of a team with the addition of Soulkey and Classic.
Byul: Byul is pretty much IM's only Zerg since I doubt Nestea will play much, if not at all.
Dream and Keen: MVP's only Terrans. From the little GSTL I watched last season, these guys were usually depended on to get MVP kills. I haven't been up to date with MVP, but if DongRaeGu is still slumping, the only other player that would compete with these two for playing time is Super.
Stats and Zest: KT's main Protosses. These guys are pretty much guaranteed playing time since, like Dream and Keen, are depended on to grab KT kills.
On December 28 2013 13:40 KillahKonceptz wrote: Main Team 3 Bunny
Picked my team by looking at each team's rosters and looking at each team's depth at each race.
Bunny: CJ's Terran lineup is pretty shallow. Bunny showed promise last season and will probably see more time this season. His only competition is pretty much Bbyong, even though I like sKyHigh but he hasn't had much success in SC2. Bbyong is probably still considered their best Terran and does have the most success, but he didn't play as much last season. I picked him over Fantasy since SKT1 is too deep of a team with the addition of Soulkey and Classic.
Between herO, Sora, Hydra, Effort, and Bbyong you'll probably want to pick someone other than Bunny... He's not gonna see a lot of playtime
On December 28 2013 13:53 GTPGlitch wrote: Between herO, Sora, Hydra, Effort, and Bbyong you'll probably want to pick someone other than Bunny... He's not gonna see a lot of playtime
crap, forgot all about Sora lol. probably gonna consider swapping him out for Mvp. Proleague format probably suits Mvp's strength of strategic cheesing.
On December 28 2013 13:39 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Wow, there's a lot of DRG on antis. Makes me wonder about having him as my captain ;o
Protip: don't put high priced players as your captain.
Why?
Because you can't trade them. Should they do poorly you're stuck with them. If they were not your captain and they do poorly their value would go down allowing for a better return on a trade. If they instead did well, great, but then you didn't really need them to be your captain then because you're not going to trade a good player anyway.
With a low value player if they do poorly, oh well, you expected it and you're not out as much. It's simply hedging your bets. While I'm more likely to be stuck with a 2 point player who ends up doing nothing, I'll take that over an 8 point player who goes full foreigner that I can't get rid of.
On December 28 2013 14:29 9-BiT wrote: So what are you guys recommending for your big pointer? I'm thinking parting, but I really want to pick hero.
Flash, Maru, or hero[j] are probably your best bets because they are almost surefire aces for their team... Parting has to compete with rain, soulkey, so he's not as likely to be picked for ace. Whereas maru is only competing with sOs, and sOs hasn't shown as solid play as him, Flash is the only mediocre-good player on KT, and hero[j] as a spectacular player and also a protoss player is very likely the ace pick (especially since he's been solid/good since the hybrid league).
Anti Team 4 RorO 4 Squirtle 5 TY(Baby) This is my first time doing this but I think this is the best team. Any noobie mistakes, and should I go hero instead of rain? GLHF
Essentially I felt like doing something damn silly and I found a way to do that with Jin air. It doesn't hurt that I rather like their players and their team name is an easy one to make a pun about. My anti assumes that MVP and Samsung wont be winning much and that roro will lose things because, as a great man once said, fuck roro.
Picking a team with only 30 points isn’t that easy. The reasons for my choices are as follows: Bbyong: The games I saw him play he wasn't half bad and think he is a pretty good player for only 3 points. Fantasy: He is another player I saw a couple of times this year and he got in a couple of wins. Solar: Well he did reach the finals of a tournament in December where he lost to JaeDong, so he can't be all gloom and doom. soO: He has been around and should be a safe bet for a fantasy team. Sora: This kid played some awesome StarCraft this year. Soulkey: If he can continue his form from this year into next he will make me rich with points. CJ Entus: Coach Park!
Anti-Team: RorO: Because he makes me think of a Rolo advert. Shine: This isn't your season to shine. TY(Baby): Huh? What does it mean? No-one knows... haha
Side notes: Fantasy in your fantasy team will give them the Deja vu factor (what the hell am I talking about?). History tells me that Maru will have a bad year, but I wouldn’t bet against him so I just left him out of my team for the time being.
Main Team 3 Bbyong -He will see a lot of play time as the best terran on CJ while his team should have a fairly successful season. Cheap and some guaranteed points. He's not a shabby player for himself, too... 7 herO[jOin] -I've always picked herO since the very beginning, not going to stop doing it now... 4 Sora -An uprising player, hope he is worth his 4 points. Should do fairly well if he keeps his trend of wrecking everyone. 1 sorry (captain) -The only 1-pointer on SKT and I expect them to have a good/great season. I don't think I'll trade him away as there almost never is a good player you could trade a 1-pointer for. 8 Soulkey -CONSISTENCY! Will see a lot of play time and has some easy matchups during the first week... Might be trading him away if that changes. 4 Squirtle -Wanted to pick Trap first but Squirtle has some fairly easy week 1 matches... Should win both and I can still trade him after that.
3 Incredible Miracle -Cheap team with some fairly easy matches in the first week. They play twice in the first week, unlike CJ and JinAir. Will trade them later!
Anti Team 6 DongRaeGu -I don't think that MVP will do great and neither will DRG. Up against PartinG and not fielded in their second match of the week. Should be a (fairly) safe pick for a 6-pointer. 4 RorO -Fuck RorO, just because. 3 Turn -Another Samsung player and he won't play in their first match.
SKT has a ridiculously strong roster overall -- I had to spend max points on my team choice and wouldn't compromise on that (or Parting being captain for that matter) so I had a bit of number crunching to do for the rest. Wanted at least another SKT member on my FPL team so I went with soO because it also satisfied my need for a zerg and a solid 4pter.
CJ Entus is 2nd strongest team lineup imo, so I chose 2 CJ players (Sora, Bbyong) who are definitely going to do damage and are relatively affordable at 4 and 3pts respectively. Took on HerO because protoss, and well, he's HerO. Coca was the hardest to go with but I needed a 2, and he's a prodigal son who returned to SC2 so I'll just have faith~
As for my antis, not much thought tbh. MVP/DRG fit the math and the fact I just wanted to go heel a bit (also choosing DRG as anti when he's going up against Parting already in w1 makes sense since Parting's my captain). Roro because sometimes you gotta go with the crowd.
Chose Bbyong because I needed a terran in the 3-4 point range and seeing as hes the best terran on his team he should see some fair game time. I would have chosen Fantasy, but with SKT's line up, I cant see him getting played much. Plus, cos hes on CJ I should get my bonus +1 point for a majority of the time.
Dream because I watched him in IEM and its obvious he has some skill. Seeing hes on the lineup twice for MVP, its an obvious indication hes gonna get lots of playtime. Although he'll most likely lose his first match, Im expecting atleast one win.
Maru because hes solid, gonna be played a heap and hes been my favourite player since WCS KR S2.
feel soO is pretty underrated, and although hes not gonna get played that much, ill get my +1 for his team more often than not. Plus, needed a Z.
Sora because P & im hoping for another 14-0.
Trap because hes good and is always gonna be played, plus he has seemingly strong PvP
Probably gonna get stomped, but this is my first year of being into SC and my first time in FPL (:. Any tips would be nice.
PartinG - Um, well, fanboy. (His PvP is pretty good so I'm not too worried) herO - He's on fire and the relatively clear ace of one of the best teams. Imo the definite best choice of the big pointers. Squirtle - Week 1 opponents: TerrOr and Sniper Sora - There were a lot of good 4 pointers to choose from. In the end, I chose Sora simply because he's the best overall player at that point range imo. (YongHwa and ByuL haven't had great results lately. Dream has tapered off a bit and has tough matchups.) Bbyong - 3 points? CoCa - Not playing this week unfortunately, but I needed a Zerg, and I think he'll be good value in the future. Maybe I should've picked Byul instead of Sora and then been open to trade for him next week. Hmm...
IM - Week 1 opponents: Prime and MVP. Hoping to be able to trade up for Jin Air or CJ after week 1.
DRG - Only playing 1 out of 2 matches. ByuN - Playing 0 out of 2 matches. RorO - I like to live dangerously.
Like many in this thread, I also committed the cardinal sin of putting Roro on my anti. I swear I'm switching him out though the second he gets rostered to play.
Classic, when he switched to P, absolutely WRECKED. Yes, he is outshined by PartinG and Rain, but I think he will get some playtime (especially if he is already guaranteed a game in week one). EffOrt was extremely strong last season. I think he will do the same. Hydra also was extremely strong last season and I think he will do the same. Mvp? Only 3 points? Come on... he isn't in THAT much of a slump... Trap has proven to be a strong player in Code S play and in team leagues. TY was solid as one of 8th team's aces last year. Seeing that he will play this week gives me promise that he will play regularly. Jin Air only 4 points? What a bargain!
Byul getting 2nd at WCS AM honestly doesn't speak too much about his play. He has potential but watching him, I don't think he can stand up to some of the top tier koreans he will inevitably be playing, especially as an ace for Prime. Dream will be wrecked by Rain this first game. I don't think he is bad, but I don't think he is all that great either, and I don't think he has any PL experience. Super doesn't have any PL experience either, and if GSL speaks for skill, he will be destroyed by soO (although a RO16 finish in GSL ain't bad)
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Any suggestions between Byul , Yonghwa , Dream and Creator , who will get me more points this week ? I personally don't like any of them and will trade them the week after , but i need to pick one for this week ...
On December 28 2013 16:54 raga4ka wrote: Any suggestions between Byul , Yonghwa , Dream and Creator , who will get me more points this week ? I personally don't like any of them and will trade them the week after , but i need to pick one for this week ...
You could try Dream because he's playing twice. I'd avoid Creator as he's playing Rain Byul is also playing twice and so is Yonghwa, although Yonghwa is playing Remember and Creator, whom Id say are easier than Remember and Dream. Also Yongwha is highly likely to get +2 for winning both matches this week.
I guess it made no sense making DRG the captain and he only plays once in week 1. Soulkey, Yonghwa, and Squirtle all could play twice and I think they can win all their games (except Yonghwa against Keen). Trap is also likely to win his game, and he's yet another on IM (team plays twice in week 1).
7 herO[jOin] -I've always picked herO since the very beginning, not going to stop doing it now...
Agreed, I picked him and made him captain even when I knew very little of the KESPA players, just a random feeling and a couple of decent outings in that first WCS season the kespa players competed in. He's still my captain today, and will do very well I'm sure!
Main Team 3 Bbyong -> Cheap, will play a lot and CJ! 2 Coca (captain) -> Hopefully will get some plays and I think Jin Air will win some games so he's a good low pointer. 7 herO[jOin] -> Instant pick because he's the best CJ player. 4 Sora -> Should be a solid 4 points pick and he's also from CJ! 6 Stats -> Probably the best KT Protoss. Hopefully will do well in PvP-League. 3 Stork -> Stork because he's my favourite player. Gogo beat Maru! 5 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]CJ Entus[/tlpd]
Anti Team 6 DongRaeGu -> I like DRG but he's only playing once and against a beast at that. Plus he's a high pointer. 4 Keen -> Don't think Keen will do well, let's see! 3 Mvp -> Mvp will probably not get seeded a lot. Plus I don't like him that much so it's no problem to put him on anti!
edit: I think I'll swap out Hydra, his stats don't look very well and he's not guaranteed to play. Now I've chosen Stats instead of Hydra. Funnily enough Stats is playing Hydra in Week 1.
Alright... after reading the FPL basic strategy tips I realized one thing: Squirtle is a must pick. He's playing both vs Prime and MVP, both time vs Zergs. I believe he can win both of those games so I had to pick him! I also scrapped Stork because ... well to be honest his chances are slim against Maru. I'll cheer for him regardless. No Coca anymore either, as I needed a 1 Pointer so that the rest could stay.
As always, I tried to get people who might play a lot, eventually on Ace slot. I considered Flash on anti, but... It's Flash. Never good to bet against him. I wanted to put sHy or Maru instead of BaBy, but I had to put a 3 pointer and they didn't appeal to me...
I'd trade soO for Byul. He has the advantage of possibly playing twice this week and I think he's more likely to win his games than soO is against Super.
Then find some way to get Squirtle in. He's also playing twice and against pretty manageable opponents.
Probably trade Fantasy for Bbyong too.
Make Bbyong or one of your other low-pointers the captain, not Maru.
I'd trade soO for Byul. He has the advantage of possibly playing twice this week and I think he's more likely to win his games than soO is against Super.
Then find some way to get Squirtle in. He's also playing twice and against pretty manageable opponents.
Probably trade Fantasy for Bbyong too.
Make Bbyong or one of your other low-pointers the captain, not Maru.
I'd trade soO for Byul. He has the advantage of possibly playing twice this week and I think he's more likely to win his games than soO is against Super.
Then find some way to get Squirtle in. He's also playing twice and against pretty manageable opponents.
Probably trade Fantasy for Bbyong too.
Make Bbyong or one of your other low-pointers the captain, not Maru.
Thanks was thinkin about zest as team captain
You get no additional points if you captain wins games. So making a low pointer captain has the advantage that you can still swap out every player with high cost. You can't swap out captains so if your captain ends up disappointing that's really bad.
Main Team 3 Bbyong - I think he is underrated. Good 3 pointer. Coach Park seems to be always sending his strongest players even in preseason and he is sending Bbyong the first match. That should say enough.
2 Coca - Another underrated player. Even though he is not playing first match, I believe he will get his chances and will be rotating with Terminator and Savage. Out of those, I believe CoCa is strongest and 2 points for him are great value, imo.
7 herO[jOin] - best protoss player in the world atm and he doesn't even cost the most. Awesome.
1 Hush (captain) - 1 point for Bong? I think they made a mistake and thought Hush is a newcomer, while it is just a rename of Bong. Bong was last season played almost in every match with 4-11 record in HotS. While this is by no means a stellar record, for 1 point? Getting it, kthx! (Also he didn't race switch to zerg, he is still protoss). Also is on CJ, so even if he doesn't play, he will score me some points just for CJ wins.
7 Maru - Probably the best terran player in Proleague. Good deal.
4 Squirtle - Favourable first matchups, hoping he will win both and then trade him next week.
6 - Favourable first two matchups, probably the strongest team around.
Anti Team 6 DongRaeGu - Was very hard to choose anti this time around, mostly to the limited selection of 5 and 6 point players. Baby, Hydra, Stats and Zest are players that I would never want on my anti team. While I think at least one of the KT protosses may be a tiny bit overrated, I still think they will be scoring a lot. Super is a player that I believe more then DRG to perform well in a team league. And in the end, DRG is only playing 1 match of 2 the first week, with not very favourable matchup. Mostly just believe he will lose that, hope he will maybe also lose some ace match and then trade him away for someone who is not really ace-caliber player.
4 Reality - Well, another one who doesn't play first round and while I believe he will be good for Samsung, I just hope I will be able to trade him before he does some unrecoverable damage to my team.
I'd trade soO for Byul. He has the advantage of possibly playing twice this week and I think he's more likely to win his games than soO is against Super.
Then find some way to get Squirtle in. He's also playing twice and against pretty manageable opponents.
Probably trade Fantasy for Bbyong too.
Make Bbyong or one of your other low-pointers the captain, not Maru.
Thanks was thinkin about zest as team captain
You get no additional points if you captain wins games. So making a low pointer captain has the advantage that you can still swap out every player with high cost. You can't swap out captains so if your captain ends up disappointing that's really bad.
In a the case of a tie, the points the captain has is the tiebreaker. So you can make a high pointer your captain if you are sure he will perform consistently throughout the round.
On December 28 2013 19:42 Ammanas wrote: 1 Hush (captain) - 1 point for Bong? I think they made a mistake and thought Hush is a newcomer, while it is just a rename of Bong. Bong was last season played almost in every match with 4-11 record in HotS. While this is by no means a stellar record, for 1 point? Getting it, kthx! (Also he didn't race switch to zerg, he is still protoss). Also is on CJ, so even if he doesn't play, he will score me some points just for CJ wins.
I'll trust your CJ knowledge and hope he's really Bong so that I won't need to pick a Zerg. Haha. Switched him with rare.
I'm sure there's some nuances I'm missing, but I think I have 4 amazing Protosses, a possibly amazing Zerg in Coca, and a solid Terran in Reality. SKT1 was an easy pick.
DRG, Liquid HerO, and LGIM MVP just aren't the players they used to be. I actually feel more confident in my anti-team than my team. Proleague is going to eat these guys alive.
I didn't really pay much attention to possible ace players or players on good teams. I don't know what the relative importance of those things is, but hopefully it doesn't hurt me too badly. Feedback is welcome!
On December 28 2013 19:42 Ammanas wrote: 1 Hush (captain) - 1 point for Bong? I think they made a mistake and thought Hush is a newcomer, while it is just a rename of Bong. Bong was last season played almost in every match with 4-11 record in HotS. While this is by no means a stellar record, for 1 point? Getting it, kthx! (Also he didn't race switch to zerg, he is still protoss). Also is on CJ, so even if he doesn't play, he will score me some points just for CJ wins.
I'll trust your CJ knowledge and hope he's really Bong so that I won't need to pick a Zerg. Haha. Switched him with rare.
The reason I made him my captain is that in 2013 he came from nowhere and had a great season. I believe he will build on last season and will be worth a lot of points, so he is basically a steal for 4 points
First time, so I really don't know what I am doing :D
Main Team Reasoning Bbyong and Hydra seem to be pretty good, and from what I can gather are good vP I haven't actually seen any of HerO's games, but after hearing all the hype and looking at his recent results, he seems like a solid pick. Trap is one of my favourite Protosses (followed him through the most recent GSL), and a good one to boot. He performed pretty well in the GSTL (I think getting the 3rd most kills in the league?) and did pretty well in Proleague when STX Soul still existed. T_T I had space left for a 1 pointer, and couldn't decide, so I just shamelessly copied someone else in this thread and picked Sorry.^^
Anti Team 6 DongRaeGu - Was very hard to choose anti this time around, mostly to the limited selection of 5 and 6 point players. Baby, Hydra, Stats and Zest are players that I would never want on my anti team. While I think at least one of the KT protosses may be a tiny bit overrated, I still think they will be scoring a lot. Super is a player that I believe more then DRG to perform well in a team league. And in the end, DRG is only playing 1 match of 2 the first week, with not very favourable matchup. Mostly just believe he will lose that, hope he will maybe also lose some ace match and then trade him away for someone who is not really ace-caliber player.
4 Reality - Well, another one who doesn't play first round and while I believe he will be good for Samsung, I just hope I will be able to trade him before he does some unrecoverable damage to my team.
Main Team 3 Bbyong if I'm going to switch someone it's him, at least first round. He's playing zest, but he's super underrated good pick for 3. Suggestions please! 7 herO[jOin] good player, 7 points, team ace, and good player again. 4 Sora 4 POINTS WTF 1 sorry (captain) 1 point on skt, allows me to get another ace, who is... 8 Soulkey the big boss soulkey, not much to say about him. 4 Squirtle I wanted trap but squirtle has 2 auto wins, after that I'm trading him off for what he did to MVP. 3 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]Incredible Miracle[/tlpd] a good first 2 matchups, but I'm trading immediately.
Anti Team 3 Byun I love byun to death but he's on a sinking ship. This would be my second choice to switch. 6 DongRaeGu overpriced, with bad week 1 matchups. 4 RorO why does everyone hate him so much? I'm just boarding the train.
Main Team 3 Bbyong -He will see a lot of play time as the best terran on CJ while his team should have a fairly successful season. Cheap and some guaranteed points. He's not a shabby player for himself, too... 7 herO[jOin] -I've always picked herO since the very beginning, not going to stop doing it now... 4 Sora -An uprising player, hope he is worth his 4 points. Should do fairly well if he keeps his trend of wrecking everyone. 1 sorry (captain) -The only 1-pointer on SKT and I expect them to have a good/great season. I don't think I'll trade him away as there almost never is a good player you could trade a 1-pointer for. 8 Soulkey -CONSISTENCY! Will see a lot of play time and has some easy matchups during the first week... Might be trading him away if that changes. 4 Squirtle -Wanted to pick Trap first but Squirtle has some fairly easy week 1 matches... Should win both and I can still trade him after that.
3 Incredible Miracle -Cheap team with some fairly easy matches in the first week. They play twice in the first week, unlike CJ and JinAir. Will trade them later!
Anti Team 6 DongRaeGu -I don't think that MVP will do great and neither will DRG. Up against PartinG and not fielded in their second match of the week. Should be a (fairly) safe pick for a 6-pointer. 4 RorO -Fuck RorO, just because. 3 Turn -Another Samsung player and he won't play in their first match.
On December 28 2013 21:39 9-BiT wrote: I think I'm switching bbyong off, who should I replace him with?
I wouldn't recommend switching Bbyong off a main team (he should never be anywhere near an anti-team though) as I don't think there's a comparable player for 3 points short of maybe Bravo. Solar could be great or could be kind of mediocre (he's looked great recently but is still new to playing if offline settings), so I'd recommend keeping Bbyong but if not, get one of those two.
On December 28 2013 21:39 9-BiT wrote: I think I'm switching bbyong off, who should I replace him with?
I wouldn't recommend switching Bbyong off a main team (he should never be anywhere near an anti-team though) as I don't think there's a comparable player for 3 points short of maybe Bravo. Solar could be great or could be kind of mediocre (he's looked great recently but is still new to playing if offline settings), so I'd recommend keeping Bbyong but if not, get one of those two.
I just hate keeping him on there when he has a super hard matchup round one. I was planning on picking him up after round 1. You think I should just stick through?
On December 28 2013 21:39 9-BiT wrote: I think I'm switching bbyong off, who should I replace him with?
I wouldn't recommend switching Bbyong off a main team (he should never be anywhere near an anti-team though) as I don't think there's a comparable player for 3 points short of maybe Bravo. Solar could be great or could be kind of mediocre (he's looked great recently but is still new to playing if offline settings), so I'd recommend keeping Bbyong but if not, get one of those two.
I just hate keeping him on there when he has a super hard matchup round one. I was planning on picking him up after round 1. You think I should just stick through?
I think Bbyong will beat Zest. When he last played herO (the CJ one, who most would argue is Zest's better in PvT) he won 2-0 and made it look pretty easy. It was online, granted, but it should tell you something about his potential. I'd stick with him.
On December 28 2013 21:39 9-BiT wrote: I think I'm switching bbyong off, who should I replace him with?
I wouldn't recommend switching Bbyong off a main team (he should never be anywhere near an anti-team though) as I don't think there's a comparable player for 3 points short of maybe Bravo. Solar could be great or could be kind of mediocre (he's looked great recently but is still new to playing if offline settings), so I'd recommend keeping Bbyong but if not, get one of those two.
I just hate keeping him on there when he has a super hard matchup round one. I was planning on picking him up after round 1. You think I should just stick through?
I think Bbyong will beat Zest. When he last played herO (the CJ one, who most would argue is Zest's better in PvT) he won 2-0 and made it look pretty easy. It was online, granted, but it should tell you something about his potential. I'd stick with him.
Thanks zealous <3 And I think IM is a serious value play round 1. I'm just worried I'm going to have to restructure a lot to get IM off after this.
Bbyong - sick underrated incredibly solid gonna be switching him and Bunny up ( perhaps other terrans) Effort - Quite good sadly not in lineup but will play this round is cool herO - Has always been good and is even better now my captain and ace he will lead cj to victory. Hush - needed a 1 pointer and he will get points for his amazing team Hydra - sick good and did well in iem is great vs toss which is good in PL Sora - What can I say this kid is amazing and will crush. CJ Entus - Won me over with their foreign interaction , Coach Park , nice uniform and sick good players! I even like their tosses and Bunny is gonna be amazing! CJ is now my Kespa team here's to Acer and CJ!
Anti team Creator - on prime not that good anymore. Roro - Fuck him Super - he is good but I think he will fail hard in PL :D
On December 28 2013 22:23 ImpactSC wrote: Is it worth going IM for week 1 and then switching? Also, will it be easy/possible to switch to say.. SKT & a few points weaker player/s?
IM might lose against MVP and that would be bad because then you can't trade after that, very well. Idk how good Dream and Sniper are.
I re-made my team in the hope that it would make the TL Forum Code appear but it's still not there! D:< I had to manually make this. :"( [Edited to add reasons] If mods can check that your team is *actually* made, I'd like confirmation from mods that nothing has gone wrong with mine, just because those codes were never appearing, when they did last season.
Sorry about the oracles (◕,◕)
Main Team 8 Soulkey (Captain) I think he's in good form, made me a big fan throughout the year and he is one of the zergs still impressing + Woongjin forever! Given that he's somewhat expensive, his value probably wouldn't go up much even if he performs well, so I wanted to free up some probably underrated, good but cheaper players for possible later trading. 4 Sora At first I thought he was good but probably over-hyped but then he did do very well at the World Cyber Games Finals of 2013, losing to Soulkey. He only costs 4 points because he's up against Flash, who is good, but not in form right now. Oh, did I mention Parting came third in that tournament? 7 PartinG Oh, here he is! A devastating protoss in great form who is playing twice this week and plays for SKT T1. Is DongRaeGu expected to pose a strong challenge? I suppose he must be,, because otherwise I don't understand why he doesn't cost 8 points. 4 Squirtle I was going to put Teamliquid's HerO here until I discovered Squirtle's form and he is also one of my favourite protosses. They both are protosses I prefer, actually, but Squirtle is definitely higher on my list. I also feel like people picking YongHwa over Squirtle or HerO right now are likely making a mistake. 3 Bbyong Underrated player who has been a pretty solid player overall. A great terran to get for only 3 points and CJ may perform well this season. 1 Sorry 1 point SKT player for team points, also allows for a good team name. He might not have the easiest game this week and he is against a protoss, but I don't remember seeing the blood-swept, citrus-rid nibbling Wooki being as fearsome in recent times.
Team: 3 Incredible Miracle Cheaper than SKT by a mile, has two games this week also and does seem at least the slight favourite against MVP as well as strongly favoured vs Prime. I like IM a lot and saving three points here means I can have a pretty fearsome player line-up.
Anti Team 6 DongRaeGu He's certainly not in his worst form ever but I see him as a good candidate for the anti-team. Stats hasn't been great since HotS as far as I'm aware but he was a pretty solid player before that and overall protoss are...well it's debated, but I agree that they're doing well, so he might get back into form. DRG seems a safer bet to me. 3 Jila(Kal) I haven't seen much of him but from what I have, I believe Kal has been rubbish so far in HotS. I doubt that'll change in the near future at least. 4 RorO Not to be a hipster or anything, but I was totally ahead of most of you guys in considering putting RorO on my anti-team. That said, I as debating between Reality, Keen and RorO and went for the bet that Samsung Can't.
Hope things can actually go right for me this time
You know that you're 6 points over the requirement for the anti-team, right?
I never follow those requirement. I just put whoever I don't like on anti-team (DRG is a special case though, since I like him but he's been pretty bad lately )
this is my first time and i have a question to the captain.
Right now, parting is captain, but i have coca on my team and i am pretty sure i would never change him (2points). Besides being afraid that coca would go inactive mid season, is there any reason to not make coca my captain?
Grovbille, don't encourage others to catch us in our future points! :o
On December 28 2013 22:49 Stoffelhase wrote: this is my first time and i have a question to the captain.
Right now, parting is captain, but I have coca on my team and i am pretty sure i would never change him (2points). Besides being afraid that coca would go inactive mid season, is there any reason to not make coca my captain?
Not unless you think he might be used and play well, where him being your captain would mean that you couldn't trade him at his newer, higher value. I would personally put a lot of belief in Parting being consistent and if he is, he won't be worth trading even if he went up to 9 or 10 points, I think, so I'd just leave those two as they are. That's just the opinion of one person though.
On December 28 2013 16:10 FuRong wrote: Like many in this thread, I also committed the cardinal sin of putting Roro on my anti. I swear I'm switching him out though the second he gets rostered to play.
On December 28 2013 10:46 BLinD-RawR wrote: First Rule of FPL, never, ever ever ever ever put roro in your anti team.
yeah all those people are crazy/zealous
Edit: Spoiler the whole thing cuz it was bit 2 long, also added poll!
Poll: RorO in your anti-team?
Fuck Roro. (10)
36%
RorO is gona fuck you boys up. (10)
36%
I have balls. (6)
21%
I'm hesitant and prolly gona remove him as soon as he is fielded. (1)
4%
Dunno what I'm doing but actually I think he is a good player. (1)
4%
28 total votes
Your vote: RorO in your anti-team?
(Vote): Fuck Roro. (Vote): I have balls. (Vote): I'm hesitant and prolly gona remove him as soon as he is fielded. (Vote): RorO is gona fuck you boys up. (Vote): Dunno what I'm doing but actually I think he is a good player.
On December 28 2013 16:10 FuRong wrote: Like many in this thread, I also committed the cardinal sin of putting Roro on my anti. I swear I'm switching him out though the second he gets rostered to play.
On December 28 2013 16:10 FuRong wrote: Like many in this thread, I also committed the cardinal sin of putting Roro on my anti. I swear I'm switching him out though the second he gets rostered to play.
Main Team 0 Barbie - "fantasy pl said i have to have one player per race" 2 Dark - "he beat maru" 8 Flash (captain) - "its God-Young-Ho for fucks sakes" 3 Hitman - "he is from kt" 7 Maru - "probably the best terran today" 5 TY(Baby) - "i feel like he is gonna snipe the shit out of everyone later" 4 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]KT Rolster[/tlpd] - "even though SKT is full of absurdly broken lineup .. one can dream right ?"
Anti Team 8 sOs(Shy) - i dont like sos 4 Squirtle - he is protoss 1 Trust - he is protoss
I'm pretty sure that herO is better in the long run (especially because PartinG has a lot of competition inside SKT), but in this week his match can really go either way, while PartinG plays twice, has only to prepare vs zerg on a single map, both matches are definitely winnable for him + SKT should win both (and I'm not so sure about CJ winning).
Please help me decide... PartinG now and then hope I'll be able to trade him for herO, or should I start with herO?
I'm pretty sure about my anti though: Anti Team 4 RorO 6 Stats 3 Turn RorO - not playing, I'll probably trade him at some point. Stats - not bad, but most likely overrated at 6. It's still risky, because KT doesn't have a deep roster, so he'll probably play a lot... Turn - not playing + I think he's not very good + I don't think his team will do well this season.
On December 28 2013 23:18 dehydrogenaza wrote: Hardest decision: PartinG or herO?
I'm pretty sure that herO is better in the long run (especially because PartinG has a lot of competition inside SKT), but in this week his match can really go either way, while PartinG plays twice, has only to prepare vs zerg on a single map, both matches are definitely winnable for him + SKT should win both (and I'm not so sure about CJ winning).
Please help me decide... PartinG now and then hope I'll be able to trade him for herO, or should I start with herO?
I'm pretty sure about my anti though: Anti Team 4 RorO 6 Stats 3 Turn RorO - not playing, I'll probably trade him at some point. Stats - not bad, but most likely overrated at 6. It's still risky, because KT doesn't have a deep roster, so he'll probably play a lot... Turn - not playing + I think he's not very good + I don't think his team will do well this season.
herO is a good pick .. he is beating alot of people now a days ..
On December 28 2013 23:13 goody153 wrote: notoss team
Main Team 0 Barbie - "fantasy pl said i have to have one player per race" 2 Dark - "he beat maru" 8 Flash (captain) - "its God-Young-Ho for fucks sakes" 3 Hitman - "he is from kt" 7 Maru - "probably the best terran today" 5 TY(Baby) - "i feel like he is gonna snipe the shit out of everyone later" 4 [tlpd#teams##sc2-korean]KT Rolster[/tlpd] - "even though SKT is full of absurdly broken lineup .. one can dream right ?"
Anti Team 8 sOs(Shy) - i dont like sos 4 Squirtle - he is protoss 1 Trust - he is protoss
On December 28 2013 23:35 StutteR wrote: Are all you guys putting Roro on your anti-team as a joke?
nobody likes roro. The smart ones put rOrO on their team.
It's not like we hate RorO, last time I removed him for not losing even more. This time I'm just picking him because he is a 4 pointer that is not fielded.
On December 28 2013 23:35 StutteR wrote: Are all you guys putting Roro on your anti-team as a joke?
nobody likes roro. The smart ones put rOrO on their team.
It's not like we hate RorO, last time I removed him for not losing even more. This time I'm just picking him because he is a 4 pointer that is not fielded.
Khan only has one game in the opening week and yes they aren't fielding him against Wings, but Khan will be using him a lot. Look at their line-up and compare it to everyone else. It's very weak and even then Khan is known for using him a lot. Sure, January is gone, but the funny thing about that is she's known for running a Protoss gauntlet (we cannot even call it that anymore) yet she used RorO a lot. I think that says quite a bit about their reliance on him. I expect to see a lot of people trying to trade him before they do start seeing a whole lot more of him.
On December 28 2013 22:49 Stoffelhase wrote: this is my first time and i have a question to the captain.
Right now, parting is captain, but I have coca on my team and i am pretty sure i would never change him (2points). Besides being afraid that coca would go inactive mid season, is there any reason to not make coca my captain?
Not unless you think he might be used and play well, where him being your captain would mean that you couldn't trade him at his newer, higher value. I would personally put a lot of belief in Parting being consistent and if he is, he won't be worth trading even if he went up to 9 or 10 points, I think, so I'd just leave those two as they are. That's just the opinion of one person though.
ah, thank you. I didnt even know points are changing mid season I'll let it be, let's see.
On December 28 2013 23:54 GumBa wrote: Im starting to think super on anti aint good. Any ideas guys?
Pick players who won't be heavily relied upon because you will most likely have to get rid of them very, very soon. Remember it's only the opening week-- use it to your advantage (that's why picking RorO isn't necessarily a bad thing the first week, but his point value won't be getting any lower this week so you really have to pay attention to the match-ups-- you have no idea who he will be playing first so you better hope someone who is of equal value bombs hard in their first match for the tradeoff). I believe there's also a limit to how many trades you can make on your anti so tread carefully unless you think a player is really going to tank hard in the opening few weeks of the round. Picking guys like Flash is ridiculously risky because at their point value it's going to take a really long time for their point value to decrease and they'll have to lose a lot of games in a row.
One other thing to avoid is picking a lot of players who play on the same team because you lose out on repetitions in this format. It isn't the standard 6 games and Ace match if need be. We're talking about best of fives, so you really want to make sure you have a good spread of players that you know you will see a lot of.
I picked Fantasy because he's Fantasy, solid pick and cheap this time around. Same for Bbyong. Parting (captain) is going to play (and win) a lot of games, and HerO + Sora makes for a well rounded Toss line up. Sniper because I needed a zerg and he is a cheap GSL champion.
Anti = DRG, think Parting's got his number, MVP because I doubt he will play much and Terminator 'cause he fucked me over last season.
On December 28 2013 23:54 GumBa wrote: Im starting to think super on anti aint good. Any ideas guys?
Dunno your full lineup, but assuming you don't want to make any drastic changes and since TY is the only other 5 pointer in this thing, I'd swap him for Super. They both are only on the known lineups once, but MVP plays twice this week(Super might appear in an ace match). Also, Super comes out in less than 3 games to play, CJ 3-0'ing KT isn't out of the question at all thus eliminating TY's opportunity, and frankly I think soO is a lot easier than TY's opponent which is herO...
oh, and for the hell of it, he's protoss :p
long-term I think TY is probably more valuable than Super though. Mainly because I expect KT to be more reliant on him, MVP has a bit more depth.
Those who put Flash as Anti Team . We are enemies.
What is this, Brood War?
Who'd put EffOrt on Anti team on BW, though.
Keke, I checked week1 lineup, I feel they maybe appear line up often, and maybe they are low score with high potential. So I use them, since Flash is so expensive.
On December 28 2013 23:54 GumBa wrote: Im starting to think super on anti aint good. Any ideas guys?
Dunno your full lineup, but assuming you don't want to make any drastic changes and since TY is the only other 5 pointer in this thing, I'd swap him for Super. They both are only on the known lineups once, but MVP plays twice this week(Super might appear in an ace match). Also, Super comes out in less than 3 games to play, CJ 3-0'ing KT isn't out of the question at all thus eliminating TY's opportunity, and frankly I think soO is a lot easier than TY's opponent which is herO...
oh, and for the hell of it, he's protoss :p
long-term I think TY is probably more valuable than Super though. Mainly because I expect KT to be more reliant on him, MVP has a bit more depth.
The big guns for KT are Flash, Zest and Stats. You will see those guys a lot. hitmaN, Action and HoeJJa will be rotated. Depending on how BaBy is playing he'll be tossed in from time to time, but remember we'll see a lot of PvP's than anything else in the current state. When BaBy does make it in the lineup beware. Guys like RorO and BaBy you want to have slow starts so you can trade them off your team asap. If you keep them your - will add up and eventually you won't be able to get rid of them. ;/
On December 28 2013 16:10 FuRong wrote: Like many in this thread, I also committed the cardinal sin of putting Roro on my anti. I swear I'm switching him out though the second he gets rostered to play.
On December 28 2013 10:46 BLinD-RawR wrote: First Rule of FPL, never, ever ever ever ever put roro in your anti team.
yeah all those people are crazy/zealous
Edit: Spoiler the whole thing cuz it was bit 2 long, also added poll!
Poll: RorO in your anti-team?
Fuck Roro. (10)
36%
RorO is gona fuck you boys up. (10)
36%
I have balls. (6)
21%
I'm hesitant and prolly gona remove him as soon as he is fielded. (1)
4%
Dunno what I'm doing but actually I think he is a good player. (1)
4%
28 total votes
Your vote: RorO in your anti-team?
(Vote): Fuck Roro. (Vote): I have balls. (Vote): I'm hesitant and prolly gona remove him as soon as he is fielded. (Vote): RorO is gona fuck you boys up. (Vote): Dunno what I'm doing but actually I think he is a good player.
---Update---
Anti-RorO'ers now got their own FPL group! With the 1 strict rule of you have to leave as soon as you remove RorO from your anti-team.
Ok so anti team is now: Stats - counting on him losing vs cj and dont think he is a 6 pointer Shine - not playing and his team will lose Roro - not playing team will lose fuck him
Hopefully you guys get to trade off those guys. If you are expecting them to have slow starts then you are positioning yourself properly, but in order to win (and something I can hardly keep up with when it comes to myself) is making your trades when you can because they will eventually start earning points against you so you really do have to learn when and how to trade certain players off.
On December 29 2013 01:22 crazyweasel wrote: which one of IM's toss is best to pick?
I see good potential in trap (3rd wcs, beat very good players to reach that place) and squirtle (ace ?) while we know yongwha's pvp is beast.
For week 1? Squirtle. Strong, plays twice guaranteed, and he has what appear to be easy opponents.
Long-term: ...hard call. This would be easy if First was still around. Going to go with Yonghwa on this.
You forgot about the Trap card. I had to make the same choice but ultimately I settled for Trap above the other IM tosses because he has shown a lot of consistency over time and has been clutch and important for STX in the past. Believe me though, the choice was very difficult, YongHwa is extremely good in team leagues but I just haven't seen any games of his recently.
to all the bbyong pickers.. hes been doing really well but his w1 opponent is zest :D. if he loses his 1st match that kinda kills his value and then effort is most likely going to replace him, i initially had him on my team but then swapped him out
but yea its hard to find good value for terrans. ty for 5 pts is really good (even if hes playing vs hero), maru is the safest pick for w1 and dream is also quite underrated and might surprise a few ppl (most likely MVP's ace along with super). hes 2-0 lifetime vs rain and he'll probably beat byun. also picking sorry is a decent strat, 1 pter + terran + skt pts.
I might be too busy at that time to manage trades and if I go with no trades (or so) I better just pick the team I like the most. So I went full Jin Air. It's really not a good pick for the first week. For the first week, I'd rather focus on SKT and IM and then trade some. But as I said, probably won't be able to manage the required trades for this later.
Your anti team is at 20 points.. fyi. Try to keep it down to 13 guys. Some of you really ought to read about the rules. I find it hard to believe that a lot of these were intentional lol.
On December 29 2013 02:40 StarStruck wrote: Your anti team is at 20 points.. fyi. Try to keep it down to 13 guys. Some of you really ought to read about the rules. I find it hard to believe that a lot of these were intentional lol.
well counter-FPL is a thing. I figure full main Prime & anti Flash/Rain/herO might be the best way
On December 29 2013 02:40 StarStruck wrote: Your anti team is at 20 points.. fyi. Try to keep it down to 13 guys. Some of you really ought to read about the rules. I find it hard to believe that a lot of these were intentional lol.
I thought with an anti team it just had to be over 13?
On December 29 2013 02:40 StarStruck wrote: Your anti team is at 20 points.. fyi. Try to keep it down to 13 guys. Some of you really ought to read about the rules. I find it hard to believe that a lot of these were intentional lol.
well counter-FPL is a thing. I figure full main Prime & anti Flash/Rain/herO might be the best way
Counter-FPL is the real mans FPL Everyone is trash
On December 29 2013 01:22 crazyweasel wrote: which one of IM's toss is best to pick?
I see good potential in trap (3rd wcs, beat very good players to reach that place) and squirtle (ace ?) while we know yongwha's pvp is beast.
Squirtle!
Guys, don't forget HerO is also playing for IM, I suppose they will rotate the ace between the better Protosses. HerO and Trap are the only ones with PL experience, so I guess they'll feature as ace quite often.
On December 29 2013 02:55 AlternativeEgo wrote: eMotion gonna wreck your team, Fusilero. Consider trade for UngNim.
Idk I feel like IM is going to win more matches than samsung so I went with emotion, ungnim might be a bit of a wildcard prospect. That being said upon further evaluation I see that emotion has been active in those online tournaments and he's up this week, perhaps I should consider the trade. I feel like in the long run emotion might pay off over ungim due to IM points Trade done, I'm feeling this roster
On December 29 2013 01:22 crazyweasel wrote: which one of IM's toss is best to pick?
I see good potential in trap (3rd wcs, beat very good players to reach that place) and squirtle (ace ?) while we know yongwha's pvp is beast.
Squirtle!
Guys, don't forget HerO is also playing for IM, I suppose they will rotate the ace between the better Protosses. HerO and Trap are the only ones with PL experience, so I guess they'll feature as ace quite often.
no not HerO with his terrible nerve. Remember how he played at Yongsan? like dying to slow lings for example
Trap is so good but I dont know if he could move from the usual third man to ace position
Squirtle is the ace imo as hes the most stable of all IM tosses, a good pick also at only 4pts. That said, beside Prime, IM is like the only team without a definite ace player
choices mostly just made on a whim, took me 5 minutes to choose really. sos is a no brainer, sora seems to be obscenely cheap if all the hype about him is to be believed, mvp and dream are old favorites of mine, zest impressed me more than stats in last years proleague, and i'm mostly just hoping roro can get his shit together and play decent starcraft again. anti team was a lot tougher, but ive lost all faith in creator over the last year.. hero and baby were mostly impulsive choices.
Dammit, I'm still considering two things. I'm not convinced about Soulkey over Parting (or Maru/sOs/Rain for that matter). Tough choice for best player, since all those guys are potentially big scorers. Going for Parting or Maru would give me 1 more point for additional change, like picking 2 points guy instead of the 1 pointer, or changing one of the 4 point protosses.
The other thing I was considering was 3 additional points for SKT over IM. SKT with their imba roster look as the clear favorite to win round 1, but picking IM would allow me to swap Yonghwa (or Squirtle/Sora) for 7 point guy, plus IM has really strong lineup as well. Ah, them choices. so hard!
Anti Team seems straightforward enough. Two of those guys aren't in the lineups for week 1 and DRG plays only 1 game in 2 matches and is gonna lose to Parting.
Rain because best Protoss, Sora because dat value, SK Telecom T1 because they're gonna win. Rest because I think they're pretty good for their cost but not too much thought went into it.
Oh and DongRaeGu (aka fake dong) in anti because I think he definitely doesn't deserve 6 points with his current skill.
Guys, don't forget HerO is also playing for IM, I suppose they will rotate the ace between the better Protosses. HerO and Trap are the only ones with PL experience, so I guess they'll feature as ace quite often.
Yea that noob MVP has never played on a rainy day on heavy pitch in PL
On December 28 2013 16:10 FuRong wrote: Like many in this thread, I also committed the cardinal sin of putting Roro on my anti. I swear I'm switching him out though the second he gets rostered to play.
On December 28 2013 10:46 BLinD-RawR wrote: First Rule of FPL, never, ever ever ever ever put roro in your anti team.
yeah all those people are crazy/zealous
Edit: Spoiler the whole thing cuz it was bit 2 long, also added poll!
Poll: RorO in your anti-team?
Fuck Roro. (10)
36%
RorO is gona fuck you boys up. (10)
36%
I have balls. (6)
21%
I'm hesitant and prolly gona remove him as soon as he is fielded. (1)
4%
Dunno what I'm doing but actually I think he is a good player. (1)
4%
28 total votes
Your vote: RorO in your anti-team?
(Vote): Fuck Roro. (Vote): I have balls. (Vote): I'm hesitant and prolly gona remove him as soon as he is fielded. (Vote): RorO is gona fuck you boys up. (Vote): Dunno what I'm doing but actually I think he is a good player.
My first time doing FPL, any opinions/suggestions?
TAiLS, Mvp.. so ballsy especially with that anti-team
Mvp might have been a bad choice, but I'm taking a bit of a gamble since I expect him to be back in good shape now (especially since he's known as the kind of player who can prepare well for his opponents, which is very useful in proleague). Who do you reccommend instead of TAiLS for 2 points? I mainly chose him because he's well known for cheesing out better opponents.
Upon any thought at all, perhaps putting Flash on my anti team was a terrible idea. He takes up points so I can have low point other guys, but he's probably gonna win a few games so it's gonna be bad in the long run.
MAIN TEAM: grabbed a lot of samsung players because roro is going to give them a lot of points. . HerO is the only foreign hope. Maru is small and awesome. Sora cuz who doesn't like a good story
ANTI TEAM: Self explanatory (who the heck is Rain?)
MAIN TEAM: grabbed a lot of samsung players because roro is going to give them a lot of points. . HerO is the only foreign hope. Maru is small and awesome. Sora cuz who doesn't like a good story
ANTI TEAM: Self explanatory (who the heck is Rain?)
Rain won the Hot6ix cup a month ago, and the first SC2 OSL, and 2nd in the second SC2 OSL
People (newcomers or not) : don't forget the value of players/teams for trading depends on the amount of games left to play ! You won't be able to trade your team who played twice for one who played only once... Even if they won both...
MAIN TEAM: grabbed a lot of samsung players because roro is going to give them a lot of points. . HerO is the only foreign hope. Maru is small and awesome. Sora cuz who doesn't like a good story
ANTI TEAM: Self explanatory (who the heck is Rain?)
Rain won the Hot6ix cup a month ago, and the first SC2 OSL, and 2nd in the second SC2 OSL
Some reasoning: Everyone (but eins?) in main team should play and win a bunch! Anti team is pretty random. I suppose these guys will cost me some points but that's the best I could do. Prime because they are underdogs and cost 0 points. Maybe they'll surprise everyone and I win fantasy PL!
MAIN TEAM: grabbed a lot of samsung players because roro is going to give them a lot of points. . HerO is the only foreign hope. Maru is small and awesome. Sora cuz who doesn't like a good story
ANTI TEAM: Self explanatory (who the heck is Rain?)
Rain won the Hot6ix cup a month ago, and the first SC2 OSL, and 2nd in the second SC2 OSL
MAIN TEAM: grabbed a lot of samsung players because roro is going to give them a lot of points. . HerO is the only foreign hope. Maru is small and awesome. Sora cuz who doesn't like a good story
ANTI TEAM: Self explanatory (who the heck is Rain?)
Rain won the Hot6ix cup a month ago, and the first SC2 OSL, and 2nd in the second SC2 OSL
Soulkey was the most consistent player in WCS 2013 and he was part of the top team in the regular season, Woongjin Stars.
HerO is.... HerO. I think he'll perform really well on the main stage.
Creator was a pretty hard bet since I feel like PartinG was a really good choice but rather overvalued. Creator is equally as scary in a roster.
Sora was the runner-up for WCG Korea 2013 and WCG 2013, losing only to PartinG and Soulkey. He is hardly top-tier but he is fucking scary.
Mvp can still shit brilliance as he's shown in WCS Europe. He is hardly a washed up veteran and I believe he'll shine in an environment like Proleague.
TAiLS was once considered a strong player. He seems like a bargain for 2 points.
Jin Air Green Wings is the third-likeliest team (in my opinion) to take Proleague this year. SK Telecom T1 has a killer lineup of mainly ex-Woongjin and ex-ESF players and KT Rolster has Flash God.
This is my first time playing FPL, Basically my main team is full of my favorite players through the years that have performed quite well, at least in the tourney's I actually get to watch. Best of luck everyone!
Sora was the runner-up for WCG Korea 2013 and WCG 2013, losing only to PartinG and Soulkey. He is hardly top-tier but he is fucking scary.
Hnnnngh
Cherry picking a little, here are some of the things Sora has accomplished since late July:
2-0 Fantasy 6-0 Curious 2-0 Bomber 2-0 Gumiho 2-0 Soulkey 2-0 Bbyong 2-1 Life 3-1 Parting 1-3 Soulkey 2-4 Hyun
Also owning a bunch of foreigners and low-tier Koreans. I mean sure you could probably find someone with a better looking kill list, but I'd say that's pretty top-tier.
Sora was the runner-up for WCG Korea 2013 and WCG 2013, losing only to PartinG and Soulkey. He is hardly top-tier but he is fucking scary.
Hnnnngh
Cherry picking a little, here are some of the things Sora has accomplished since late July:
2-0 Fantasy 6-0 Curious 2-0 Bomber 2-0 Gumiho 2-0 Soulkey 2-0 Bbyong 2-1 Life 3-1 Parting 1-3 Soulkey 2-4 Hyun
Also owning a bunch of foreigners and low-tier Koreans. I mean sure you could probably find someone with a better looking kill list, but I'd say that's pretty top-tier.
Idk I think I'm more worried about him picking MVP over bbyong
Sora was the runner-up for WCG Korea 2013 and WCG 2013, losing only to PartinG and Soulkey. He is hardly top-tier but he is fucking scary.
Hnnnngh
Cherry picking a little, here are some of the things Sora has accomplished since late July:
2-0 Fantasy 6-0 Curious 2-0 Bomber 2-0 Gumiho 2-0 Soulkey 2-0 Bbyong 2-1 Life 3-1 Parting 1-3 Soulkey 2-4 Hyun
Also owning a bunch of foreigners and low-tier Koreans. I mean sure you could probably find someone with a better looking kill list, but I'd say that's pretty top-tier.
Idk I think I'm more worried about him picking MVP over bbyong
Must be one of the guys thinking that Mvp's individual league witchcraft works in team leagues. Can't save them all :/
A mixture of players I root for and hope and/or think will do well. At first I was making a try-hard team, but it felt like I was overthinking it so I decided to worry less about "winning" and more about making a team that would be fun for me. The only thing I dislike is that I somehow ended up with 3 IM Protosses. I wanted 2 initially (Squirtle and YongHwa), and I think week 1 is pretty good for them, playing twice against opponents they should deal with easily, but when I had almost finished the team I had a 4 point slot left, and didn't really like any of the players, so I just went with Trap while hoping to trade him away for next week or something like that.
If anyone has a suggestion for a good 4 point player to replace Trap, I'd be all ears. And I might change team again, but wanted to make a team before I go to bed now, so that I don't end sleeping past the deadline by accident without a team.
Any advice is welcome! I'm not so confident about this team.
Maybe I should switch Byul for Savage, and use the extra point to upgrade Yonghwa to TY? I'm not sure how smart it is to choose Yonghwa and Squirtle; both are capable of doing very well, and also failing miserably.
And for the antiteam, is it better to choose Stats or Dongraegu?
I made a slight difference. Still couldn't remove NesTea though but I felt Jin Air Green Wings was a good choice over Incredible Miracle. At the cost of Mvp, aswell.
I'm really thinking Byul is going to shine this season. I think he has shown a lot of promise. I decided to make him my captain over Flash or Rain because I'm a risk taker.
This is Team Liquid's only way to win a Proleague championship. #Believe (which incidentally just came out in theatres)
As Coach Park put it, "We need a miracle. Become the miracle." /orsomesuch
But Byul is IM's only/best Zerg, so he should get some good playing time. HerO is HerO, so I have to support him. Mvp, well, let's just hope he's still practicing and not injured. He's also IM's only/best Terran, so he should get some decent play time, too. Squirtle is Squirtle, and I still remember his epic GSL finals against MVP, particular Games 6 and 7. Dem mothership vortices into mass carrier and high temps vs BC's. Protoss sweetness.
SKT's Rain is Rain, and as he and Parting showed, their in top form coming off the "off-season". Also, the KeSPA system loves Rain, I think, because he seems like such a diligent trainee, so I anticipate he'll get picked as Ace over PartinG a lot (just like last season). I really wanted to pick PartinG, though T.T
CJ's Sora is a legend, or a legend in the making. I believe in him. He's a kingslayer, having beaten Innovation and a bunch of top people in Korean online qualifiers to various tourneys.
Solar, Bbyong and Sora are all underrated and more than worth their cost. herO is going to be fielded pretty much every match (and win most of them) whereas Dark's team SKT is going to win quite a bit, probably netting me a few free points. As for anti, it should be self-explanatory.
I forgot (or repressed) Roro and didn't even see his name, or he would be the leader of my antiteam. Instead I got this:
Flash best compete nearly as well as last year, and as KT Rolster's ace he might just be a solid investment. Im surprised to see IM's MVP on so many anti team lists lol, making me question my faith in him. CJ Entus Sora has had some impressive results recently. KT Rolster Stats is their best toss afaik, and Shine and Pigbaby were somewhat random.
Sorry because he's SKT and SKT is going to crush face continually, no way they don't and they ain't foreigners so no eg-tl.
Dream and Rain are going against each other, but Dream being the only MVP player fielded twice tells me he's probably going to appear a lot in future rounds, one round isn't enough to justify not picking him especially when I can't later.
Also Kal is the best anti-pick ever. Anyone see him play recently? He did pretty bad. He'll lose hopefully a lot, despite his BW prowess.
On December 29 2013 13:09 Pandain wrote: Also Kal is the best anti-pick ever. Anyone see him play recently? He did pretty bad. He'll lose hopefully a lot, despite his BW prowess.
In his preseason match against soO, he actually did quite well up until the muta switch caught him unaware.
In the hybrid Proleague, when he played for ACE where he got little practice, he beat players such as Flash, Innovation and Rain. He definitely has potential, although he has not had much games to show it. Furthermore, with Prime's weak lineup, he may actually get to be the ace of the team.
Kal is a very dangerous player to have on the anti-team, and also a gamble to have on the main.
- Coca has a ridiculously high rating for his cost; CJ's third best player and pretty far above those behind him (not playing this week) - herO very likely to be CJ's ace, and he is actually the 2nd highest rated player in all of Proleague (behind sOs), making his cost of 7 actually a bargain (playing TY this week, definite advantage herO) - KeeN because I need a terran, he has a good history in teamleagues, and his TvP is actually pretty good (playing YongHwa this week, slight advantage YongHwa) - My boy Solar is disgustingly underrated - he is actually the best player Samsung currently has; been a fan of him ever since he came out of nowhere to beat Stephano and Rain last PL (playing sOs this week, slight advantage to sOs) - Sora also crazy underrated, 2nd best player on CJ for only 3 points (playing Flash this week, even match vs Flash) - Squirtle has not the highest rating, but a really good PvP which is a useful talent toi have in PL (playing Terror and Sniper this week, large advantage vs Terror and slight advantage vs Sniper) - SKT because they are really top heavy in a format that just got shortened (and because I could afford them) (Plays MVP and Prime this week, 80% chance of outright win or ace match vs MVP and 90% chance of outright win or ace match vs Prime)
ANTI: - Mvp for anti because he never plays teamleagues, and even when he does he's not that good (no appearances this week) - Shine for anti because he has an awful rating for his cost (there are many players above him in rating from MVP) (Facing Soulkey and Trap this week, fully expect him to lose twice) - Stats for anti because he has an awful rating for his cost (although he is currently in KT's top 4, I imagine he will be rotated out if they start losing - his Aligulac rating is actually only about 10 points higher than Myungsik's.... a 1-pointer) (facing Hydra this week, definite advantage to Hydra's sick vP)
Random Aligulac trivia going by Proleague score ranking: - top 3 are CJ, Jinair, and IM (even without HerO) - if they participated, Startale would be better than any current PL team - Samsung and Prime are worse than Millenium, Mouz, and ROOT and going by all-kill score ranking: - KT is only 7th highest among PL teams; and worse than teams like iG, Yoe Flash Wolves, and Millenium. - Prime is actually worse than the 1-man team of their former player, CM Storm Polt (at least they're better than the other prominent 1-man teams, Alliance and SK Gaming)
- Prime is actually worse than the 1-man team of their former player, CM Storm Polt (at least they're better than the other prominent 1-man teams, Alliance and SK Gaming)
Alliance is a 2-man team: NaNiwa and SortOf! The other one-man team I think is Team Grubby--I am figuring Prime is better than Grubby if they're rated better than MC.
- Samsung and Prime are worse than Millenium, Mouz, and ROOT
Of all the stats you listed, I am shocked that Samsung is rated worse than ROOT. That's the stat that really threw me. I can see Mouz and Millenium being rated high thanks in part to Dear and ForGG... I mean, I like ROOT, and Sage and ViBE and Minigun (and others) are all good players but it's hard to believe that Samsung is worse. If you played the two teams against each other, I am pretty confident Samsung would crush face.
Name says it all. Some young uns and Fanta. (Yes, I know CJ.hero is not a teen. But he's just too awesome to pass up.)
Chose an old big name from each race on my anti. We'll see how it works out. I now have extra incentive for Mvp to do well in WCS EU as to miss Proleague time.
- Prime is actually worse than the 1-man team of their former player, CM Storm Polt (at least they're better than the other prominent 1-man teams, Alliance and SK Gaming)
Alliance is a 2-man team: NaNiwa and SortOf! The other one-man team I think is Team Grubby--I am figuring Prime is better than Grubby if they're rated better than MC.
- Samsung and Prime are worse than Millenium, Mouz, and ROOT
Of all the stats you listed, I am shocked that Samsung is rated worse than ROOT. That's the stat that really threw me. I can see Mouz and Millenium being rated high thanks in part to Dear and ForGG... I mean, I like ROOT, and Sage and ViBE and Minigun (and others) are all good players but it's hard to believe that Samsung is worse. If you played the two teams against each other, I am pretty confident Samsung would crush face.
It's because ROOT players play a lot more tournament games and Samsung faces better opponents. The sample size of games played is not enough to give an accurate rating. Foreigners have a lot of small tournaments to play to boost their ranking. Kespa players have SPL, OSL, and GSL mainly. Some Koreans play in foreign tournaments, but not many.
A nail to the coffin of flash finally slumping T_T Poor Sora he had a promising future why would you do this artosis ? And this is an assurance that soulkey will follow the skzerg line T_T
On December 29 2013 15:15 9-BiT wrote: Wait, we have to stay with our team? Damn I need a restructure.
No, just click " sign up " again.
I meant your in team team, like IM or MVP, you can't trade them?
You can trade teams. But it is usually difficult to find a team with better value to trade for.
The 2 situations where you should trade are when your team performs better than expected at the start of the season and you think it will slump later, or a better team is underperforming and hence has dropped below your team's trading value.
On December 29 2013 15:15 9-BiT wrote: Wait, we have to stay with our team? Damn I need a restructure.
No, just click " sign up " again.
I meant your in team team, like IM or MVP, you can't trade them?
You can trade teams. But it is usually difficult to find a team with better value to trade for.
The 2 situations where you should trade are when your team performs better than expected at the start of the season and you think it will slump later, or a better team is underperforming and hence has dropped below your team's trading value.
That's my plan, I'm grabbing IM because I believe they will take the first two matches, and then I can grab CJ.
On December 29 2013 15:15 9-BiT wrote: Wait, we have to stay with our team? Damn I need a restructure.
No, just click " sign up " again.
I meant your in team team, like IM or MVP, you can't trade them?
You can trade teams. But it is usually difficult to find a team with better value to trade for.
The 2 situations where you should trade are when your team performs better than expected at the start of the season and you think it will slump later, or a better team is underperforming and hence has dropped below your team's trading value.
That's my plan, I'm grabbing IM because I believe they will take the first two matches, and then I can grab CJ.
CJ will probably take their first few matches too, you'd need a pretty big difference in performance to be able to trade for CJ from IM
On December 29 2013 15:15 9-BiT wrote: Wait, we have to stay with our team? Damn I need a restructure.
No, just click " sign up " again.
I meant your in team team, like IM or MVP, you can't trade them?
You can trade teams. But it is usually difficult to find a team with better value to trade for.
The 2 situations where you should trade are when your team performs better than expected at the start of the season and you think it will slump later, or a better team is underperforming and hence has dropped below your team's trading value.
That's my plan, I'm grabbing IM because I believe they will take the first two matches, and then I can grab CJ.
CJ will probably take their first few matches too, you'd need a pretty big difference in performance to be able to trade for CJ from IM
PartinG and herO are two really powerful Protosses - herO will play in every CJ match and probably all their ace matches too, and PartinG has decent Week 1 Matches. I wouldn't mind trading PartinG for Maru later on, since Maru shares ace duties with one other player while PartinG with two.
ByuL is IM's only decent Zerg so he'll see play each week. He and Squirtle have good week 1 matches - I might be open to trading them for TY later on. I really wanted to pick up TY, but he has a hard week 1 match against herO.
Bbyong is a good solid Terran who's done well lately, a steal at 3 points. Sorry is for SKT wins! And I wanted to get CJ, but didn't know who to get. Jin Air seems a solid choice with good ace options.
Anti-team seems to be pretty common picks. I hate to anti ByuN but such is life, he probably won't be playing in Round 1 as it stands anyway.
I didn't really like any of the 5- or 6- pointers, which is why this round of FPL was so hard T_T.
On December 29 2013 15:15 9-BiT wrote: Wait, we have to stay with our team? Damn I need a restructure.
No, just click " sign up " again.
I meant your in team team, like IM or MVP, you can't trade them?
You can trade teams. But it is usually difficult to find a team with better value to trade for.
The 2 situations where you should trade are when your team performs better than expected at the start of the season and you think it will slump later, or a better team is underperforming and hence has dropped below your team's trading value.
That's my plan, I'm grabbing IM because I believe they will take the first two matches, and then I can grab CJ.
CJ will probably take their first few matches too, you'd need a pretty big difference in performance to be able to trade for CJ from IM
Yep, that's right. CJ will only have played one match while IM will have played 2 after the first week, so their values will be multiplied by a factor of 6 and 5 respectively, based on the matches they have remaining. Besides, CJ started with a value of 5 and IM with a value of 3. Unless IM totally rapes their 2 opponents and CJ gets Rolfstomped by KT Roflster, you will never be able to make that trade.
PartinG and herO are two really powerful Protosses - herO will play in every CJ match and probably all their ace matches too, and PartinG has decent Week 1 Matches. I wouldn't mind trading PartinG for Maru later on, since Maru shares ace duties with one other player while PartinG with two.
ByuL is IM's only decent Zerg so he'll see play each week. He and Squirtle have good week 1 matches - I might be open to trading them for TY later on. I really wanted to pick up TY, but he has a hard week 1 match against herO.
Bbyong is a good solid Terran who's done well lately, a steal at 3 points. Sorry is for SKT wins! And I wanted to get CJ, but didn't know who to get. Jin Air seems a solid choice with good ace options.
Anti-team seems to be pretty common picks. I hate to anti ByuN but such is life, he probably won't be playing in Round 1 as it stands anyway.
I didn't really like any of the 5- or 6- pointers, which is why this round of FPL was so hard T_T.
PartinG and herO are two really powerful Protosses - herO will play in every CJ match and probably all their ace matches too, and PartinG has decent Week 1 Matches. I wouldn't mind trading PartinG for Maru later on, since Maru shares ace duties with one other player while PartinG with two.
ByuL is IM's only decent Zerg so he'll see play each week. He and Squirtle have good week 1 matches - I might be open to trading them for TY later on. I really wanted to pick up TY, but he has a hard week 1 match against herO.
Bbyong is a good solid Terran who's done well lately, a steal at 3 points. Sorry is for SKT wins! And I wanted to get CJ, but didn't know who to get. Jin Air seems a solid choice with good ace options.
Anti-team seems to be pretty common picks. I hate to anti ByuN but such is life, he probably won't be playing in Round 1 as it stands anyway.
I didn't really like any of the 5- or 6- pointers, which is why this round of FPL was so hard T_T.
Any comments/criticisms/questions? :D
Way to copy my team, jerk ;D
hardly similar! i daresay there's a lot of people picking like this.
Decided to swap my Anti-Team at the last second... hope it doesn't screw me over. Swapped Super for TY because TY's winrate vs Protoss is atrocious and with all the P's running around I think it should be fairly easy to exploit this for teams. Also swapped Reality for Terminator just cuz. Terminator is probably the worst player on Jin-Air so he hopefully won't play much, even though they are putting him out there in the first match...
On December 29 2013 18:07 opterown wrote: I didn't really like any of the 5- or 6- pointers, which is why this round of FPL was so hard T_T.
Yeah that's how I feel as well, that entire range is a bit undesirable. I also found I didn't really like/trust any of the zerg player, so I just went with Soulkey as team ace/high value player. People have a lot of faith in ByuL, but I'm not sure yet. He is a good player, but his teamleague credentials aren't amazing, so he's a bit of a wildcard.
Oh and I seem to have made a new team in the last second:
Kal is a very risky pick, and my season will depend on how he does. He performed very well in WoL despite being in ACE and having little time to learn a new game. This is indicative of his strong learning potential.
Squirtle is a steal at 4 points for an IM ace. IM is 5th out of 8 teams, so their victories will be likely to go 3-2, where Squirtle will feature.
Byul has easy matches for the first week, and I will probably trade him off.
Flash, Zest, HoeJJa and KT are picked for my KT allin strat.
Byun and RorO are okayish, but are absent for the first 2 matches. I may trade them off if they do feature later.
DongRaeGu is only picked for one out of the 2 starting matches, so he will probably be a fringe player. I expect him to win a few matches, but it's 6 points soaked up for the anti team.
If KT and Kal perform well, I should have a decent chance of winning this season. I got second for season 16 because I did dumb trades (would have got first if I didn't trade) and I missed signups for season 17. So hopefully my bad luck has been used up.
On December 30 2013 02:57 crazyweasel wrote: SHouldnt creator have 2 points? 1 for apearance 2 for win 1 for ace appearece -2 ace loss = 2 yet i have 1 point on him
God damnit, I'm at number five right now and I'm kicking myself for two things:
TheDougler ▲Main Team▲ Pt ▼Anti Team▼ Pt Byul 7 Creator -1 Parting 4 Dream 0 soO 4 Super 0 Squirtle 4 Yonghwa 1 Keen 0 Incredible Miracle 2 Sub-Total: 22 Sub-Total: -1 Rank: #5 Score: 21 Group Place Forum Veterans 2/286 Protoss Users 4/894
A. I just picked Keen because I needed a Terran and I only really need to beat a buddy of mine who's bet against me on this. But now I wish I had fully committed to my strategy:
Pick the team/players playing against MVP and prime, and then drop ESF players among them.
Unfortunately I also accidentally have Byul rather than parting as my captain. He's gonna jump in points this week and would be just a fantastic trade for a big gun that underlerforms this week... Alas
If I had actually paid attention I coulda made a real go of it... Though I guess only one night has passed, but I think my strategy is LEGIT.
On December 30 2013 02:57 crazyweasel wrote: SHouldnt creator have 2 points? 1 for apearance 2 for win 1 for ace appearece -2 ace loss = 2 yet i have 1 point on him
team loss.
Team loss doesn't effect a players score. It was a screw up in the system along with Byul's points pretty sure. (as he was supposed to have +1 roster +2 win +1 team win +1 ace pick +3 ace win)
EDIT: The rules were changed and ace appearances don't give points unless you win